The 11 Year QB Controversy
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I still say that had Tim Couch had the supporting cast around him he probably would have been successful, and perhaps even still with this team. While he wasn't the most talented, he had heart, and proved on a couple of occasions in his short career with the Browns that he could lead the team to a comeback victory. I feel bad that this organization by not giving him an O-Line and a legitimate RB (William Green? Ben Gay? Come on?) which in turn ruined his career. Wasn't he sacked like 56 times in his rookie year? Of course Butch's guuuuuuuuuuttttttttttt feelin' didn't help this kid either. It's too bad, because I actually liked the guy.
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i voted Greadkowski , he is able to do better than Jason Campbell and JR Rusell in the Raiders
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voted frye. struggled for like a quarter and got replaced by DA. he was the best option behind a struggling offensive line. he could run and he could pass but he didnt have the strongest arm. i thought he was more accurate than DA. plus he was a hometown boy
i think hes the biggest cleveland player to come out of akron ever right? i cant think of anybody else that came out of akron and played in cleveland that ever manned up and took his beatings
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voted frye. struggled for like a quarter and got replaced by DA. he was the best option behind a struggling offensive line. he could run and he could pass but he didnt have the strongest arm. i thought he was more accurate than DA. plus he was a hometown boy
i think hes the biggest cleveland player to come out of akron ever right? i cant think of anybody else that came out of akron and played in cleveland that ever manned up and took his beatings
voted frye. struggled for like a quarter and got replaced by DA. he was the best option behind a struggling offensive line. he could run and he could pass but he didnt have the strongest arm. i thought he was more accurate than DA. plus he was a hometown boy
i think hes the biggest cleveland player to come out of akron ever right? i cant think of anybody else that came out of akron and played in cleveland that ever manned up and took his beatings
He was the biggest player in the NFL to come out of Akron except maybe Jason Taylor and Domenick Hixon.
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voted frye. struggled for like a quarter and got replaced by DA. he was the best option behind a struggling offensive line. he could run and he could pass but he didnt have the strongest arm. i thought he was more accurate than DA. plus he was a hometown boy
i think hes the biggest cleveland player to come out of akron ever right? i cant think of anybody else that came out of akron and played in cleveland that ever manned up and took his beatings
He was the biggest player in the NFL to come out of Akron except maybe Jason Taylor and Domenick Hixon.
He was the biggest player in the NFL to come out of Akron except maybe Jason Taylor and Domenick Hixon.
To make up for it, perhaps now the Browns should offer a contract to LeBron to play WR for them. Only good things could come from doing this: A. He becomes really good and helps the team catch passes, or 2. He gets his sorry ass crushed in the process.
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I still say that had Tim Couch had the supporting cast around him he probably would have been successful, and perhaps even still with this team. While he wasn't the most talented, he had heart, and proved on a couple of occasions in his short career with the Browns that he could lead the team to a comeback victory. I feel bad that this organization by not giving him an O-Line and a legitimate RB (William Green? Ben Gay? Come on?) which in turn ruined his career. Wasn't he sacked like 56 times in his rookie year? Of course Butch's guuuuuuuuuuttttttttttt feelin' didn't help this kid either. It's too bad, because I actually liked the guy.
I still say that had Tim Couch had the supporting cast around him he probably would have been successful, and perhaps even still with this team. While he wasn't the most talented, he had heart, and proved on a couple of occasions in his short career with the Browns that he could lead the team to a comeback victory. I feel bad that this organization by not giving him an O-Line and a legitimate RB (William Green? Ben Gay? Come on?) which in turn ruined his career. Wasn't he sacked like 56 times in his rookie year? Of course Butch's guuuuuuuuuuttttttttttt feelin' didn't help this kid either. It's too bad, because I actually liked the guy.
Totally agree
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He was the biggest player in the NFL to come out of Akron except maybe Jason Taylor and Domenick Hixon.
To make up for it, perhaps now the Browns should offer a contract to LeBron to play WR for them. Only good things could come from doing this: A. He becomes really good and helps the team catch passes, or 2. He gets his sorry ass crushed in the process.
To make up for it, perhaps now the Browns should offer a contract to LeBron to play WR for them. Only good things could come from doing this: A. He becomes really good and helps the team catch passes, or 2. He gets his sorry ass crushed in the process.
i think i'd shake off the dust and suit up for a chance to clothesline his ass coming acroos the middle!
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Zombo said:
You are right, and as this poll clearly shows, Zombo was right and Atenears was wrong.Zombo
Ahh yes, the old "He had Heart" supporting arguement. Never mind that he was as dumb as Rocky Balboa (with less speaking parts in commericals), and never looked beyond the LB's and always settling for underneith bullshit. We had a veteran O-line in front of him in 1999 but he couldn't get on the same page. He sucked ... and he cried ... and never mind that he didn't make it here, he didn't make it anywhere. I think one off-season the Chicago Bears had two TE's and a Right Tackle playing QB and Couch still got cut.
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Zombo said:
You are right, and as this poll clearly shows, Zombo was right and Atenears was wrong.Zombo
Ahh yes, the old "He had Heart" supporting arguement. Never mind that he was as dumb as Rocky Balboa (with less speaking parts in commericals), and never looked beyond the LB's and always settling for underneith bullshit. We had a veteran O-line in front of him in 1999 but he couldn't get on the same page. He sucked ... and he cried ... and never mind that he didn't make it here, he didn't make it anywhere. I think one off-season the Chicago Bears had two TE's and a Right Tackle playing QB and Couch still got cut.
Ahh yes, the old "He had Heart" supporting arguement. Never mind that he was as dumb as Rocky Balboa (with less speaking parts in commericals), and never looked beyond the LB's and always settling for underneith bullshit. We had a veteran O-line in front of him in 1999 but he couldn't get on the same page. He sucked ... and he cried ... and never mind that he didn't make it here, he didn't make it anywhere. I think one off-season the Chicago Bears had two TE's and a Right Tackle playing QB and Couch still got cut.
Couch, was dink and dump with no pocket presence and a slow reader. NOT NFL material, the coach never wanted him, Carmen Policy did.
now to answer the question the closest to a franchise QB is Gradkowski, who never has really been given a chance to run a team for a season
But the real franchise choice, which I made a huge deal to go get was, Big Ben he was ours for the taking, instead we took a dumb TE. After that I made a overly strong recommendation to get Brees or Rivers whomever SD was making available.
As Stan said Couch was also dumber than a brick
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I voted for Derek Anderson because he has HorseBalls, and still has upside remaining.
"Mr Couch can you pull Golf Cart #27 around for the Epson Party, they will be starting out on the back nine"
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Couch could have been a very good player. His only weapon was KJ. The rest of his supporting cast was total garbage for his entire career.
DA had all the tools but none of the brains. He really could have been something special, but he's about go get unseated by an UDFA rookie in Arizona. He just never seemed to care.
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