I know we're 0-3 but....
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Formerly Stone said:
You can't expect to bring Jon Gruden in if Mangini is succeeding!It really has nothing to do with gruden i love the guy but theres no way holmgren can bring him here, but the fact is i would take almost any coach or even creative coordinator over mangini...the guy just sucks from a coaching aspect...
The team is in good shape at its base for a coach takeover at the end of the season and wouldnt necessarily need to be completely dismantled just appropriate pieces added to offense and as long as we stayed 3-4 the same there...
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The Browns are tremendously better. We only lost by a touchdown, last year the Ravens MURDERED us in both games.
There were Drives were our offense just had their way with the Ravens defense. And our D hung pretty tough most of the game. They just have to stop giving up so many third and longs.
The staff is doing a great job. The Browns are on the verge of being a really good team, and I'm excited for the future.
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You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
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You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
"A winner never whines." Paul Brown -
You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
I agree. They need to come together and believe in themselves, and learn how to win.
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The Browns are tremendously better. We only lost by a touchdown, last year the Ravens MURDERED us in both games.
There were Drives were our offense just had their way with the Ravens defense. And our D hung pretty tough most of the game. They just have to stop giving up so many third and longs.
The staff is doing a great job. The Browns are on the verge of being a really good team, and I'm excited for the future. Nuck
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Absolutely ! Our offense kicks ass on short yardage 3rd downs. Ngata and Lewis and company got their arses handed to them.
The Browns have a few more weaknesses for sure. Wallace .. has he thrown one good sideline pass? I don't think so... his depth perception
and his peripheral vision are lacking... or some freakin thing. I really, really hope Delhomme comes back next week...
And Wright... seemed like he was playing with no intensity or something. ALL THREE TD PASSES... were on Wright. When Joe Haden stepped in
at cb... Wright was in the nickle... and still was the goat on a td pass. The ratbirds made Wright look like he isn't very smart, and a giant step slow.
Wallace takes forever to see the field and make up his mind. Delhomme sees it FAST. I believe if Delhomme had not gotten hurt,
and somebody lit a fire under Wright, who doesn't seem to be barking material based on the last game... the Browns would have been
maybe 3-0.
I love the intensity of these Browns. I remember the loss of one/two/three yards on most third and one's. Now, the Browns WILL get at least
the first down most of the time. Hillis is a monster, Pashos played better than St. Claire...
a blue chip big time wr, a solid RT the whole year....more pass rush, another cb to take Wright's place in the nickle...@@, and the Browns go to the playoffs if
Delhomme stays healthy. We aren't that far away anymore. These Browns have some weaknesses turned into huge strengths now.
The Browns' list of needs used to be at least 3/4 of the first string roster. Now, the list is pretty short.
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You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
12 points or 200 points, 0-3 is still 0-3. I would beg to differ with your opinion of Pittsburgh. Wright plain out didn't even appear to try and play yesterday. Our pass rush is weak. Right side of offensive line, QB situation is in a quick fix mode. Stars are IMO Hillis, Thomas, Haden. I still don't know why they left Wright in the game. Haden is chomping at the bit to play and hits hard and tackles great. Makes no sense .
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You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
Compare the rosters and tell me who on the browns would be starting for the steelers. I see Thomas, Mack, maybe Rubin. Who else?
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You make a good point. We have a few talented players, and a lot of not so good players. Only so much you can do with that situation. It takes time to make a playoff team. Patience is hard, but necessary.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
This team is 12 points from being 3-0. They have a shot at being a solid team and ANY team that overlooks the Browns will be in trouble.
I think the "lacking talent" mantra is over-blown. We don't have a bunch of crazy gamebreakers... NEITHER DOES PITTSBURGH!
If we had a decent replacement for Wright we could have won against a weak Ravens in their backyard and that too convincingly. That show the level of talent in us. We need better talent. PERIOD.
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Zombo said:
In other cities that is called choking.Or simply, not being good enough.
If you take away our four game winning streak at the end of the season last year, we are 5- 26 over the past three seasons.
Cincy played an ugly game yesterday ... but they won. Pittsburgh started their fourth string QB and blew out a team we lost to with our starter. Baltimore got pushed around by our offensive line and punishing runing back, but they won because we refused to adjust to their Pro Bowl receiver. We looked "much improved " and lost.
It's getting old, brother. I'm sure I'll start coming around by Thursday like I always do ... but when you haven't won a game that has mattered in over three years it makes me angry ... I wish I saw more anger on the sideline yesterday.
Zombo
Fair enough, I have no real rebuttal reply. We still suck. I guess I was just glad to see us have a smash-mouth running game and the occasional stick by T.J. Ward. I'm liking what I see from Haden, and maybe not having him on the field all the time right now is a good thing in his development (at least he isn't out there learning how to lose). I liked seeing the Ravens go 3-and-out more than us. I liked seeing Wwinslow catches four very meaningless passes ans be no factor in us losing to that shit team. I liked Sheldon Browns well played Int a game or two back.
Baby steps and small glimmer oh hope ... at least I haven't gone total asshat and came on here to congratulate the ugly ass fanbase of Pittsburgh. I can't wait until Big Gay Ben comes back with his selfish attirude and screws that whole thing up.
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maybe it's just me, but is anyone else getting tired of seeing mangini give that frustrated/disgusted/confused look on the sideline when we give up a first down due to a big gain/penalty? show some emotion and get pissed. maybe if you don't like the penalties and first downs, you should do something about it.
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