T.J. Ward

[calfoxwc]

Owens translation:

"Waaaaa, the Browns don't just give up passes all day anymore, waaaaaa"

NFL translation:

"Waaaaa, The Browns aren't one of our chosen teams, waaaaaaaa"

Palmers translation:

"Waaaaaaaa, we lost the game and their defense means business now, waaaaaa"

whine whine whine.

If it had been a hit by Pollymaulyouwithhishair, there would have been a 50 dollar fine.

Winning teams get the juice, the NFL likes the $$$$.

I love T.J. Ward's play. That one hit didn't quite turn out like he meant it, but it's a fast game.

The Browns have to play big, it's a big play game.

[The Gipper]

Formerly Stone said:

1. These clips are from past years before the helmet to helmet sissy rules started.

2. If you watch closely you will see that he leads with his face mask and not the crown of his helmet.

Were they from before the head to head rules started? I kind of question that. I am understanding that those rules have been around about 10 years.

And on the Reed hit, I don't know what you are watching. It is clearly the smack dab top of his helmet that he lays into Reed's throat.

Like I said, that one was foolish on his part....for his own sake. Forget about the guy he hit. That his looked like a paraplegic maker...for him.

[Kosar_For_President]

@clevelandmilidh said:

Quick video I put together, Im gonna do a complete one once I get some more video of him.

"The Warden" is his new handle, copyrighted by me....

Dude, nice editing, but "Bodies Hit the Floor". Come on, 99% of all NFL compilations use this dumb f*cking song

See my post for song suggestions.

[neohionative]

@dawgpoundpitt said:

Not gunna lie....i loved the TJ Ward hit on shipley...yea hes gunna get fined, but i think it shows that he will light someone up if you come across him. Yes it lead to a TD but still we need that intimadator in our D and hes showing he can be that guy

Looking though this thread I see a lot of comments at the very least tacitly approving the hit, yet these are some of the same people who bitched high and low about another Ward being a cheapshot artist extraordinaire...

It's this kind of dimwitted hypocrisy and stubborn refusal to aknowledge talent elsewhere that makes being a Brown's fan here kind of hard

[hoorta]

@neohionative said:

Looking though this thread I see a lot of comments at the very least tacitly approving the hit, yet these are some of the same people who bitched high and low about another Ward being a cheapshot artist extraordinaire...

It's this kind of dimwitted hypocrisy and stubborn refusal to aknowledge talent elsewhere that makes being a Brown's fan here kind of hard

When did I ever say Hines Ward wasn't talented? IMO, he's borderline HOF, and if he stays healthy a few more seasons, he's a lock.

BTW, I'm done arguing with Stone- he can believe whatever he wants to about HW, and it sure isn't going to change my opinion any on the matter. Not only in denial what a cheap shot looks like presented conclusive video evidence, he's clueless to what the term "spearing" means.

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

When did I ever say Hines Ward wasn't talented? IMO, he's borderline HOF, and if he stays healthy a few more seasons, he's a lock.

BTW, I'm done arguing with Stone- he can believe whatever he wants to about HW, and it sure isn't going to change my opinion any on the matter. Not only in denial what a cheap shot looks like presented conclusive video evidence, he's clueless to what the term "spearing" means.

Perhaps who and who is not a "dirty" player is purely a subjective matter. Perhaps Stone thinks subjectively that Hines is not a dirty player. Unfortunately for him, subjectively, Ward's peers perceive him and voted him the dirtiest player in the NFL. Is that unfair? Ward and Steeler may subjectively think so. Nevertheless that perception is out there. Is perception reality?

[WarrenDawg]

T.J., Please put a good lick on each receiver on my list...

1. Hiney Ward

2. Ochocinco

3. T.O.

[djdawg2010]

@warrendawg said:

T.J., Please put a good lick on each receiver on my list...

1. Hiney Ward

2. Ochocinco

3. T.O.

Amen brutha!

[Browns57]

@earl34 said:

Oh my. Coming from that paragon of positive lockerroom dynamics known as TO. All I can say is "Oh my". This is why teams were beating down the door for you this season T.O..

Personally, I'm kind of tired of hearing everyone's opinion on what TJ Ward's intent was. So, if you believe the talking heads, he deliberately intended to hurt Shipley. He took a cheap shot. I don't think that anything you see on film is going to tell you that. It was a good hit that was a little too high and therefore illegal.

When Erik Smith knocked the snot out of Anquan Boldin in 2008, he was running full speed and initiated the hit. The other DB hit Boldin from behind and Boldin then rotated to a position where Smith struck him helmet to helmet. The game moves fast and sometimes the aggressor can't change his vector to avoid an illegal hit.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Welcome to the NFL Jordan.

To bad he didn't light up Ocho Cinco like that!!!! He is an even bigger jerk now that he has TO on his team. And by the way I don't think that hit was dirty. Led with shoulder. But their helmets did hit so it should have been penalized. And I don't think Hines Ward takes cheap shots either. That is just good hard hitting football. And if anybody here is going to bash TJ Ward and not Hines Ward or vice versa then they are just crazy. And if they are going to cry about either one then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go be a BENGALS fan because you will fit right in. I mean it PLEASE GO because you don't deserve to have the right to be called a BROWNS FAN.

[alporcini]

Good cutting on the video... you might want to add some of this big college hits to the collage in the meantime... I'm still leaning towards the monicker TRAUMA WARD.