the sky is falling
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It doesn't have anything to do with the Browns "not playing hard" the second half. That's ridiculous.
The Browns inspire me with their intensity. And we now have a SECONDARY that can kick arse.
The offense needs a RT, at least one game breaking deep threat (Rnd one?) and a pass rushing force.
Like has been said before, the Browns are on their way, ... you can't do it all it two drafts.
You know, the list of "must haves" in previous drafts... has been cut to a small number of positions. I'd say
WR, pass rushing LB/DE, and RT, ... QB in 2012. Think about it. The list used to be most of the positions on the team.
But I don't know if Daboll makes the team next year. I think he's rolling dice to see which play to call now. @@
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The problem is mostly attitude. I'd like to see some of these coaches grabbing a guy by their facemask and getting in their grill. Not accept losing, suit-up in pads on Monday mornings for additional reps until we start leaving it all on the field on Sundays. I am so eff'ing tired of seeing the head coach walk off with the howdy doody 'Aww Shucks' type look on their face. I want to see him meet someone at the entrance of the tunnel and rip someone a new asshole into the locker room then have to be restrained from kicking the next players ass.
How do you think Cowher did it? You think the guy was smart, or gave off energy?
Never accept losing, ever.
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The problem is mostly attitude. I'd like to see some of these coaches grabbing a guy by their facemask and getting in their grill. Not accept losing, suit-up in pads on Monday mornings for additional reps until we start leaving it all on the field on Sundays. I am so eff'ing tired of seeing the head coach walk off with the howdy doody 'Aww Shucks' type look on their face. I want to see him meet someone at the entrance of the tunnel and rip someone a new asshole into the locker room then have to be restrained from kicking the next players ass.
How do you think Cowher did it? You think the guy was smart, or gave off energy?
Never accept losing, ever.
The problem is mostly attitude. I'd like to see some of these coaches grabbing a guy by their facemask and getting in their grill. Not accept losing, suit-up in pads on Monday mornings for additional reps until we start leaving it all on the field on Sundays. I am so eff'ing tired of seeing the head coach walk off with the howdy doody 'Aww Shucks' type look on their face. I want to see him meet someone at the entrance of the tunnel and rip someone a new asshole into the locker room then have to be restrained from kicking the next players ass.
How do you think Cowher did it? You think the guy was smart, or gave off energy?
Never accept losing, ever.
DAMN STRAIGHT!!! PREACH IT BRUTHA!!!
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Good thread. I waited until I cooled off after another loss to post.
I have read & heard of folks hollering for the firing of Mangini, Dabol, & even Holmgren. WHY??? These folks actually ACCEPTED the challenge of trying to right a capsized & sinking ship. Other regimes built NOTHING through the draft, & we had absolutely NO continuity. Now we have a FO & Coaches with a purpose & a plan who are moving toward reversing a 10 year negative progress. I defy ANYONE to say our defensive backfield is not DRASTICALLY improved. We have further improved our o-line & linebackers, & our QBs are better than before. I may catch flack for this, but the offensive play calling HAS shown improvement, but it still must be EXECUTED! Our wide receivers are still developing & learning how to get separation & create better opportunities for the QBs.
We need more play makers & from all indications, this FO will get them, but not in a single year.
I know it's hard to remain patient, but I have seen more progress already this year (even with the 0-2 start) than any year since the Browns are back.
Hell, I'm darn near 64 years old & I can wait when I see positive moves & gains. I had stated before that, regardless of record, I wanted to see improved play, which I have seen. Let's be positive & support our Browns.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm in this for the duration.
Mike
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It doesn't have anything to do with the Browns "not playing hard" the second half. That's ridiculous.
The Browns inspire me with their intensity. And we now have a SECONDARY that can kick arse.
The offense needs a RT, at least one game breaking deep threat (Rnd one?) and a pass rushing force.
Like has been said before, the Browns are on their way, ... you can't do it all it two drafts.
You know, the list of "must haves" in previous drafts... has been cut to a small number of positions. I'd say
WR, pass rushing LB/DE, and RT, ... QB in 2012. Think about it. The list used to be most of the positions on the team.
But I don't know if Daboll makes the team next year. I think he's rolling dice to see which play to call now. @@
It doesn't have anything to do with the Browns "not playing hard" the second half. That's ridiculous.
scoreless in both second halves of the first two games. it's either not playing hard or not making correct adjustments or the opposing team makes adjustments and we play not to lose with no adjustments. 4 game win streak at the end of last year guys were playing for their jobs FOR 60 MINUTES!!!!!!! do you really see that now?
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ive only been a member here for about 2 weeks but i have noticed that everytime something bad happens everyone thinks the sky is falling. i know exactly how it feels since the saints have always sucked
but listening to scott fujita talk who was among the fan favorites in new orleans and will always be a true saint despite only playing there a few seasons, he says the browns are building a winning team. he said the browns are doing everything they can to get better and that the atmosphere in the front office seems a lot like it was in '06 for him in new orleans
i dont think anybody really has the answer to what the problems are in cleveland even tho everyone clearly has an opinion of whats wrong. i think the biggest issue is that Cleveland is such a harsh city to play in. worse than new york. worse than philly. worse than LA. cleveland teams have a history of listening to the extreme fans and trying to win it all in one season
the browns are historically the most successful pro football franchise despite their struggles in the NFL. my best medicine from an outsiders point of view is to support the team. just because they lose a game doesnt mean there arent positives that come out of it.
seneca wallace outperformed a pro bowl caliber player in matt cassel. ben watson is emerging as one of the leading TEs in the league and Evan Moore looks to have a ton of potential. Cribbs is still the best return man in the league and because teams are so scared of him, the browns always end up with solid field position. vickers is one of the best blocking fullbacks in the league and joe thomas is easily the best tackle in the league. matt roth has a pretty good game and TJ Ward looks like a truck out there and the defense seems to be clicking together.
ive only been a member here for about 2 weeks but i have noticed that everytime something bad happens everyone thinks the sky is falling. i know exactly how it feels since the saints have always sucked
but listening to scott fujita talk who was among the fan favorites in new orleans and will always be a true saint despite only playing there a few seasons, he says the browns are building a winning team. he said the browns are doing everything they can to get better and that the atmosphere in the front office seems a lot like it was in '06 for him in new orleans
i dont think anybody really has the answer to what the problems are in cleveland even tho everyone clearly has an opinion of whats wrong. i think the biggest issue is that Cleveland is such a harsh city to play in. worse than new york. worse than philly. worse than LA. cleveland teams have a history of listening to the extreme fans and trying to win it all in one season
the browns are historically the most successful pro football franchise despite their struggles in the NFL. my best medicine from an outsiders point of view is to support the team. just because they lose a game doesnt mean there arent positives that come out of it.
seneca wallace outperformed a pro bowl caliber player in matt cassel. ben watson is emerging as one of the leading TEs in the league and Evan Moore looks to have a ton of potential. Cribbs is still the best return man in the league and because teams are so scared of him, the browns always end up with solid field position. vickers is one of the best blocking fullbacks in the league and joe thomas is easily the best tackle in the league. matt roth has a pretty good game and TJ Ward looks like a truck out there and the defense seems to be clicking together.
Maybe I misread what you said, but did I just read Matt Cassell is a probowl calliber player??? HAHA!
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ive only been a member here for about 2 weeks but i have noticed that everytime something bad happens everyone thinks the sky is falling. i know exactly how it feels since the saints have always sucked
but listening to scott fujita talk who was among the fan favorites in new orleans and will always be a true saint despite only playing there a few seasons, he says the browns are building a winning team. he said the browns are doing everything they can to get better and that the atmosphere in the front office seems a lot like it was in '06 for him in new orleans
i dont think anybody really has the answer to what the problems are in cleveland even tho everyone clearly has an opinion of whats wrong. i think the biggest issue is that Cleveland is such a harsh city to play in. worse than new york. worse than philly. worse than LA. cleveland teams have a history of listening to the extreme fans and trying to win it all in one season
the browns are historically the most successful pro football franchise despite their struggles in the NFL. my best medicine from an outsiders point of view is to support the team. just because they lose a game doesnt mean there arent positives that come out of it.
seneca wallace outperformed a pro bowl caliber player in matt cassel. ben watson is emerging as one of the leading TEs in the league and Evan Moore looks to have a ton of potential. Cribbs is still the best return man in the league and because teams are so scared of him, the browns always end up with solid field position. vickers is one of the best blocking fullbacks in the league and joe thomas is easily the best tackle in the league. matt roth has a pretty good game and TJ Ward looks like a truck out there and the defense seems to be clicking together.
Maybe I misread what you said, but did I just read Matt Cassell is a probowl calliber player??? HAHA!
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Preseason he was getting some hype. But he's definitely played like garbage this year so far.
Agreed... I have been very unimpressed with his time in KC thus far.
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ive only been a member here for about 2 weeks but i have noticed that everytime something bad happens everyone thinks the sky is falling. i know exactly how it feels since the saints have always sucked
but listening to scott fujita talk who was among the fan favorites in new orleans and will always be a true saint despite only playing there a few seasons, he says the browns are building a winning team. he said the browns are doing everything they can to get better and that the atmosphere in the front office seems a lot like it was in '06 for him in new orleans
i dont think anybody really has the answer to what the problems are in cleveland even tho everyone clearly has an opinion of whats wrong. i think the biggest issue is that Cleveland is such a harsh city to play in. worse than new york. worse than philly. worse than LA. cleveland teams have a history of listening to the extreme fans and trying to win it all in one season
the browns are historically the most successful pro football franchise despite their struggles in the NFL. my best medicine from an outsiders point of view is to support the team. just because they lose a game doesnt mean there arent positives that come out of it.
seneca wallace outperformed a pro bowl caliber player in matt cassel. ben watson is emerging as one of the leading TEs in the league and Evan Moore looks to have a ton of potential. Cribbs is still the best return man in the league and because teams are so scared of him, the browns always end up with solid field position. vickers is one of the best blocking fullbacks in the league and joe thomas is easily the best tackle in the league. matt roth has a pretty good game and TJ Ward looks like a truck out there and the defense seems to be clicking together.
Maybe I misread what you said, but did I just read Matt Cassell is a probowl calliber player??? HAHA!
Maybe I misread what you said, but did I just read Matt Cassell is a probowl calliber player??? HAHA!
in '08 matt cassel should've made the pro bowl.....although he was with the pats at that time and was clearly a product of the offense i wont discount what he did. i said he was pro bowl caliber, not a pro bowler because he hasnt made the pro bowl
his offensive line is pretty terrible but its obvious that if his line gives him time, he can play very very well
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