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Jerome Harrison traded for Mike Bell (Jay Glazer reporting)

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  • St. Louis Browns S
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    S St. Louis Browns wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo said:

    Bell did OK in that thre--headed monster the champions Saints had at RB last year, led them in carries. Averaged 3.8 per.

    Had a decent stretch for the Broncos one year too.

    I hope he is a good blocker and a good special teamer ... Harrison was a horrible blocker.

    Zombo

    I think BELL is much more similar to Hillis...it seems during the Atlanta game that the change of style from Hillis to Harrison was disrupting the timing of the run blocking scheme. With a back like Bell, the lineman can utilize the same tempo in their run blocking assignments.

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      Zombo said:

      Bell did OK in that thre--headed monster the champions Saints had at RB last year, led them in carries. Averaged 3.8 per.

      Had a decent stretch for the Broncos one year too.

      I hope he is a good blocker and a good special teamer ... Harrison was a horrible blocker.

      Zombo

      I think BELL is much more similar to Hillis...it seems during the Atlanta game that the change of style from Hillis to Harrison was disrupting the timing of the run blocking scheme. With a back like Bell, the lineman can utilize the same tempo in their run blocking assignments.

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      S St. Louis Browns wrote on last edited by
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      @st.-louis-browns said:

      I think BELL is much more similar to Hillis...it seems during the Atlanta game that the change of style from Hillis to Harrison was disrupting the timing of the run blocking scheme. With a back like Bell, the lineman can utilize the same tempo in their run blocking assignments.

      Schefter is reporting that we almost traded Harrison two weeks ago, but the deal fell through:

      "Cleveland nearly dealt Jerome Harrison elsewhere two weeks ago, but deal fell through. Only a matter of time before trade materialized."

      http://twitter.com/adam_schefter

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        Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

        But what else can you do when the player no longer fits in the scheme of things and bell couldnt do any worse from running through the tackle and guard then harrison was doing...

        Looks like we are in a full scale non stop rebuild with heckert on board, maybe he can give the gini everything he needs to go 4-12 next year!

        Seriously any action from upstairs that moves a player that does not fit in for one that might is better than being idle..i hope harrison does well in his new home and finds the game time surrounding more comfortable..

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        P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by pizzadeliveryguy
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        @gips said:

        Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

        Comparing a ProBowl tackle to a RB that probably should be in the UFL?

        Props to management for not paying and getting rid of a guy that didn't want to be here and really isn't very good.

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          Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

          But what else can you do when the player no longer fits in the scheme of things and bell couldnt do any worse from running through the tackle and guard then harrison was doing...

          Looks like we are in a full scale non stop rebuild with heckert on board, maybe he can give the gini everything he needs to go 4-12 next year!

          Seriously any action from upstairs that moves a player that does not fit in for one that might is better than being idle..i hope harrison does well in his new home and finds the game time surrounding more comfortable..

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          Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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          @gips said:

          Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

          What the hell is wrong with you people. Thomas has been a Pro Bowler for what 3 years in a row and one bad game means he sucks. Also Thomas loves playing in Cleveland, he has made that evident over the years he has played here and at the very least, Thomas isn't the kind of person who is going to let guys get through to hurt people just to get traded. If you think that he would you might seriously be mentally challenged.

          Ruining threads since 1897.
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            M MudratDetector wrote on last edited by
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            joe thomas loves CLE. nobody invests that much time into a community only to be asked to be traded.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Don't pay attention to the Troll GIPS, the guy is Bipolar and a Steeler fan.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by
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                Awesome!!!!!!!!!! JH was terrible and Bell ran really, really well in Denver's zone blocking scheme and we run the same scheme. This is EXCELLENT!!!!!!

                "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin
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                  Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

                  But what else can you do when the player no longer fits in the scheme of things and bell couldnt do any worse from running through the tackle and guard then harrison was doing...

                  Looks like we are in a full scale non stop rebuild with heckert on board, maybe he can give the gini everything he needs to go 4-12 next year!

                  Seriously any action from upstairs that moves a player that does not fit in for one that might is better than being idle..i hope harrison does well in his new home and finds the game time surrounding more comfortable..

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                  @gips said:

                  Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

                  But what else can you do when the player no longer fits in the scheme of things and bell couldnt do any worse from running through the tackle and guard then harrison was doing...

                  Looks like we are in a full scale non stop rebuild with heckert on board, maybe he can give the gini everything he needs to go 4-12 next year!

                  Seriously any action from upstairs that moves a player that does not fit in for one that might is better than being idle..i hope harrison does well in his new home and finds the game time surrounding more comfortable..

                  Your posts are ridiculously negative. Harrison xxxxing sucked.. I'm glad he is gone. Thomas is a stud, and loves playing here. He will be a Brown for a long time. Maybe you could try being patient and giving this management sometime instead of knee jerking and spewing your bullshit all over every thread you post in. Mangini needs time. He has improved this team so much that I can actually watch on Sundays without being disgusted (for the most part). Even some of the trolls on this board are recognizing this team is heading in the right direction.

                  So stop with the negativity.

                  Stop with the bullshit.

                  Try posting something productive for a change besides OMG FIRE MANGINA!!!!1!

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                    Jerome Harrison was traded straight up for Mike Bell according to Jay Glazer.

                    "Eagles have traded rb mike bell to browns for rb jerome harrison"

                    http://twitter.com/jay_glazer

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                    B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                    @st.-louis-browns said:

                    Jerome Harrison was traded straight up for Mike Bell according to Jay Glazer.

                    "Eagles have traded rb mike bell to browns for rb jerome harrison"

                    http://twitter.com/jay_glazer

                    he looks ok.. Not sure how he will be ready by sunday but here is a video of him: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...Bell-highlights

                    besides the fumble he looked fine..

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                      BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                      If only Hardesty was not injured, we could have traded Harrison for a decent #2 WR atleast.

                      Hopefully Bell is an able RB and once Hillis and Hardesty are back we could have the best bruiser pack in the AFC !

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                        @gips said:

                        Joe thomas will be the next to want out...but hey he sucks too..

                        But what else can you do when the player no longer fits in the scheme of things and bell couldnt do any worse from running through the tackle and guard then harrison was doing...

                        Looks like we are in a full scale non stop rebuild with heckert on board, maybe he can give the gini everything he needs to go 4-12 next year!

                        Seriously any action from upstairs that moves a player that does not fit in for one that might is better than being idle..i hope harrison does well in his new home and finds the game time surrounding more comfortable..

                        Your posts are ridiculously negative. Harrison xxxxing sucked.. I'm glad he is gone. Thomas is a stud, and loves playing here. He will be a Brown for a long time. Maybe you could try being patient and giving this management sometime instead of knee jerking and spewing your bullshit all over every thread you post in. Mangini needs time. He has improved this team so much that I can actually watch on Sundays without being disgusted (for the most part). Even some of the trolls on this board are recognizing this team is heading in the right direction.

                        So stop with the negativity.

                        Stop with the bullshit.

                        Try posting something productive for a change besides OMG FIRE MANGINA!!!!1!

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                        M MudratDetector wrote on last edited by
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                        @blowe said:

                        Your posts are ridiculously negative. Harrison xxxxing sucked.. I'm glad he is gone. Thomas is a stud, and loves playing here. He will be a Brown for a long time. Maybe you could try being patient and giving this management sometime instead of knee jerking and spewing your bullshit all over every thread you post in. Mangini needs time. He has improved this team so much that I can actually watch on Sundays without being disgusted (for the most part). Even some of the trolls on this board are recognizing this team is heading in the right direction.

                        So stop with the negativity.

                        Stop with the bullshit.

                        Try posting something productive for a change besides OMG FIRE MANGINA!!!!1!

                        i'm done with Gips. responding to his posts only dignifies that tripe.

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                          USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                          I wouldn't get all excited. We traded one crappy back to another. Hopefully i'm wrong, but Bell's numbers aren't great and my Eagles buddy said he was just ok with them.

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                            S steel88 wrote on last edited by
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                            What some of you are failing to realize is that we now have another big back to spell hillis, and keep the pounding on the opposing D going. It couldnt be any better. This will be an early look at what having two big backs will look like in the back field next season.

                            What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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                              Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                              How could Harrison look so good last season and then so poorly this year? Maybe he didn't want to play for this team? Great steal for the Eagles... The guy some skill

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                                What some of you are failing to realize is that we now have another big back to spell hillis, and keep the pounding on the opposing D going. It couldnt be any better. This will be an early look at what having two big backs will look like in the back field next season.

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                                USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                Dawgfanforever88 said:

                                What some of you are failing to realize is that we now have another big back to spell hillis, and keep the pounding on the opposing D going. It couldnt be any better. This will be an early look at what having two big backs will look like in the back field next season.

                                Doesn't matter how big he is if he sucks.

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                                  I loved the Harrison pick when we drafted him, loved the kid in college, but almost immediately it was clear that he wasn't gonna cut it in this league as he copuldn't break a shoe-string tackle to save his life. Then he started working out with Jamal Lewis and beefed-up and I started giving him the benefit of doubt again. With experience and hopefully learning how to finally block, I gave hiom a chance this season as our starter heading into the season, although doubted he had any break-away speed to hit home runs. All of sudden Peyton Hillis comes along and makes Harrison look like the buggle gum running back in the jar with all the others who couldn't cut it in this league. For Heckert to get something for this guy is awesome. Bell can add a thing or two ... I'm thrilled with this trade.

                                  I'm thrilled that management ain't sitting on their salaries waiting another off-season ... Now, trade three of our useless receivers for one that belongs in the NFL.

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                                    BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                    mikeyP72 said:

                                    Harrison played well at the end of the season against terrible teams jocking for draft position. I'm not saying the kid doesnt have any talent, but those games are a little misleading....

                                    Also against the premier defense, he was very very average. the final few games raised his stock. Also when we tendered him there were no takers ..... interesting, no ?

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                                      Dawgfanforever88 said:

                                      What some of you are failing to realize is that we now have another big back to spell hillis, and keep the pounding on the opposing D going. It couldnt be any better. This will be an early look at what having two big backs will look like in the back field next season.

                                      Doesn't matter how big he is if he sucks.

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                                      S steel88 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @usfbrown said:

                                      Doesn't matter how big he is if he sucks.

                                      He played well in denvers zone blocking scheme which just so happens to be the same scheme we run. Don't count him out just yet.

                                      What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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                                        @usfbrown said:

                                        Doesn't matter how big he is if he sucks.

                                        He played well in denvers zone blocking scheme which just so happens to be the same scheme we run. Don't count him out just yet.

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                                        USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        Dawgfanforever88 said:

                                        He played well in denvers zone blocking scheme which just so happens to be the same scheme we run. Don't count him out just yet.

                                        I'm not counting him out, I'm just saying... I do hope he does well with us.

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                                          mikeyP72 said:

                                          Harrison played well at the end of the season against terrible teams jocking for draft position. I'm not saying the kid doesnt have any talent, but those games are a little misleading....

                                          fwiw lots of running backs face those same teams every season and very very few of them have the kind of impact that harrison had in those games

                                          200+ rush yards is an accomplishment against any defense in this league

                                          dont discredit what harrison did last season because he was a backup this season

                                          but as a saints fan i got to watch a lot of bell last season. he was our best running back through the first half of the season and only dropped off because his carries decreased. he could've been a thousand yard back last season. once i got the text for this trade i new it was a great addition for the brownies because he runs almost exactly like hillis

                                          hes a little quicker and sometimes he'll try to bounce it outside, but for the most part he is just like hillis. a one cut, downhill runner

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