The Big Bad Steeler D
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Something to think about....
The Big, Bad Steelers Defense is tied for ninth with 11 sacks (through 4 games) for a total of 2.75 sacks per game
Did you realize that through five games, the Browns are tied for fifth allowing only 7 sacks through five games? They're third in the league having allowed only 14 hits on the QB. Only Mark Sanchez and Tom Brady have been hit less. Granted, those hits have proven costly but there is at least some objective evidence that the offensive line can pass protect for the rookie.
Furthermore, the Browns' pass defense is actually rated 18th vs the Steelers' 20th rated pass defense.
Something to think about....
The Big, Bad Steelers Defense is tied for ninth with 11 sacks (through 4 games) for a total of 2.75 sacks per game
Did you realize that through five games, the Browns are tied for fifth allowing only 7 sacks through five games? They're third in the league having allowed only 14 hits on the QB. Only Mark Sanchez and Tom Brady have been hit less. Granted, those hits have proven costly but there is at least some objective evidence that the offensive line can pass protect for the rookie.
Furthermore, the Browns' pass defense is actually rated 18th vs the Steelers' 20th rated pass defense.
And SACKS Alone are the End all BE all of Rating a Defense... Right ? Stats not the Story... Steelers somewhat of a Bend dont Break D... If you have Offensive Capability you CAN Indeed MOVE that Ball on the Steelers. I think they Bet that You will mess up Before you can Score , More often than Not. Last stat I heard was Blitzing less than 40% of the Time this Year. Add to that they will HIT you and HIT you hard... so Intimidation also a factor.
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Something to think about....
The Big, Bad Steelers Defense is tied for ninth with 11 sacks (through 4 games) for a total of 2.75 sacks per game
Did you realize that through five games, the Browns are tied for fifth allowing only 7 sacks through five games? They're third in the league having allowed only 14 hits on the QB. Only Mark Sanchez and Tom Brady have been hit less. Granted, those hits have proven costly but there is at least some objective evidence that the offensive line can pass protect for the rookie.
Furthermore, the Browns' pass defense is actually rated 18th vs the Steelers' 20th rated pass defense.
And SACKS Alone are the End all BE all of Rating a Defense... Right ? Stats not the Story... Steelers somewhat of a Bend dont Break D... If you have Offensive Capability you CAN Indeed MOVE that Ball on the Steelers. I think they Bet that You will mess up Before you can Score , More often than Not. Last stat I heard was Blitzing less than 40% of the Time this Year. Add to that they will HIT you and HIT you hard... so Intimidation also a factor.
And SACKS Alone are the End all BE all of Rating a Defense... Right ?
I didn't say that. You did.
This is in response to the idea that the rookie is going to get the snot beat out of him. Here's some evidence that suggests this might not be the case. Don't take it so personally. I didn't say that the Steeler D wasn't any good.
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And SACKS Alone are the End all BE all of Rating a Defense... Right ?
I didn't say that. You did.
This is in response to the idea that the rookie is going to get the snot beat out of him. Here's some evidence that suggests this might not be the case. Don't take it so personally. I didn't say that the Steeler D wasn't any good.
I didn't say that. You did.
This is in response to the idea that the rookie is going to get the snot beat out of him. Here's some evidence that suggests this might not be the case. Don't take it so personally. I didn't say that the Steeler D wasn't any good.
Gotcha !! Well the Rookie is Very Mobile... so Blitzing can always be counter productive if the kid heads Up Field.
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Total Defense (YPG) Top 5
1. New York Giants 244.6
2. San Diego Chargers 246.2
3. Baltimore Ravens 257.8
4. Pittsburgh Steelers 289.0
5. Minnesota Vikings 289.2
Passing (YPG) Top 5
1. New York Giants 146.0
2. Baltimore Ravens 156.6
3. San Diego Chargers 159.8
4. Miami Dolphins 181.5
5. Carolina Panthers 182.4
Rushing (YPG) Top 5
1. Pittsburgh Steelers 62.2
2. Seattle Seahawks 72.8
3. Chicago Bears 78.6
4. New York Jets 79.0
5. Houston Texans 79.6
I would say the NY Giants have the #1 defense.
The steelers Wins came against
Atlanta ranks 10th in Total Defense
Tenn. ranks 22nd in Total Defense
Tampa Bay ranks 18th in Total Defense
The Steelers Lost to Baltimore who ranks 3rd in Total Defense
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Formerly Stone said:
Or..............................Defenses simply don't need to blitz or rush a non-existent offense?Just a thought!
I dont know where you are getting this. Watch film. We get blitzed just as much as anyone else. How many times did Seneca have to run out of the pocket?
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Formerly Stone said:
Hey kid..............that's because of the breakdowns of your O-line Joe Thomas is a good NFL player and he was beat like a red headed step child last week!Joe Thomas: A+ Probowl Tackle
Eric Steinbeck: Above Average Guard
Alex Mack: Reliable Sophomore Center with tons of potential
Floyd Womack: Veteran Right guard that can help out the center with double teams
Shawn Lauvao: Rookie Tackle with strong arms and great endurance
Tony Pashos: Seasoned Tackle with excellent hands
Whats your point?
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Formerly Stone said:
Hey kid..............that's because of the breakdowns of your O-line Joe Thomas is a good NFL player and he was beat like a red headed step child last week!That's weird because that was the same thing your red headed wife took on her snatch this month.
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Formerly Stone said:
My point?You said the Browns had the best O line in the NFL.................you're goofy!
We do. Remember, your team has the worst O line in the NFL, second to maybe Chicago. I am sorry to hear that.
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Formerly Stone said:
My point?You said the Browns had the best O line in the NFL.................you're goofy!
We do. Remember, your team has the worst O line in the NFL, second to maybe Chicago. I am sorry to hear that.
We do. Remember, your team has the worst O line in the NFL, second to maybe Chicago. I am sorry to hear that.
Our two recent lombardi's agree.
Regards...
... an'at
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We do. Remember, your team has the worst O line in the NFL, second to maybe Chicago. I am sorry to hear that.
Our two recent lombardi's agree.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Our two recent lombardi's agree.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Our 8 sack game in December agrees.
Regards...
... Ryan
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... an'at
Just out of curiosity, what is this? In a vacuum it looks like something in Arabic, but I assume its not that.
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... an'at
Just out of curiosity, what is this? In a vacuum it looks like something in Arabic, but I assume its not that.
... an'at
Just out of curiosity, what is this? In a vacuum it looks like something in Arabic, but I assume its not that.
I think it means retarted hick who bangs his sister in arabic. I could be wrong though.
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... an'at
Just out of curiosity, what is this? In a vacuum it looks like something in Arabic, but I assume its not that.
... an'at
Just out of curiosity, what is this? In a vacuum it looks like something in Arabic, but I assume its not that.
I looked it up and "Anat" is the ancient Semitic Goddess of War. So that could have been kind of cool....if that is what he meant by it. But that probably wasn't it.
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the Browns always talk trash but cannot ever back it up on the football field.
Who is impressed with Mangini and Holmgren?
Colt McCoy is a wimpy QB who has no business playing in the NFL.
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the Browns always talk trash but cannot ever back it up on the football field.
Who is impressed with Mangini and Holmgren?
Colt McCoy is a wimpy QB who has no business playing in the NFL.
the Browns always talk trash but cannot ever back it up on the football field.
Who is impressed with Mangini and Holmgren?
Colt McCoy is a wimpy QB who has no business playing in the NFL.
You are really a Peggy Lee kind of personality, aren't you? :
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Something I have been reiterating all season. The Browns have the best O line in the NFL.
Something I have been reiterating all season. The Browns have the best O line in the NFL.
Being a Ravens fan I would say the Browns O-line is #2
, but that is one heck of a stat in the original post. The way Peyton Hillis ran against the Ravens though I can see why they are such a good line. -
Something I have been reiterating all season. The Browns have the best O line in the NFL.
Being a Ravens fan I would say the Browns O-line is #2
, but that is one heck of a stat in the original post. The way Peyton Hillis ran against the Ravens though I can see why they are such a good line.Being a Ravens fan I would say the Browns O-line is #2
, but that is one heck of a stat in the original post. The way Peyton Hillis ran against the Ravens though I can see why they are such a good line.Being a Ravens fan has as much credibility as the Ravens team itself, none. To be a fan of a team that stole another team's organization means you are nothing more than a band wagoner with no morals, however that is self-explanatory
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Being a Ravens fan I would say the Browns O-line is #2
, but that is one heck of a stat in the original post. The way Peyton Hillis ran against the Ravens though I can see why they are such a good line.Being a Ravens fan has as much credibility as the Ravens team itself, none. To be a fan of a team that stole another team's organization means you are nothing more than a band wagoner with no morals, however that is self-explanatory
Being a Ravens fan has as much credibility as the Ravens team itself, none. To be a fan of a team that stole another team's organization means you are nothing more than a band wagoner with no morals, however that is self-explanatory
Don't be jealous that the Ravens and Browns have better O-lines than the Steelers. Try to stay on focus and not just cave into personal attacks. What would you like to say about O-lines, since that is what the thread was started for?
If the Steelers had an even half-way decent line would they need such a scrammbling QB like Pig Ben?
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Something to think about....
The Big, Bad Steelers Defense is tied for ninth with 11 sacks (through 4 games) for a total of 2.75 sacks per game
Did you realize that through five games, the Browns are tied for fifth allowing only 7 sacks through five games? They're third in the league having allowed only 14 hits on the QB. Only Mark Sanchez and Tom Brady have been hit less. Granted, those hits have proven costly but there is at least some objective evidence that the offensive line can pass protect for the rookie.
Furthermore, the Browns' pass defense is actually rated 18th vs the Steelers' 20th rated pass defense.
Something to think about....
The Big, Bad Steelers Defense is tied for ninth with 11 sacks (through 4 games) for a total of 2.75 sacks per game
Did you realize that through five games, the Browns are tied for fifth allowing only 7 sacks through five games? They're third in the league having allowed only 14 hits on the QB. Only Mark Sanchez and Tom Brady have been hit less. Granted, those hits have proven costly but there is at least some objective evidence that the offensive line can pass protect for the rookie.
Furthermore, the Browns' pass defense is actually rated 18th vs the Steelers' 20th rated pass defense.
What also needs to be considered is the Steelers have squared off against Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco and a surprising Josh Freeman. Colt McCoy isn't there with any of the 3, at least not yet. (I'm not going to throw the guy under the bus) Pittsburgh is going to force McCoy to win this game and the Browns have yet to face a pass rush like the one in Pittsburgh. The Ravens don't even compare, especially with the LB's on the outside. I'm not saying McCoy is going to be on his back all day but let's be realistic. The Pittsburgh defense is the pound for pound best defense in the league for a reason AND Ben is back to keep them off the field for extended periods of time.
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the Browns always talk trash but cannot ever back it up on the football field.
Who is impressed with Mangini and Holmgren?
Colt McCoy is a wimpy QB who has no business playing in the NFL.
the Browns always talk trash but cannot ever back it up on the football field.
You do realize that the people who post on this board are fans, not the actual Cleveland Browns football team. That means that no matter what we say here we don't get the opportunity to go on the field and ( back it up). Understood?
Who is impressed with Mangini and Holmgren?
I am. There are 32 of those jobs available in the world. I'm impressed with anyone who gets to that level in their profession.
Colt McCoy is a wimpy QB who has no business playing in the NFL.
You really need a life.
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