You brahs aware the Bucs are gonna stomp that ass out on Sunday?
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No, no, no. That was the guy they got rid of: Braylon Edwards. It just goes to show you how much this team thought of Edwards that they were willing to ditch his stones of hands and leave the receiving corps in the hands of rookies like MoMass and Robo.
No, you really do have it all bassackwards. It was the confidence of the young WRs that the QBs could not hit when they were open. They are both seemingly doing quite well with Jake throwing to them
.It doesn't surprise me that the Brown organization would take away all the playmakers(K2, and Braylon) you had on offense and go with unproven, inadequate WR's and then blame the QB's and then turn around and dump them for a washed up old QB. That is business as usual in Cleavland.
It only surprises me that the fans are actually buying that garbage.
It doesn't surprise me that the Brown organization would take away all the playmakers(K2, and Braylon) you had on offense and go with unproven, inadequate WR's and then blame the QB's and then turn around and dump them for a washed up old QB. That is business as usual in Cleavland.
It only surprises me that the fans are actually buying that garbage.
Some of us scratched our heads over those moves as well. The problem was that K2 and Braylon were exhibiting bad character skills...and needed a change of scenery to be cured. In other words, like a mule, they needed a 2X4 over the head to get their attention. The trades of them exhibited to them that they were not indispensable like they thought they were. It may perhaps have worked on K2. From all accounts he is keeping his nose clean and playing football. By some accounts it is NOT working with Edwards. He is still dropping passes and running his mouth like a gutter punk.
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lol get real the only thing that is going to get hot down there is the temperature
Somewhere in this 18 page nuthugging fest you guys have put on for me, I put up the games I thought we could win and the games I thought we'd lose. It came up to about 7-9 wins.
The cupcake teams we play are as follows...
Seahawks
Redskins
Rams
Cardinals (not a cupcake, but not shit either without Warner)
Lions
Browns
That's 6 games right there that we should win.
Division games are never guaranteed one way or another (unless .. I guess... if you're the Browns) and our division almost always splits games.
So is 7 wins really that far fetched? Take off your Brown colored glasses before you answer that one
BucsNBiceps said:
Somewhere in this 18 page nuthugging fest you guys have put on for me, I put up the games I thought we could win and the games I thought we'd lose. It came up to about 7-9 wins.The cupcake teams we play are as follows...
Seahawks
Redskins
Rams
Cardinals (not a cupcake, but not shit either without Warner)
Lions
Browns
That's 6 games right there that we should win.
Division games are never guaranteed one way or another (unless .. I guess... if you're the Browns) and our division almost always splits games.
So is 7 wins really that far fetched? Take off your Brown colored glasses before you answer that one
Sure, you COULD (not should) win those games. Like as not though you WILL win maybe half of them. Remember, those other teams are counting the Bucs as a win for them as well.
So, as I see it, that puts you again at 3, maybe 4 wins for the year....and saying Hello to Roger Goodell in April.
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is this really going to make it to 20 pages? so pointless
You should be thanking the all mighty Bicep. For it has given this board LIFE.
BucsNBiceps said:
You should be thanking the all mighty Bicep. For it has given this board LIFE.Trust me, you are a hack amateur compared to what goes on here during Steeler and Ravens weeks.
I will give you this much: Like Nathan Lane in The Birdcage you are definitely a source of amusement.
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You're a tool.
And that's not worthless name calling. That's just an observation.
The Browns won't win 70-0, the Bucs won't win 68-2.
But, in all honesty, I'd be surprised if we weren't the favorite. No matter what your opinion, fact of the matter is that Jake Delhomme will be looked at as a superior QB than Josh Freeman for a while. I'm not showing bias, I'm stating fact. Delhomme has been to a Super Bowl, has had back to back to back 3,000 yard passing seasons, holds an NFL Super Bowl record, is the all time passing leader for the Panthers, and has thrown for at least 3,000 yards every season he's started 16 games. What Josh Freeman needs to do is put together a winning season to even be considered as a superior QB.
Once again, none of that is bias. I'm not a big Jake fan. I'm just stating the obvious.
And save all that "blah, blah, he threw 18 INTs last season" bullshit for someone who gives a shit. One instance does not make it a habit. It's just the exception that proves the rule.
We'll see what happens on Sunday. It's not like we have any influence on the situation anyway.
Put down your walker and stop living in the past, bro. Last year Freeman's QB rating was higher than Delhomme's.
Put down your walker and stop living in the past, bro. Last year Freeman's QB rating was higher than Delhomme's.
Unfortunatly, I actually believe that this signature video depicts the sort of character you possess. Please tell us that would be a wrong perception.
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FWIW, I've seen every one of Quinn and Anderson's plays as Browns. Jake has looked like Joe Freaking Montana by comparison in the preseason.
Quinn is doing so great in Denver he's holding the clipboard for Kyle Orton- and the Cardinal fans are about to find out what Browns fans have known for years- DA is supremely inaccurate with that cannon attached to his body. Like a career 52% completion rate.
I guess 2007 was just a fluke for Anderson. 29td's and 19int's. Not bad for a scrub. The kid was on Sportscenter every weekend. I thought he was one of the best QB's around. You all must be right and I'm wrong. Having playmakers doesn't matter for a QB.....
Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Kellen Winslow 82 1,106 13.5 49 5
Braylon Edwards 80 1,289 16.1 78 16
Joe Jurevicius 50 614 12.3 50 3
You are right, I concede. You are much better off with Robiskie and Massoquoi, and whoever the other scrub WR you have is. After all, you are Browns fans....
I'd be willing to bet you that DAnderson has a MUCH better year in Arizona with some actual playmakers to work with then ya boyeeeee' Delhomme with the WR's you have. Where are all the threads calling your sorry GM out for not acquiring any good WR talent? Look at how he left Seattle. Your winning combo is Jake Delhomme and Mike Holmgren? And the same sorry WR's from last year that couldn't get open? And you fans are buying into this? Or just stuck with it?
I guess 2007 was just a fluke for Anderson. 29td's and 19int's. Not bad for a scrub. The kid was on Sportscenter every weekend. I thought he was one of the best QB's around. You all must be right and I'm wrong. Having playmakers doesn't matter for a QB.....
Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Kellen Winslow 82 1,106 13.5 49 5
Braylon Edwards 80 1,289 16.1 78 16
Joe Jurevicius 50 614 12.3 50 3
You are right, I concede. You are much better off with Robiskie and Massoquoi, and whoever the other scrub WR you have is. After all, you are Browns fans....
I'd be willing to bet you that DAnderson has a MUCH better year in Arizona with some actual playmakers to work with then ya boyeeeee' Delhomme with the WR's you have. Where are all the threads calling your sorry GM out for not acquiring any good WR talent? Look at how he left Seattle. Your winning combo is Jake Delhomme and Mike Holmgren? And the same sorry WR's from last year that couldn't get open? And you fans are buying into this? Or just stuck with it?
OK, but check this out: You are a guy who is judging DA on his stats and his highlights. We are judging him on seeing every throw of every game he has played. And trust us when we tell you that we were all ready to buy into the DA miracle arm. And for your Information, it was when DA still had K2 and Edwards to throw to that we realized that he just couldn't hit them as targets. Both of those guys were still here in 2008 when DA stunk up the joint.
No, sorry, but, again, you interlopers get things all bass ackwards again. DA can hit a fly on target 25 yards down the sideline sometimes, but he can't hit a wide open Tight End in the end zone who is 5 yards away from him. In the one preseason game I saw him play for the Cards he did exactly that....hit ropes down the field, but threw ducks to open receivers. It had nothing to do with the WRs around him. Here is betting dollars to donuts that Larry Fitzgerald is going to get seriously frustrated by DA.
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mikeyP72 said:
How confident are you in your statements, using inflated stats from THREE SEASONS ago as your basis for trashing on Delhomme and our WRs?The only reason I used the stats from three seasons ago is because that is the last time you had any playmakers on offense. I can put last years stats up here if you want me to, but I think you all know how crappy they were. You are missing the point, which is understandable, you are a Browns fan. But the point is that your offense has no weapons. You threw away DAnderson, and BQuinn for Jake Delhomme, and you have the same junk at WR again this year. Do you think this is a solution to your problems?
DANderson: He was great in 07' when he had playmakers. Now that your WR's suck, so does he? Okay. Great evaluation, Browns fan.
BQuinn: How do you know what you had with BQuinn? There is no way he could be evaluated on a team with zero legit WR's.........but you all decided he sucked, anyway. He never had a chance to develop at the NFL level, because he never had any legit NFL targets to throw to. It was nice of you all to trade him so he at least has a chance to develop.
Maybe my thoery is flawed. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe playmakers DON'T matter. Maybe the Browns are really going to turn the corner with Delhomme, Massoquoi, and Robiskie. Google Tom Brady's stats before Randy Moss got there and after. It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out. Then again, I wasn't expecting anything ingenius out of this crop of losers.
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BucsNBiceps said:
LOL... best post since I've gotten here.You truly are the definition of "class act."
It figures that you would be impressed by vulgar street talk. The thing is, there have been so many times that you have been made into grated cheese, but you just didn't know it because the bifurcation of your soul went right over your head.
It figures that you would be impressed by vulgar street talk. The thing is, there have been so many times that you have been made into grated cheese, but you just didn't know it because the bifurcation of your soul went right over your head.
LOL what are you even TALKING about?
Using big words and trying to outwit me is not any way of effectively earning The Bicep's respect. Take note from your buddy Tim Couch Pulls Out. He figured out what respect is all about. Until then, I'm gonna keep hammer curlin' all you fools for the next 21 pages.
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mikeyP72 said:
How confident are you in your statements, using inflated stats from THREE SEASONS ago as your basis for trashing on Delhomme and our WRs?The only reason I used the stats from three seasons ago is because that is the last time you had any playmakers on offense. I can put last years stats up here if you want me to, but I think you all know how crappy they were. You are missing the point, which is understandable, you are a Browns fan. But the point is that your offense has no weapons. You threw away DAnderson, and BQuinn for Jake Delhomme, and you have the same junk at WR again this year. Do you think this is a solution to your problems?
DANderson: He was great in 07' when he had playmakers. Now that your WR's suck, so does he? Okay. Great evaluation, Browns fan.
BQuinn: How do you know what you had with BQuinn? There is no way he could be evaluated on a team with zero legit WR's.........but you all decided he sucked, anyway. He never had a chance to develop at the NFL level, because he never had any legit NFL targets to throw to. It was nice of you all to trade him so he at least has a chance to develop.
Maybe my thoery is flawed. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe playmakers DON'T matter. Maybe the Browns are really going to turn the corner with Delhomme, Massoquoi, and Robiskie. Google Tom Brady's stats before Randy Moss got there and after. It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out. Then again, I wasn't expecting anything ingenius out of this crop of losers.
The only reason I used the stats from three seasons ago is because that is the last time you had any playmakers on offense. I can put last years stats up here if you want me to, but I think you all know how crappy they were. You are missing the point, which is understandable, you are a Browns fan. But the point is that your offense has no weapons. You threw away DAnderson, and BQuinn for Jake Delhomme, and you have the same junk at WR again this year. Do you think this is a solution to your problems?
DANderson: He was great in 07' when he had playmakers. Now that your WR's suck, so does he? Okay. Great evaluation, Browns fan.
BQuinn: How do you know what you had with BQuinn? There is no way he could be evaluated on a team with zero legit WR's.........but you all decided he sucked, anyway. He never had a chance to develop at the NFL level, because he never had any legit NFL targets to throw to. It was nice of you all to trade him so he at least has a chance to develop.
Maybe my thoery is flawed. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe playmakers DON'T matter. Maybe the Browns are really going to turn the corner with Delhomme, Massoquoi, and Robiskie. Google Tom Brady's stats before Randy Moss got there and after. It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out. Then again, I wasn't expecting anything ingenius out of this crop of losers.
Coincidentally... 3 years ago was also the last time Delhomme did anything significant against the Bucs.
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haha i have never lifted weights cause i dont like looking at men? Is that ur excuse for staring at men?? That was honestly week, you are probably 110 soaking wet and couldnt beat urself out of a wet paper bag..
i take pride in being able to name all nfl teams douche..
I feel sorry for ur momma!!
It's spelled "weak"
That was about the most I could understand out of that post.
By the way. I'm 5'11" and 200 lbs.
Come at me.
BucsNBiceps said:
It's spelled "weak"That was about the most I could understand out of that post.
By the way. I'm 5'11" and 200 lbs.
Come at me.
Ohhhhh.....5'11"; 200lbs. So that means you're one of those guys that grows muscle to compensate for being "weak" in other areas that don't consist of muscle. Now I get the hostility against a fan base that has no rivalry to draw from. You're just mad at god man, don't take it out on us.
We'll see what happens Sunday but let's be honest. Nobody knows what's going to happen with either team this year. All I know for sure is that Raheem looks terrified on that sideline and those players don't respect him. So good luck.
"Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin -
I guess 2007 was just a fluke for Anderson. 29td's and 19int's. Not bad for a scrub. The kid was on Sportscenter every weekend. I thought he was one of the best QB's around. You all must be right and I'm wrong. Having playmakers doesn't matter for a QB.....
Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Kellen Winslow 82 1,106 13.5 49 5
Braylon Edwards 80 1,289 16.1 78 16
Joe Jurevicius 50 614 12.3 50 3
You are right, I concede. You are much better off with Robiskie and Massoquoi, and whoever the other scrub WR you have is. After all, you are Browns fans....
I'd be willing to bet you that DAnderson has a MUCH better year in Arizona with some actual playmakers to work with then ya boyeeeee' Delhomme with the WR's you have. Where are all the threads calling your sorry GM out for not acquiring any good WR talent? Look at how he left Seattle. Your winning combo is Jake Delhomme and Mike Holmgren? And the same sorry WR's from last year that couldn't get open? And you fans are buying into this? Or just stuck with it?
OK, but check this out: You are a guy who is judging DA on his stats and his highlights. We are judging him on seeing every throw of every game he has played. And trust us when we tell you that we were all ready to buy into the DA miracle arm. And for your Information, it was when DA still had K2 and Edwards to throw to that we realized that he just couldn't hit them as targets. Both of those guys were still here in 2008 when DA stunk up the joint.
No, sorry, but, again, you interlopers get things all bass ackwards again. DA can hit a fly on target 25 yards down the sideline sometimes, but he can't hit a wide open Tight End in the end zone who is 5 yards away from him. In the one preseason game I saw him play for the Cards he did exactly that....hit ropes down the field, but threw ducks to open receivers. It had nothing to do with the WRs around him. Here is betting dollars to donuts that Larry Fitzgerald is going to get seriously frustrated by DA.
OK, but check this out: You are a guy who is judging DA on his stats and his highlights. We are judging him on seeing every throw of every game he has played. And trust us when we tell you that we were all ready to buy into the DA miracle arm. And for your Information, it was when DA still had K2 and Edwards to throw to that we realized that he just couldn't hit them as targets. Both of those guys were still here in 2008 when DA stunk up the joint.
No, sorry, but, again, you interlopers get things all bass ackwards again. DA can hit a fly on target 25 yards down the sideline sometimes, but he can't hit a wide open Tight End in the end zone who is 5 yards away from him. In the one preseason game I saw him play for the Cards he did exactly that....hit ropes down the field, but threw ducks to open receivers. It had nothing to do with the WRs around him. Here is betting dollars to donuts that Larry Fitzgerald is going to get seriously frustrated by DA
.Or Fitzgerald is going to get seriously killed- one of DA's weakness is not anticipating the coverage and leading his receiver right into a saftey and getting the guy's head taken off. And RE: KW2 and Bray-Bray, how many times did we see the aforementioned bail Anderson out with circus catches on really poorly thrown balls? Remember the one handed reverse 180 Edwards did for a TD when the ball was 4 yards off target?
RE: the breakout year- DA's stats tailed off dramatically toward the end of that season- when teams figured out take away the deep ball and make Derek beat you with the short stuff- which he can't do to save his life. Plus Anderson ain't exactly the most mobile guy out there- in his wonder year, he had bulletproof protection.
I lost track how many times I saw DA throw the ball 10' over the head of, 2 yards into the dirt in front of, or 6' behind a RB on a simple swing pass. And even on the rare occasions it was on target it frequently got dropped, because Anderson threw it hard enough to go through a car wash and come out dry on the other side- on a baseball analogy DA is a 100mph fastball pitcher with no changeup- and struggles mightily with location.
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BucsNBiceps said:
It's spelled "weak"That was about the most I could understand out of that post.
By the way. I'm 5'11" and 200 lbs.
Come at me.
Ohhhhh.....5'11"; 200lbs. So that means you're one of those guys that grows muscle to compensate for being "weak" in other areas that don't consist of muscle. Now I get the hostility against a fan base that has no rivalry to draw from. You're just mad at god man, don't take it out on us.
We'll see what happens Sunday but let's be honest. Nobody knows what's going to happen with either team this year. All I know for sure is that Raheem looks terrified on that sideline and those players don't respect him. So good luck.
Ohhhhh.....5'11"; 200lbs. So that means you're one of those guys that grows muscle to compensate for being "weak" in other areas that don't consist of muscle. Now I get the hostility against a fan base that has no rivalry to draw from. You're just mad at god man, don't take it out on us.
We'll see what happens Sunday but let's be honest. Nobody knows what's going to happen with either team this year. All I know for sure is that Raheem looks terrified on that sideline and those players don't respect him. So good luck.
You guys really know how to hit a guy hard don't you?
Anyway.... Do some research son. From Kellen Winslow's mouth just the other day "We all love Raheem."
No respect my ass. You think this team doesn't want to play for Raheem? Is that why we had success at the end of 09 when the season was clearly over? Is that why the team kept clawing and fighting and beat the eventual Super Bowl champs ON THE ROAD? Is that why they beat a Seattle team that was supposed to be "better" than them on the WEST COAST... A place where the Bucs RARELY have success? Is that why they lost to the Falcons on a last minute touchdown drive IN ATLANTA??? How about when they took down the all mighty Packers? Did the players "not respect Raheem" enough then to help him get his first win?
If you did any homework at all you'd know these players are 200% behind Raheem. Get a clue. You're making the dude that told me he'd shoot me look intelligent.
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It figures that you would be impressed by vulgar street talk. The thing is, there have been so many times that you have been made into grated cheese, but you just didn't know it because the bifurcation of your soul went right over your head.
LOL what are you even TALKING about?
Using big words and trying to outwit me is not any way of effectively earning The Bicep's respect. Take note from your buddy Tim Couch Pulls Out. He figured out what respect is all about. Until then, I'm gonna keep hammer curlin' all you fools for the next 21 pages.
BucsNBiceps said:
LOL what are you even TALKING about?Like I said, it is all over your head.
Using big words and trying to outwit me is not any way of effectively earning The Bicep's respect.
Yes, I get it that by using big words and trying to outwit you is tantamount to trying to explain to a fish that he has been hook, scaled and fried for consumption. In the words of Gertrude Stein, "there is no there, there between your ears?
Take note from your buddy Tim Couch Pulls Out. He figured out what respect is all about. Until then, I'm gonna keep hammer curlin' all you fools for the next 21 pages.
Uhm, I gave volumes of facts, data, statistics etc. etc. You ignored them because they disagreed with your delusions. So, tell me why I should bother further?
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Ohhhhh.....5'11"; 200lbs. So that means you're one of those guys that grows muscle to compensate for being "weak" in other areas that don't consist of muscle. Now I get the hostility against a fan base that has no rivalry to draw from. You're just mad at god man, don't take it out on us.
We'll see what happens Sunday but let's be honest. Nobody knows what's going to happen with either team this year. All I know for sure is that Raheem looks terrified on that sideline and those players don't respect him. So good luck.
You guys really know how to hit a guy hard don't you?
Anyway.... Do some research son. From Kellen Winslow's mouth just the other day "We all love Raheem."
No respect my ass. You think this team doesn't want to play for Raheem? Is that why we had success at the end of 09 when the season was clearly over? Is that why the team kept clawing and fighting and beat the eventual Super Bowl champs ON THE ROAD? Is that why they beat a Seattle team that was supposed to be "better" than them on the WEST COAST... A place where the Bucs RARELY have success? Is that why they lost to the Falcons on a last minute touchdown drive IN ATLANTA??? How about when they took down the all mighty Packers? Did the players "not respect Raheem" enough then to help him get his first win?
If you did any homework at all you'd know these players are 200% behind Raheem. Get a clue. You're making the dude that told me he'd shoot me look intelligent.
BucsNBiceps said:
You guys really know how to hit a guy hard don't you?Anyway.... Do some research son. From Kellen Winslow's mouth just the other day "We all love Raheem."
No respect my ass. You think this team doesn't want to play for Raheem? Is that why we had success at the end of 09 when the season was clearly over? Is that why the team kept clawing and fighting and beat the eventual Super Bowl champs ON THE ROAD? Is that why they beat a Seattle team that was supposed to be "better" than them on the WEST COAST... A place where the Bucs RARELY have success? Is that why they lost to the Falcons on a last minute touchdown drive IN ATLANTA??? How about when they took down the all mighty Packers? Did the players "not respect Raheem" enough then to help him get his first win?
If you did any homework at all you'd know these players are 200% behind Raheem. Get a clue. You're making the dude that told me he'd shoot me look intelligent.
OK, so the Bucs all love and respect their coach. So what? Been there, done that. Everybody loved and respected Romeo Crennell. Didn't keep him from losing his job when he couldn't win.
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BucsNBiceps said:
You guys really know how to hit a guy hard don't you?Anyway.... Do some research son. From Kellen Winslow's mouth just the other day "We all love Raheem."
No respect my ass. You think this team doesn't want to play for Raheem? Is that why we had success at the end of 09 when the season was clearly over? Is that why the team kept clawing and fighting and beat the eventual Super Bowl champs ON THE ROAD? Is that why they beat a Seattle team that was supposed to be "better" than them on the WEST COAST... A place where the Bucs RARELY have success? Is that why they lost to the Falcons on a last minute touchdown drive IN ATLANTA??? How about when they took down the all mighty Packers? Did the players "not respect Raheem" enough then to help him get his first win?
If you did any homework at all you'd know these players are 200% behind Raheem. Get a clue. You're making the dude that told me he'd shoot me look intelligent.
OK, so the Bucs all love and respect their coach. So what? Been there, done that. Everybody loved and respected Romeo Crennell. Didn't keep him from losing his job when he couldn't win.
OK, so the Bucs all love and respect their coach. So what? Been there, done that. Everybody loved and respected Romeo Crennell. Didn't keep him from losing his job when he couldn't win.
I wasn't saying anything will come from it. I was just disproving his stupid claim.
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OK, so the Bucs all love and respect their coach. So what? Been there, done that. Everybody loved and respected Romeo Crennell. Didn't keep him from losing his job when he couldn't win.
I wasn't saying anything will come from it. I was just disproving his stupid claim.
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BucsNBiceps said:
I wasn't saying anything will come from it. I was just disproving his stupid claim.Taken!
Seats taken!
Can't sit here!
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You miss gruden huh? He was the best coach, they should have never fired him.
Speaking of credibility flying out the window...
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