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  • Pick (Overall) TEAM PLAYER POS HT WT SCHOOL STATUS

    20 (52) Browns Veikune, David DE 6'2" 257 Hawaii CUT

    21 (53) Eagles McCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Starting RB

    22 (54) Vikings Loadholt, Phil OL 6'8" 332 Oklahoma Starting RT

    23 (55) Falcons Moore, William S 6'0" 221 Missouri Backup SS

    24 (56) Colts(Dolphins) Moala, Fili DT 6'4" 305 USC 3rd string DT

    25 (57) Ravens Kruger, Paul DE 6'4" 263 Utah Rotating DE

    26 (58) Patriots Vollmer, Sebastian OL 6'7" 312 Houston Starting RT

    27 (59) Panthers Martin, Sherrod S 6'1" 198 Troy Starting FS

    28 (60) Giants Beatty, William OT 6'6" 307 UConn Backup LT

    29 (61) Dolphins (Colts) Smith, Sean CB 6'4" 214 Utah Starting CB

    30 (62) Titans Marks, Sen'Derrick DT 6'2" 306 Auburn Backup DT

    31 (63) Cardinals Brown, Cody DE 6'2" 244 UConn CUT

    32 (64) Broncos(Steelers) Quinn, Richard TE 6'4" 264 UNC Backup TE

    1 (65) Jets (Lions)Greene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Starting RB *OUCH*

    2 (66) Rams Fletcher, Bradley DB 6'0" 196 Iowa Starting CB

    3 (67) Chiefs Magee, Alex DT 6'3" 298 Purdue 3rd string DT

    4 (68) Bears (Seahawks) Gilbert, Jarron DE 6'5" 288 San Jose Backup DE

    5 (69) Cowboys(Browns)Williams, Jason OLB 6'1" 241 W Illinois Backup ILB

    In all I know hindsight is 20/20. But it really hurts to see so many damned starters picked AFTER this moronic reach of a pick. Especially when you see guys like Shonn Greene, Vollmer and Loadholt, all of whom fill areas of need for us. Dammit.

  • Why agonize over it now . New era starting now . Live it bro . 😁

  • Pick (Overall) TEAM PLAYER POS HT WT SCHOOL STATUS

    20 (52) Browns Veikune, David DE 6'2" 257 Hawaii CUT

    21 (53) Eagles McCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Starting RB

    22 (54) Vikings Loadholt, Phil OL 6'8" 332 Oklahoma Starting RT

    23 (55) Falcons Moore, William S 6'0" 221 Missouri Backup SS

    24 (56) Colts(Dolphins) Moala, Fili DT 6'4" 305 USC 3rd string DT

    25 (57) Ravens Kruger, Paul DE 6'4" 263 Utah Rotating DE

    26 (58) Patriots Vollmer, Sebastian OL 6'7" 312 Houston Starting RT

    27 (59) Panthers Martin, Sherrod S 6'1" 198 Troy Starting FS

    28 (60) Giants Beatty, William OT 6'6" 307 UConn Backup LT

    29 (61) Dolphins (Colts) Smith, Sean CB 6'4" 214 Utah Starting CB

    30 (62) Titans Marks, Sen'Derrick DT 6'2" 306 Auburn Backup DT

    31 (63) Cardinals Brown, Cody DE 6'2" 244 UConn CUT

    32 (64) Broncos(Steelers) Quinn, Richard TE 6'4" 264 UNC Backup TE

    1 (65) Jets (Lions)Greene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Starting RB *OUCH*

    2 (66) Rams Fletcher, Bradley DB 6'0" 196 Iowa Starting CB

    3 (67) Chiefs Magee, Alex DT 6'3" 298 Purdue 3rd string DT

    4 (68) Bears (Seahawks) Gilbert, Jarron DE 6'5" 288 San Jose Backup DE

    5 (69) Cowboys(Browns)Williams, Jason OLB 6'1" 241 W Illinois Backup ILB

    In all I know hindsight is 20/20. But it really hurts to see so many damned starters picked AFTER this moronic reach of a pick. Especially when you see guys like Shonn Greene, Vollmer and Loadholt, all of whom fill areas of need for us. Dammit.

    @squintz said:

    Pick (Overall) TEAM PLAYER POS HT WT SCHOOL STATUS

    20 (52) Browns Veikune, David DE 6'2" 257 Hawaii CUT

    21 (53) Eagles McCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Starting RB

    22 (54) Vikings Loadholt, Phil OL 6'8" 332 Oklahoma Starting RT

    23 (55) Falcons Moore, William S 6'0" 221 Missouri Backup SS

    24 (56) Colts(Dolphins) Moala, Fili DT 6'4" 305 USC 3rd string DT

    25 (57) Ravens Kruger, Paul DE 6'4" 263 Utah Rotating DE

    26 (58) Patriots Vollmer, Sebastian OL 6'7" 312 Houston Starting RT

    27 (59) Panthers Martin, Sherrod S 6'1" 198 Troy Starting FS

    28 (60) Giants Beatty, William OT 6'6" 307 UConn Backup LT

    29 (61) Dolphins (Colts) Smith, Sean CB 6'4" 214 Utah Starting CB

    30 (62) Titans Marks, Sen'Derrick DT 6'2" 306 Auburn Backup DT

    31 (63) Cardinals Brown, Cody DE 6'2" 244 UConn CUT

    32 (64) Broncos(Steelers) Quinn, Richard TE 6'4" 264 UNC Backup TE

    1 (65) Jets (Lions)Greene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Starting RB *OUCH*

    2 (66) Rams Fletcher, Bradley DB 6'0" 196 Iowa Starting CB

    3 (67) Chiefs Magee, Alex DT 6'3" 298 Purdue 3rd string DT

    4 (68) Bears (Seahawks) Gilbert, Jarron DE 6'5" 288 San Jose Backup DE

    5 (69) Cowboys(Browns)Williams, Jason OLB 6'1" 241 W Illinois Backup ILB

    In all I know hindsight is 20/20. But it really hurts to see so many damned starters picked AFTER this moronic reach of a pick. Especially when you see guys like Shonn Greene, Vollmer and Loadholt, all of whom fill areas of need for us. Dammit.

    I understand the frustration Squintz but you can go back to any draft and look at the same thing. It's not just us who have missed on past picks. Part of the draft. Like New Era said shrug it off and look forward to what our team has for the future.

  • As you said....hindsight is 20/20. Why cry about it now? You can't hit em all....

  • Actually, you can go back to just about any draft in this new era and find much, much better talent in most rounds. I'm actually suprised there wasn't better talent available. That draft sucked.

    But I agree with others. Let it go. Let this one roll off your back. Something feels different now, we are going to win our share of games this year and it's just the start of things.

  • I know, I know - let it go. But the damn Shonn Greene thing will still piss me off because of all the hype leading up to it that we were targeting him.

    I guess what frustrates me the most is that at the time, we all headscratched and pointed at players like Greene but continued to trust the 'professionals' to do their job. Because they're supposed to know more than we do. But too many times, they don't. They over-analyze and try to justify their capabilities by picking the next diamond-in-the-rough rather than going with the pick that makes too much sense.

    Hell, I haven't even begun to mention passing on Maualuga for a possession receiver from this draft...

  • Plus, I'm an angry guy. Can't you tell by my avatar...?!?! 😆

  • I know, I know - let it go. But the damn Shonn Greene thing will still piss me off because of all the hype leading up to it that we were targeting him.

    I guess what frustrates me the most is that at the time, we all headscratched and pointed at players like Greene but continued to trust the 'professionals' to do their job. Because they're supposed to know more than we do. But too many times, they don't. They over-analyze and try to justify their capabilities by picking the next diamond-in-the-rough rather than going with the pick that makes too much sense.

    Hell, I haven't even begun to mention passing on Maualuga for a possession receiver from this draft...

    @squintz said:

    I know, I know - let it go. But the damn Shonn Greene thing will still piss me off because of all the hype leading up to it that we were targeting him.

    I guess what frustrates me the most is that at the time, we all headscratched and pointed at players like Greene but continued to trust the 'professionals' to do their job. Because they're supposed to know more than we do. But too many times, they don't. They over-analyze and try to justify their capabilities by picking the next diamond-in-the-rough rather than going with the pick that makes too much sense.

    Hell, I haven't even begun to mention passing on Maualuga for a possession receiver from this draft...

    You can drive yourself nuts looking at who we passed on- every team makes mistakes- the bottom feeders just make more mistakes than the top teams..... Every freaking team in the league passed on Joe Montana.

    Get your barf bag handy- here's why the Browns have stunk since 1999. What might have been... IF the powers in Berea had a crystal ball.

    Couch- Edgerrin James, Torrey Holt

    Courtney Brown- Jamal Lewis, Brian Urlacher

    Gerrard Warren (this one really hurts)- Ladanian Tomlinson or Richard Seymour

    Willie (Smokin') Green- Ed Reed

    Jeff Faine- Asomugha

    Win-slow- or The rapist.... Close call

    Edwards- or Merriman, Demarcus Ware, or Antron Rolle- I take Ware

    Wimbley- should have stayed pat and taken Ngata- or traded down for Nick Mangold

    Joe Thomas- first gold star. BQ cost us Tony Ugoh, and a shot at Clady or Flacco the following year.....

    Alex Mack- Percy Harvin.... No brainer if Mangold or Faine were on the roster....