Peyton Hillis making an impression
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^^^ Dude, Hillis had ravens players backpedaling as he was gonna initiate contact with them Sunday. I havnt seen that in a while.
^^^ Dude, Hillis had ravens players backpedaling as he was gonna initiate contact with them Sunday. I havnt seen that in a while.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
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^^^ Dude, Hillis had ravens players backpedaling as he was gonna initiate contact with them Sunday. I havnt seen that in a while.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
This is true, but what hasn't told you that he won't keep it up? Besides the fumbles in Tampa he's been dominate everytime he's touched the ball this year.
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^^^ Dude, Hillis had ravens players backpedaling as he was gonna initiate contact with them Sunday. I havnt seen that in a while.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
Keep in mind that the only reason the training camp competition was close is for 2 reasons:
1) Harrison's stats in the last 4 games of 2009.
2) Harrison's faster "top end" speed.
Harrison usually goes down upon initial contact. Personally, I do NOT believe the actual competition was that close.
I agree that the comparisons to Hall of Famer's ACCOMPLISHMENTS should wait, but certainly there should be no problem in comparing his "style" (as we have seen thus far) to any of a number of backs.
Mike
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Nice Read thanx
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He reminds me of Craig Heyward more than anybody else. He just runs into people. Alstott had better feet. Iron Head just put his head down and sped up. I love all the praise though. Like coach Ryan said, the dude is really fun to watch.
"Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin -
Watching Peyton Hillis play has given me a new spark to the game of football. If he is properly utilized, he will wear defences down. Before long the other teams are going to be forced to "game plan" around him. I have already seen how some of the defensive backs try to avoid him head on.
It's good to see a player like Hillis busting up a defence.
Here's to a long a prosperous career!!!
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^^^ Dude, Hillis had ravens players backpedaling as he was gonna initiate contact with them Sunday. I havnt seen that in a while.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
Again, I like Hillis but let's not enshrine him just yet. You guys realize that you are comparing a guy that didn't handily beat out a mediocre back in training camp to guys that had Hall of Fame careers? Let's get real.
Agreed. I hope he can keep it up. Hope you noticed he sent two Bengals to the sidelines today? Personally, I'm thinking John Riggins, he's faster than Jerome Bettis.
That pile be moving in a forward direction for a change. How many times last year did we have first and goal inside the five and get stuffed on three consecutive plays? It may be jumping the gun, but in reverse- this may be the best move the Browns made since the ill advised trade of Earnest Byner for Mike Oliphant.
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Hillis is just getting started, he is not that fast, but he is not slow. He is the complete back! If he can stay healthy and Harrison can spell him for about 10 carries a game, he will be putting a hurting on some folks come late Nov and Dec. I love the guy and I am proud to see a white dude dominate as a RB.
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Hillis is just getting started, he is not that fast, but he is not slow. He is the complete back! If he can stay healthy and Harrison can spell him for about 10 carries a game, he will be putting a hurting on some folks come late Nov and Dec. I love the guy and I am proud to see a white dude dominate as a RB.
Hillis is just getting started, he is not that fast, but he is not slow. He is the complete back! If he can stay healthy and Harrison can spell him for about 10 carries a game, he will be putting a hurting on some folks come late Nov and Dec. I love the guy and I am proud to see a white dude dominate as a RB.
Someone needs to hit that point home to the staff. I don't think Hillis can run the way he has been and stay healthy. It looked like he was going to fall over and pass out after that last run he had. I'm just glad we didn't need him to run the ball after that. I just hope he can rest up this week and be 100% for next week.
We need him to carry the load but we need to protect him a bit also. I think he was the only back that got a carry today... (cribbs ran it a few time)
They don't even have to give it to Harrison or Davis, if they want to stick with the power running, hand it to Vickers a few times for a few yards up the gut.
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Hillis is just getting started, he is not that fast, but he is not slow. He is the complete back! If he can stay healthy and Harrison can spell him for about 10 carries a game, he will be putting a hurting on some folks come late Nov and Dec. I love the guy and I am proud to see a white dude dominate as a RB.
Someone needs to hit that point home to the staff. I don't think Hillis can run the way he has been and stay healthy. It looked like he was going to fall over and pass out after that last run he had. I'm just glad we didn't need him to run the ball after that. I just hope he can rest up this week and be 100% for next week.
We need him to carry the load but we need to protect him a bit also. I think he was the only back that got a carry today... (cribbs ran it a few time)
They don't even have to give it to Harrison or Davis, if they want to stick with the power running, hand it to Vickers a few times for a few yards up the gut.
Someone needs to hit that point home to the staff. I don't think Hillis can run the way he has been and stay healthy. It looked like he was going to fall over and pass out after that last run he had. I'm just glad we didn't need him to run the ball after that. I just hope he can rest up this week and be 100% for next week.
We need him to carry the load but we need to protect him a bit also. I think he was the only back that got a carry today... (cribbs ran it a few time)
They don't even have to give it to Harrison or Davis, if they want to stick with the power running, hand it to Vickers a few times for a few yards up the gut.
I agree, and on Hillis looking sluggish at the end, any back is going to be exhausted after 27 carries with no real help. I really don't think they should limit themselves to power running...If Hillis is a bit drained, why not stick Harrison in to give him some relief, we didn't do it once today. Sure he may go down easy but if our blockers can get excited blocking for the little guy and create a hole, that opens the opportunity for a quick speedy gain, not to mention it would give a huge momentum boost to the whole team, including Hllis.
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The main difference between Hillis and Harrison is that the LB's absolutely cannot arm-tackle Hillis -- whereas they can usually do that with Harrison. Hillis is just that much bigger. This allows for the run blocking to only need to get a chip on the LB and Hillis is gone. With Harrison the LB could usually be half blocked but just reach out and arm tackle.
Go back and watch the last quarter of the Ravens game. It's fun. They could not stop him - even the Ravens safety ran up and instead of trying to knock him down, simply grabbed his pads and held him up, waiting for his teammates to come tackle Hillis.
Even if Harrison is faster, Hillis will be more productive in the NFL.
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The main difference between Hillis and Harrison is that the LB's absolutely cannot arm-tackle Hillis -- whereas they can usually do that with Harrison. Hillis is just that much bigger. This allows for the run blocking to only need to get a chip on the LB and Hillis is gone. With Harrison the LB could usually be half blocked but just reach out and arm tackle.
Go back and watch the last quarter of the Ravens game. It's fun. They could not stop him - even the Ravens safety ran up and instead of trying to knock him down, simply grabbed his pads and held him up, waiting for his teammates to come tackle Hillis.
Even if Harrison is faster, Hillis will be more productive in the NFL.
Even if Harrison is faster, Hillis will be more productive in the NFL.
Absolutely, but it would be nice if Hillis didn't turn out like Eddie George did and be retired in a couple years from being so beaten up. I just thought it was a little weird that Hillis was the only RB to touch the ball today.
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Hillis cannot carry the ball 27 times each game, that would leave him with over 400 carries plus receptions. Larry Johnson owns the record with 416 brutal carries in 2006. I remember Bettis talking about how difficult 300 carry seasons were. Bettis's career high was 375 carries. Bettis was a down hill runner but didn't go out of his way punish defenders, that can take it's toll. If he is gassed he is much more likely to get hurt. Let's keep him relatively fresh all year so that we aren't playing harrison an entire game later.
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"Hillis was not as impressive in the 23-20 victory against the Bengals as he was last week against the Ravens. Even still, he had 83 more rushing yards than his former team. Hillis bowled his way to 102 yards, while the entire Broncos team amassed a whopping 19 yards.
After Denver's Week 4 win, the Broncos are now averaging 55 yards rushing per game; Hillis is averaging 80.5 yards. The Broncos have three rushing touchdowns; Hillis has four."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/481230-...lish-every-week
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Bottom line: Peyton "Dozer" Hillis is Da Man!
As a life-long Broncos with a deep hatred for our new little dictator of a head coach, Josh "McStalin" McDaniels, I couldn't be happier for Hillis or for the hard-luck Browns. Congrats on your win today, and nice job sticking it to McStalin with the trade of Brady Q-ster for Peyton Hillis.
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He reminds me of Craig Heyward more than anybody else. He just runs into people. Alstott had better feet. Iron Head just put his head down and sped up. I love all the praise though. Like coach Ryan said, the dude is really fun to watch.
He reminds me of Craig Heyward more than anybody else. He just runs into people. Alstott had better feet. Iron Head just put his head down and sped up. I love all the praise though. Like coach Ryan said, the dude is really fun to watch.
A lot of you probably don't remember this guy, but Hillis reminds me a lot of an old Minnesota Viking named Bill Brown who played in the 60s/70s. He, like Hillis was #1 a white guy, but also #2 he would run down the field and purposely go for a straight ahead blast at a DB.
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"it would be nice if Hillis didn't turn out like Eddie George did"
Eddie George was an All-Pro four consecutive years. He played 9 years in the NFL, gaining over 10,000 yards in the process.
Incidentally, Eddie George did not miss a start due to injury until his last year in the league.
I disagree completely: It would be nice if Hillis did, in fact, turn out just like Eddie George. If Hillis turns out to only start the All-Star game twice, I think I'll find a way to forgive him.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
a BEAST... the Real Deal...
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"it would be nice if Hillis didn't turn out like Eddie George did"
Eddie George was an All-Pro four consecutive years. He played 9 years in the NFL, gaining over 10,000 yards in the process.
Incidentally, Eddie George did not miss a start due to injury until his last year in the league.
I disagree completely: It would be nice if Hillis did, in fact, turn out just like Eddie George. If Hillis turns out to only start the All-Star game twice, I think I'll find a way to forgive him.
"it would be nice if Hillis didn't turn out like Eddie George did"
Eddie George was an All-Pro four consecutive years. He played 9 years in the NFL, gaining over 10,000 yards in the process.
Incidentally, Eddie George did not miss a start due to injury until his last year in the league.
I disagree completely: It would be nice if Hillis did, in fact, turn out just like Eddie George. If Hillis turns out to only start the All-Star game twice, I think I'll find a way to forgive him.
You think I meant that I hope Hillis doesn't have the same success as Eddie?
I simply remember Eddie being dragged through the dirt with little help for many years in Tennessee, and I hope the Browns don't plan to do the same thing to Hillis.
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