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  • G Gee_Q

    Cleveland is averaging only 17 points a game.

    Not only that, Atlanta is only giving up 15 points a game. (13 if you take away the special teams TD we gave away yesterday). Even still.. You guys are suddenly going to score 10 points above your average?

    You are right about the 24 points for ATL. But that should be even for us to win this game.

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    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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    @gee_q said:

    Cleveland is averaging only 17 points a game.

    Not only that, Atlanta is only giving up 15 points a game. (13 if you take away the special teams TD we gave away yesterday). Even still.. You guys are suddenly going to score 10 points above your average?

    You are right about the 24 points for ATL. But that should be even for us to win this game.

    Its early, if you look at how many points we've scored in each game from the first one to the last one its gone up almost every week. Week 1 we scored 14, wk. 2 14, wk. 3 17 and week 4 23.

    And this week Jake will more than likely be back, and he'll have alot of opportunity's to make plays in the passing game when your defense is trying to stop Peyton Hillis. He put up over 100yds in each of the last two games against too of the best defenses in the league.

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      @the-gipper said:

      OK, you want statistics? The Browns are only giving up an average of 20.25 pts. per game. OH, and if you don't count the 17 points given up by the offense on turnovers the Browns have only averaged giving up 15 ppg. The most they have surrendered has been 24. How do you figure that the Falcons are going to go where the Bucs/Chiefs/Ravens/and Bengals haven't gone in terms of scoring. And remember, the Browns have done what they have done offensively with the starting QB essentially on the bench for all but one-half this entire season.

      We are a better offense than the 4 teams you just mentioned.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @gee_q said:

      We are a better offense than the 4 teams you just mentioned.

      Better than the Ravens with Flacco, Boldin, Houshmanzadeh, Rice, Heap etc.?

      Better than the Bangles with Palmer, T.O. Ocho, Benson, Gresham etc.?

      How do you figure? You are at best even with Ryan, White, Turner, and Gonzales.

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        massbrownsfanM massbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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        Oh Here we go Now we have to Deal with These Dirty South Mudehns,Ratbirds whatver they call themselves lol All you need to know Bird Fand #40 Hillis will run over and through your Defense Like Nothing BROWNS WILL WIN AGAIN Cya on sunday....

        GO BROWNIES We had a Great time in the Chatroom Yesterday thanx evryone

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        • WRREBELW WRREBEL

          Browns will crush the falcons..

          We are a wr aaway from being a really good team.

          I love scott fujita quote about winning one game, just garentees we won't got 0 and 16.. the guy is a stud.. we are on the brink of something special

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          A AtlantaFalconPokerPro wrote on last edited by AtlantaFalconPokerPro
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          @wrrebel said:

          Browns will crush the falcons..

          We are a wr aaway from being a really good team.

          I love scott fujita quote about winning one game, just garentees we won't got 0 and 16.. the guy is a stud.. we are on the brink of something special

          Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

          Falcons

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          Browns

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          I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

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            @wrrebel said:

            Browns will crush the falcons..

            We are a wr aaway from being a really good team.

            I love scott fujita quote about winning one game, just garentees we won't got 0 and 16.. the guy is a stud.. we are on the brink of something special

            Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

            Falcons

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            Browns

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            I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

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            @atlantafalconpokerpro said:

            Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

            Falcons

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            Browns

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            I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

            you just proved that those stats are quite even.. your defense has averaged about 10 less pass and rush yards per game than us.. So that gives you a much better defense?! thats enough for one 1st down..

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              @wrrebel said:

              Browns will crush the falcons..

              We are a wr aaway from being a really good team.

              I love scott fujita quote about winning one game, just garentees we won't got 0 and 16.. the guy is a stud.. we are on the brink of something special

              Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

              Falcons

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              Browns

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              I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @atlantafalconpokerpro said:

              Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

              Falcons

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              Browns

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              I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

              Well, that is all nice on paper, but the games are not played on paper. With all of what you have here the one stat that doesn't show is turnover ratio. The Browns are 1-3 rather than 3-1 almost purely as a result of turnovers.

              I suspect the Falcons are on the plus side of the turnover figure, fair to say? You won a game Sunday because a 49er couldn't hold on to the ball when doing so would have won the game. It is likely that this week will be very much like last week for you. Low scoring, defensive game decided by the TO factor.

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                @atlantafalconpokerpro said:

                Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

                Falcons

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                Browns

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                I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

                Well, that is all nice on paper, but the games are not played on paper. With all of what you have here the one stat that doesn't show is turnover ratio. The Browns are 1-3 rather than 3-1 almost purely as a result of turnovers.

                I suspect the Falcons are on the plus side of the turnover figure, fair to say? You won a game Sunday because a 49er couldn't hold on to the ball when doing so would have won the game. It is likely that this week will be very much like last week for you. Low scoring, defensive game decided by the TO factor.

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                G Gee_Q wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Well, that is all nice on paper, but the games are not played on paper. With all of what you have here the one stat that doesn't show is turnover ratio. The Browns are 1-3 rather than 3-1 almost purely as a result of turnovers.

                I suspect the Falcons are on the plus side of the turnover figure, fair to say? You won a game Sunday because a 49er couldn't hold on to the ball when doing so would have won the game. It is likely that this week will be very much like last week for you. Low scoring, defensive game decided by the TO factor

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                Sweet!! Like I said.. we'll go to 4-1 per your words. This week will be very much like last week for us. That would equate to a win.

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Well, that is all nice on paper, but the games are not played on paper. With all of what you have here the one stat that doesn't show is turnover ratio. The Browns are 1-3 rather than 3-1 almost purely as a result of turnovers.

                  I suspect the Falcons are on the plus side of the turnover figure, fair to say? You won a game Sunday because a 49er couldn't hold on to the ball when doing so would have won the game. It is likely that this week will be very much like last week for you. Low scoring, defensive game decided by the TO factor

                  .

                  Sweet!! Like I said.. we'll go to 4-1 per your words. This week will be very much like last week for us. That would equate to a win.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                  @gee_q said:

                  Sweet!! Like I said.. we'll go to 4-1 per your words. This week will be very much like last week for us. That would equate to a win.

                  Yes, IF you win the turnover battle, I would expect the Falcons to win. However, it is not inexorable that you are going to accomplish that. I believe the Browns won that battle this past week and it was instrumental in their victory. After a few games the Falcons are one of the tops in the league where the Browns are break even. Here are the stats. I believe you only need to look at the first number in the column to see the per game TO average:

                  1 NY Jets (3-1) +2.0 +2.0 +2.0 +2.5 +1.5 +0.2

                  2 Pittsburgh (3-1) +1.8 +2.3 +1.0 +0.5 +3.0 -0.2

                  3 Tampa Bay (2-1) +1.3 +1.3 0.0 +0.5 +3.0 -0.3

                  4 Atlanta (3-1) +1.2 +1.7 +1.0 +1.5 +1.0 +0.2

                  5 New England (3-1) +1.0 +0.7 +4.0 +1.5 +0.5 +0.2

                  6 Philadelphia (2-2) +0.8 +0.7 -1.0 0.0 +1.5 +0.7

                  6 Cincinnati (2-2) +0.8 +1.7 -1.0 +4.0 -0.3 -0.1

                  6 Chicago (3-1) +0.8 +1.3 0.0 0.0 +1.5 -0.4

                  6 Washington (2-2) +0.8 +0.7 +1.0 +1.0 +0.5 -0.7

                  10 New Orleans (3-1) +0.5 +0.3 -1.0 -0.7 +4.0 +0.9

                  10 St Louis (2-2) +0.5 +0.7 +1.0 +0.3 +1.0 -0.8

                  10 Indianapolis (2-2) +0.5 +0.7 -2.0 +2.0 0.0 +0.2

                  13 Kansas City (3-0) +0.3 +0.3 0.0 +0.5 0.0 +0.1

                  14 Denver (2-2) +0.2 +1.0 +1.0 +1.0 -0.5 +0.4

                  14 San Diego (2-2) +0.2 +0.7 +2.0 +2.5 -2.0 +0.4

                  16 Detroit (0-4) 0.0 -0.3 +1.0 -2.0 +0.7 -1.1

                  16 Cleveland (1-3) 0.0 +0.3 +1.0 +0.5 -0.5 -0.8

                  16 Jacksonville (2-2) 0.0 -0.7 +2.0 +1.0 -3.0 +0.1

                  (by the way, Baltimore is last in the league with a -1.8 TO avg. Most of that stemming from Flacco's 4 int. game)

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                    @wrrebel said:

                    Browns will crush the falcons..

                    We are a wr aaway from being a really good team.

                    I love scott fujita quote about winning one game, just garentees we won't got 0 and 16.. the guy is a stud.. we are on the brink of something special

                    Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

                    Falcons

                    sss.png

                    Browns

                    browns.png

                    I'm not going to sit here and say that this is going to be an easy game for the falcons, but were going to go to 4-1 after this week.

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                    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                    @atlantafalconpokerpro said:

                    Here is why what you're saying is wrong...

                    Falcons

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                    Browns

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                    Your offense average's .2 yards more a pass play than us, and our's average's .2 yards more a run play than you. Your defense gives up 4.6 yards per rush play compared to our 3.8 yards per play.

                    More attempt's make's you higher up on the stat sheet but if you look at quality per attempt, were with you......if not better.

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                      @gee_q said:

                      We are a better offense than the 4 teams you just mentioned.

                      Better than the Ravens with Flacco, Boldin, Houshmanzadeh, Rice, Heap etc.?

                      Better than the Bangles with Palmer, T.O. Ocho, Benson, Gresham etc.?

                      How do you figure? You are at best even with Ryan, White, Turner, and Gonzales.

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Better than the Ravens with Flacco, Boldin, Houshmanzadeh, Rice, Heap etc.?

                      Better than the Bangles with Palmer, T.O. Ocho, Benson, Gresham etc.?

                      How do you figure? You are at best even with Ryan, White, Turner, and Gonzales

                      .

                      Our offense ranks higher than all those offenses

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                        Zombo said:

                        Because those teams haven't seen that ferocious Cardinal defense.

                        Zombo

                        --It's too early in the season to go all-in on a stats argument.

                        I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

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                          Zombo said:

                          Because those teams haven't seen that ferocious Cardinal defense.

                          Zombo

                          --It's too early in the season to go all-in on a stats argument.

                          I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

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                          massbrownsfanM massbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                          @1falconsafan said:

                          I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

                          BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

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                            TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                            Any given Sunday. Numbers mean nothing.

                            Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Better than the Ravens with Flacco, Boldin, Houshmanzadeh, Rice, Heap etc.?

                              Better than the Bangles with Palmer, T.O. Ocho, Benson, Gresham etc.?

                              How do you figure? You are at best even with Ryan, White, Turner, and Gonzales

                              .

                              Our offense ranks higher than all those offenses

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @1falconsafan said:

                              Our offense ranks higher than all those offenses

                              That doesn't mean that any objective person would ever think they are as potent however. I mean, one year the Browns had a shootout with the Bengals that ended like 58-48. The offense put up a lot of numbers that day that elevated them several notches in the rankings. That didn't mean they were all that great. The next several weeks in a row they went back to scoring on average below 20 points.

                              So, the Falcons scored 41 points in one game. They also scored only 9 in another game and 16 in another. There is more evidence that you have a very low scoring offense than that you have a high scoring one.

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                                @1falconsafan said:

                                I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

                                BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

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                                @massbrownsfan said:

                                BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

                                Did you read my post?

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                                  @1falconsafan said:

                                  I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

                                  BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

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                                  @massbrownsfan said:

                                  BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

                                  Did you read my post?

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                                    Any given Sunday. Numbers mean nothing.

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                                    1 1falconsafan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @theclevelandsound said:

                                    Any given Sunday. Numbers mean nothing.

                                    Exactly that is why I don't ever say we will beat a team

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                                      @1falconsafan said:

                                      I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

                                      BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

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                                      W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
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                                      @massbrownsfan said:

                                      BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

                                      not to contradict anything u said but he did say that he DOES NOT see the falcons coming up here and putting a beat down down that he thinks it will be a close game lol

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                                        Haha! I love you Browns fans. I really do. I think you are some of the classiest arguers I've seen. None of this "Get the *bleep* off our boards" crap. Great sportsmanship. I'm not going to argue statistics or any of that stuff. I don't think there is a football fan in existence that is psychic enough to really accurately predict a game right?

                                        If you don't mind I'll give some of my opinions though. Take them with a grain of salt if you like. 🙂 I think you might have an improving team. I hate to say "might" but its true. Peyton Hillis is a VERY pleasant surprise and probably your savior thus far. I really like him as a player. I hope he keeps up the damage he is doing to other teams. (Except this week!) Your QB situation is not good. Jake Delhomme is not the guy. He couldn't get it done with Steve Smith as his #1 receiver last year and now he is old and injured. Seneca Wallace...ehhh. Reaching for Brady Quinn was unfortunate. I really hoped he would turn out to be your future guy. I guess you guys know all of this stuff. Still the most important thing is you are really playing teams hard and I think you are better than your record for sure.

                                        Grats on the Bengals victory. I'm sure that always feels great lol. I think this week will be a fight. And I definitely am NOT making any predictions.

                                        One last question though. How do Browns fans feel about Mangini generally? I'm just curious. Would you replace him if you could or do you think he just needs time?

                                        Quick edit: Matt Ryan is pretty damn good against the blitz. 🙂

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                                          @1falconsafan said:

                                          I don't plan on us coming up there and beating you guys down. I expect this to be a good game that will be close to the final seconds.

                                          BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

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                                          @massbrownsfan said:

                                          BEATDOWN You have lost your Mind thats what all the Southern Heat does to you LOL We are going to Blitz the shit out of your offense you will abonden the Run game you do have Unless we Injure Both your soft RB Hillis alone will wear down that Dirtsouth stinking Bird defense BEAT THIS DOWN .......

                                          Drunks and small kids need to be overlooked..lol

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