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  • @1falconsafan said:

    Yes Roddy is on the same level as Q. Just look at the stats.

    first off. roddy white is one of the best WRs in the league anybody that says differently isnt paying attention to a little known division called the NFC South

    having said that.......i warned you guys falcons fans are nothin but trouble.

    ive been at war with them for years.

    peyton hillis does this thing where he beats up little people and i cant foresee any team stopping him running behind steinbach, mack and thomas.....especially not the falcons

    Zombo said:

    Receiving Rushing

    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Att Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV

    2003* 23 ARI WR 81 16 16 101 1377 13.6 8 71 6.3 86.1 5 40 0 23 8.0 2.5 0.3 1417 8 3 10

    2004 24 ARI WR 81 10 9 56 623 11.1 1 31 5.6 62.3 1 3 0 3 3.0 0.3 0.1 626 1 1 5

    2005 25 ARI WR 81 14 14 102 1402 13.7 7 54 7.3 100.1 12 45 0 11 3.8 3.2 0.9 1447 7 2 10

    2006* 26 ARI WR 81 16 16 83 1203 14.5 4 64 5.2 75.2 5 28 0 18 5.6 1.8 0.3 1231 4 1 11

    2007 27 ARI WR 81 12 11 71 853 12.0 9 44 5.9 71.1 1 14 0 14 14.0 1.2 0.1 867 9 2 7

    2008* 28 ARI WR 81 12 11 89 1038 11.7 11 79 7.4 86.5 9 67 0 30 7.4 5.6 0.8 1105 11 4 11

    2009 29 ARI WR 81 15 15 84 1024 12.2 4 44 5.6 68.3 3 12 1 5 4.0 0.8 0.2 1036 5 3 9

    2010 30 BAL 81 4 0 27 355 13.1 3 38 6.8 88.8 1 3 0 3 3.0 0.8 0.3 358 3 0

    Career 99 92 613 7875 12.8 47 79 6.2 79.5 37 212 1 30 5.7 2.1 0.4 8087 48 16 63

    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Att Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV

    2005 24 ATL WR 84 16 8 29 446 15.4 3 54 1.8 27.9 4 12 0 16 3.0 0.8 0.3 458 3 1 5

    2006 25 ATL wr 84 16 5 30 506 16.9 0 55 1.9 31.6 506 0 1 5

    2007 26 ATL WR 84 16 15 83 1202 14.5 6 69 5.2 75.1 1 -2 0 -2 -2.0 -0.1 0.1 1200 6 3 9

    2008* 27 ATL WR 84 16 15 88 1382 15.7 7 70 5.5 86.4 2 4 0 2 2.0 0.3 0.1 1386 7 1 15

    2009* 28 ATL WR 84 16 16 85 1153 13.6 11 90 5.3 72.1 1 2 0 2 2.0 0.1 0.1 1155 11 1 12

    2010 29 ATL 84 4 0 32 362 11.3 2 24 8.0 90.5 362 2 0

    Career 84 59 347 5051 14.6 29 90 4.1 60.1 8 16 0 16 2.0 0.2 0.1 5067 29 7 46

    Boldin has had a better career being the #2 receiver in Arizona than Roddy has being the #1 in Atlanta

    White's very good, but I don't put him in the same category as a physical receiver as Boldin, and those are the guys that hurt us. I could be wrong though, I only catch a few Falcon games each year.

    White also plays in a run heavy offense and both have Q and White had almost identical stats over the past three years.

    Zombo

    @cantonlegend said:

    first off. roddy white is one of the best WRs in the league anybody that says differently isnt paying attention to a little known division called the NFC South

    having said that.......i warned you guys falcons fans are nothin but trouble.

    ive been at war with them for years.

    peyton hillis does this thing where he beats up little people and i cant foresee any team stopping him running behind steinbach, mack and thomas.....especially not the falcons

    I am not here to start trouble, but to talk football. I am here to get observations on you team and I am here to give you information on my team, not to start a war.

  • @dirtybird said:

    You guys are real confident huh? lol

    We aren't the Bengals guys.

    Your fans have posted at least 3 or 4 topics on this board boasting on how we won't stop you. You seem very confident yourself.

    We aren't the same old Browns guys. 😉

    @next2nothing said:

    Your fans have posted at least 3 or 4 topics on this board boasting on how we won't stop you. You seem very confident yourself.

    We aren't the same old Browns guys. 😉

    I haven`t posted anything of the sort.If anything speaking for myself the way SF played us and NO,PITT we are very beatable as is any team in the NFL.The OP shouldn`t have been so boastful...lol.That will bite you in the butt in the NFL.I am very scared for this game and know we are facing a good Browns team.

  • @next2nothing said:

    Your fans have posted at least 3 or 4 topics on this board boasting on how we won't stop you. You seem very confident yourself.

    We aren't the same old Browns guys. 😉

    I haven`t posted anything of the sort.If anything speaking for myself the way SF played us and NO,PITT we are very beatable as is any team in the NFL.The OP shouldn`t have been so boastful...lol.That will bite you in the butt in the NFL.I am very scared for this game and know we are facing a good Browns team.

    @oldfalcon said:

    I haven`t posted anything of the sort.If anything speaking for myself the way SF played us and NO,PITT we are very beatable as is any team in the NFL.The OP shouldn`t have been so boastful...lol.That will bite you in the butt in the NFL.I am very scared for this game and know we are facing a good Browns team.

    Yeah, my apologies, I kind of jumped the gun by saying other posters.

    I just don't like when opposing fans come here and proceed to tell us how their team is going to own us on Sunday and that we suck.

  • @oldfalcon said:

    I haven`t posted anything of the sort.If anything speaking for myself the way SF played us and NO,PITT we are very beatable as is any team in the NFL.The OP shouldn`t have been so boastful...lol.That will bite you in the butt in the NFL.I am very scared for this game and know we are facing a good Browns team.

    Yeah, my apologies, I kind of jumped the gun by saying other posters.

    I just don't like when opposing fans come here and proceed to tell us how their team is going to own us on Sunday and that we suck.

    @next2nothing said:

    Yeah, my apologies, I kind of jumped the gun by saying other posters.

    I just don't like when opposing fans come here and proceed to tell us how their team is going to own us on Sunday and that we suck.

    Man you guys are cool to what we have endured with the Saints,Panthers and Bucs.Especially the mighty Saints..lol..We beating them in NO was so sweet.I`m sure you guys hate your divison rivals equally and catch the same sh1t from them..lol

  • I will also say that after looking at some of the stats and some of the debates here that I may have undervalued Roddy White. He may indeed be closer in capability to Anquon Boldin than I originally thought. He is just not a guy I have heard or seen that much about. So, OK, the Browns indeed need to try to contain this guy.

    Fair enough?

  • I think some of you are sleeping on Roddy.... I like Boldin and heck we tried to trade for Boldin so he could be our #2 WR (when the cards were trading him)

    But i would take Roddy over Boldin in a second... Roddy is not as physical as a WR as Boldin but Roddy plays physical.. The thing that makes Roddy a special WR is that he has everything... Dunta Robinson (former texans) says it all the time.. Roddy remind him so much of Andre Johnson

  • @oldfan said:

    The Falcons are a run-first offense that easily transitions to the passing game when opposing defenses stack the box. Look at the Falcons stats and you see they are close to 50/50 run/pass. If you commit to stopping Turner/Snelling then you suddenly have Gonzalez/White/Douglas getting loose down field. Do the Browns have what it takes to defensively shift gears and stop a potentially deadly Atlanta O?

    The Falcons offense is no better truly than most of the offenses the Browns have played thus far. They have faced veteran QBs who are considered the equal or better than Matt Ryan in Cassel, Flacco and Palmer. They have faced RBs like Ray Rice and Cedric Benson who are considered the equivalent of the Falcons RBs. They have faced receivers better than any the Falcons have. The Browns defense got burned big time by Anquon Boldin, and T.O. had a big day against them. Do the Falcons have a WR the equivalent of those two? No.

    Could the Falcons burn them? Sure. At some point any NFL team can burn any other NFL team. Is it likely the Falcons will totally scorch the Browns defense? No way.

    This game will be like every other Browns game this year: close to the vest, low scoring, and close at the end. Which team can pull things off and win may be totally up to serendipity and who executes best. If not for a couple of pass interceptions for TD the Browns could be 3-1. But, they did make those mistakes, and in the end it will probably be the mistakes and turnovers that decide this game.

    Hey everyone, A Falcon fan here.

    Was browsing your forums and had to join the conversation.

    @the-gipper said:

    They have faced veteran QBs who are considered the equal or better than Matt Ryan in Cassel, Flacco and Palmer. could be 3-1. But, they did make those mistakes, and in the end it will probably be the mistakes and turnovers that decide this game.

    I can not argue against Flacco, or Palmer but I am really in the dark on Cassel. He must have really improved since last year and the preseason. I just assumed KC winning just luck from the football not being round. Has he gotton better against the blitz and readign defenses? Haven't had a chance to watch him this year and I never trust stats from the first four games. Including ours or yours.

    Any knowledge on his skill improving would be nice got two buddies who are big KC fans and don't wanna be unarmed this Halloween.

    @the-gipper said:

    I will also say that after looking at some of the stats and some of the debates here that I may have undervalued Roddy White. He may indeed be closer in capability to Anquon Boldin than I originally thought. He is just not a guy I have heard or seen that much about. So, OK, the Browns indeed need to try to contain this guy.

    Fair enough?

    Don't feel bad, you go to most teams boards in the NFC south and they don't have much love for white ethier. Nothing wrong with that people watch their teams and what evers on other times. Trust me he is pretty damn solid and most likely sneaking in the top 5 category.

    @cantonlegend said:

    peyton hillis does this thing where he beats up little people and i cant foresee any team stopping him running behind steinbach, mack and thomas.....especially not the falcons

    And hell is frozen over, I am agreeing with a Saints fan ("Married to one as well, talking about a glutten for punishment") the Falcons' defense if very fast, really fast. But we are not physical, we have a defensive line that is extremily undersized. The punishing back like you guys have scares the krap out of me.

    Your team has a great chance of winning this game, it really comes down I think to how long we keep you off the field. We can't take Hillis very long. You can easily shut down our running game as long as you keep Matt on his rear. If Matt is hot though, we most likley get the W. So far this season he has been streaky, but thats expected from most young QB's.

    Keep him rattled and give us a taste of our own medicine with your running game and we will have a long day.

    Good luck with your health and hopefully we come out with a W.

  • Have a good Kicker...

  • Have a good Kicker...

    @strato said:

    Have a good Kicker...

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

  • @strato said:

    Have a good Kicker...

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

    Then you should win..see our game with these clowns...

  • @strato said:

    Have a good Kicker...

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

    i hate to say it but year in and year out the best players on the browns are the special teamers

    its good to have clutch guys like zastudil(even tho hes hurt) and dawson

    not to mention that quarterback from kent state.....whats his name? you know, that best return man ever....

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Our kicker has been with us since we came back in the NFL in 1999. He's good.

    Then you should win..see our game with these clowns...

    @strato said:

    Then you should win..see our game with these clowns...

    Go Cardinals!!!..I hope they don`t need their kicker except to kick extra points on the TD`s they score ya`ll..lol

  • @strato said:

    Then you should win..see our game with these clowns...

    Go Cardinals!!!..I hope they don`t need their kicker except to kick extra points on the TD`s they score ya`ll..lol

    @oldfalcon said:

    Go Cardinals!!!..I hope they don`t need their kicker except to kick extra points on the TD`s they score ya`ll..lol

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO

  • @oldfalcon said:

    Go Cardinals!!!..I hope they don`t need their kicker except to kick extra points on the TD`s they score ya`ll..lol

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO

    @strato said:

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO
    You make Pro Football fans look bad..The Falcons were in the Superbowl in 1998..to bad we had to face Elway in his last year..do some NFL Football research while you get your foot out of yer mouth there,skippy...LMAO
  • @oldfalcon said:

    Go Cardinals!!!..I hope they don`t need their kicker except to kick extra points on the TD`s they score ya`ll..lol

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO

    @strato said:

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO

    Hey guys your friendly falcon fan here. STRATO go back to your black and gold forum where you belong. i believe you got bigger things to worry about than the falcons and browns playing. you show alot of class, you look like a real jackass on here. its alright though your just a typical bandwagon fan. 🙂

  • @strato said:

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO
    You make Pro Football fans look bad..The Falcons were in the Superbowl in 1998..to bad we had to face Elway in his last year..do some NFL Football research while you get your foot out of yer mouth there,skippy...LMAO

    @oldfalcon said:

    You make Pro Football fans look bad..The Falcons were in the Superbowl in 1998..to bad we had to face Elway in his last year..do some NFL Football research while you get your foot out of yer mouth there,skippy...LMAO

    im not trying to get into anything here

    but didnt we play a QB that most people consider to be the greatest of all time?

    i know the circumstances are different but it seems to me that facing elite QBs just comes with the trophy. and the saints beat 3 of the best to ever play on their way to their first one

  • @oldfalcon said:

    You make Pro Football fans look bad..The Falcons were in the Superbowl in 1998..to bad we had to face Elway in his last year..do some NFL Football research while you get your foot out of yer mouth there,skippy...LMAO

    im not trying to get into anything here

    but didnt we play a QB that most people consider to be the greatest of all time?

    i know the circumstances are different but it seems to me that facing elite QBs just comes with the trophy. and the saints beat 3 of the best to ever play on their way to their first one

    @cantonlegend said:

    im not trying to get into anything here

    but didnt we play a QB that most people consider to be the greatest of all time?

    i know the circumstances are different but it seems to me that facing elite QBs just comes with the trophy. and the saints beat 3 of the best to ever play on their way to their first one

    WE? Who the eff are WE, Canton Mike? Which NFL team gives you a paycheck? I thought you were a Browns fan? If by "we" you mean the Saints, I would say, yes, in their playoff run the Saints be P. Manning, Favre, and Warner, a pretty good trifecta.

  • @cantonlegend said:

    im not trying to get into anything here

    but didnt we play a QB that most people consider to be the greatest of all time?

    i know the circumstances are different but it seems to me that facing elite QBs just comes with the trophy. and the saints beat 3 of the best to ever play on their way to their first one

    WE? Who the eff are WE, Canton Mike? Which NFL team gives you a paycheck? I thought you were a Browns fan? If by "we" you mean the Saints, I would say, yes, in their playoff run the Saints be P. Manning, Favre, and Warner, a pretty good trifecta.

    @the-gipper said:

    WE? Who the eff are WE, Canton Mike? Which NFL team gives you a paycheck? I thought you were a Browns fan?

    its probably because im not canton mike.......i dont know who that is

  • @strato said:

    lets see Saints ...Bucs and Panthers...what do we have in common?...lol..oh Superbowl....lol...Yall need to get there oneday you make our division look bad..LMAO

    Hey guys your friendly falcon fan here. STRATO go back to your black and gold forum where you belong. i believe you got bigger things to worry about than the falcons and browns playing. you show alot of class, you look like a real jackass on here. its alright though your just a typical bandwagon fan. 🙂

    @fila87 said:

    Hey guys your friendly falcon fan here. STRATO go back to your black and gold forum where you belong. i believe you got bigger things to worry about than the falcons and browns playing. you show alot of class, you look like a real jackass on here. its alright though your just a typical bandwagon fan. 🙂

    LOL..Falcoons suck..Browns kick em a new one...Ask CantonLegend if im a bandwagon...probably old enough to be your daddy..son....yall busted in this thread talkin smack....as usual..you still suck...lol

  • @fila87 said:

    Hey guys your friendly falcon fan here. STRATO go back to your black and gold forum where you belong. i believe you got bigger things to worry about than the falcons and browns playing. you show alot of class, you look like a real jackass on here. its alright though your just a typical bandwagon fan. 🙂

    LOL..Falcoons suck..Browns kick em a new one...Ask CantonLegend if im a bandwagon...probably old enough to be your daddy..son....yall busted in this thread talkin smack....as usual..you still suck...lol

    @strato said:

    LOL..Falcoons suck..Browns kick em a new one...Ask CantonLegend if im a bandwagon...probably old enough to be your daddy..son....yall busted in this thread talkin smack....as usual..you still suck...lol

    Class act.