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  • NO flags either? On both hits he was making his body like a spear. If he was to break his neck someday for what he is doing out there, It would be hard to feel sorry for him.

    Maybe its because he is coached by some of the dumbest coaches in the sport of football who praise hits like that.

  • Harrison deliberately took out Cribbs, who hurt them with the TD's last year, and who would have run a lot of

    plays in the WildDawg to take the heat off McCoy.

    Then he deliberately took out the Browns leading wr.

    and not one flag was thrown in pittstinkburg.

    Official(s) have to be on the take or something. The NFL needs to suspend at least one referree now.

    Harrison is just another cheap shot artist.

    I cannot believe NEITHER flag was thrown.

    Harrison needs to be suspended. A fine does nothing.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Harrison deliberately took out Cribbs, who hurt them with the TD's last year, and who would have run a lot of

    plays in the WildDawg to take the heat off McCoy.

    Then he deliberately took out the Browns leading wr.

    and not one flag was thrown in pittstinkburg.

    Official(s) have to be on the take or something. The NFL needs to suspend at least one referree now.

    Harrison is just another cheap shot artist.

    I cannot believe NEITHER flag was thrown.

    Harrison needs to be suspended. A fine does nothing.

    Have you ever said a single thing in Browns Discussing that wasn't whining about the Steelers?.....You complain about the refs,but say nothing about your free first down of free td the refs gave you.

  • @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    I see what you did there. Rodney never said anything about Harrison's hit. He was talking in gneral $5,000 fines are nothing for people making millions.

    That's completely untrue. They showed the clips of the hit by the Falcons player on Jackson of the Eagles, then the clip of the helmet shot on Todd Heap, and also the hit by Harrison on Massaquoi. Then the question was asked, what can the league do to stop these hits on guys or does something need to be done. Harrisons words were that fines don't matter and they don't hurt, what hurts is when a player is suspended and these players need to be suspended for at least one game if not two games.

    Tony Dungy agreed with Harrison that there needs to be suspensions. I suppose if you live with your head up your ass like you do, you would just assume that they were only talking about the other two hits and not the one that included the Steelers player. It would seem to me that if the Harrison hit wasn't as bad (as steeler fans have claimed) then they wouldn't include it with the other two hits to the head in the games today.

    Keep living in denial...all I did was report exactly what was said during the NBC pregame show. If I was going to make things up, I would've said that they also have talked about the Cribbs it, but it was not mentioned and I even did hear on other games that the helmet to helmet hit does not exist on running plays.

    @mark-o said:

    That's completely untrue. They showed the clips of the hit by the Falcons player on Jackson of the Eagles, then the clip of the helmet shot on Todd Heap, and also the hit by Harrison on Massaquoi. Then the question was asked, what can the league do to stop these hits on guys or does something need to be done. Harrisons words were that fines don't matter and they don't hurt, what hurts is when a player is suspended and these players need to be suspended for at least one game if not two games.

    Tony Dungy agreed with Harrison that there needs to be suspensions. I suppose if you live with your head up your ass like you do, you would just assume that they were only talking about the other two hits and not the one that included the Steelers player. It would seem to me that if the Harrison hit wasn't as bad (as steeler fans have claimed) then they wouldn't include it with the other two hits to the head in the games today.

    Keep living in denial...all I did was report exactly what was said during the NBC pregame show. If I was going to make things up, I would've said that they also have talked about the Cribbs it, but it was not mentioned and I even did hear on other games that the helmet to helmet hit does not exist on running plays.

    Neither of them specifically mention either the hit on Heap or Harrison's hit. they were speaking in general terms. Nothingyou can quote them saying has them talking specifically about the two hits they played to open the segments.

    You also convienently left out the part were both Dungy and Harrison said helmet hits aren't intentionally done to injure, they are just how the are tought that make them happen so often. Your certianly remeber the part when Harrison said defenders start out aim at the chest to knock the ball out and naturally raise up a few inches making the hit at the hemet. And the part were Dungy confirmed players are tought to seperate the ball from the player. I just can't figure out why you would leave that part out.

    I never denied they said they both said suspensions are more effect then small fines. Hec, I even said that in my response so that right there is off topic criticism.

  • NO flags either? On both hits he was making his body like a spear. If he was to break his neck someday for what he is doing out there, It would be hard to feel sorry for him.

    Maybe its because he is coached by some of the dumbest coaches in the sport of football who praise hits like that.

    @mr.-t said:

    NO flags either? On both hits he was making his body like a spear. If he was to break his neck someday for what he is doing out there, It would be hard to feel sorry for him.

    Maybe its because he is coached by some of the dumbest coaches in the sport of football who praise hits like that.

    A spear is hitting with the tip top of your helmet. The only way that's possible is if the tackler's entire body is completely paralell to the ground. That's why it's called a spear, becuase your body is laid on and straight like a spear. Otherwise, the hit would be much closer to the facemask or forehead area....The name literally describes how the hit has to happen and you still get it wrong.....

  • @mr.-t said:

    NO flags either? On both hits he was making his body like a spear. If he was to break his neck someday for what he is doing out there, It would be hard to feel sorry for him.

    Maybe its because he is coached by some of the dumbest coaches in the sport of football who praise hits like that.

    A spear is hitting with the tip top of your helmet. The only way that's possible is if the tackler's entire body is completely paralell to the ground. That's why it's called a spear, becuase your body is laid on and straight like a spear. Otherwise, the hit would be much closer to the facemask or forehead area....The name literally describes how the hit has to happen and you still get it wrong.....

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    A spear is hitting with the tip top of your helmet. The only way that's possible is if the tackler's entire body is completely paralell to the ground. That's why it's called a spear, becuase your body is laid on and straight like a spear. Otherwise, the hit would be much closer to the facemask or forehead area....The name literally describes how the hit has to happen and you still get it wrong.....

    Even if he gets the description wrong, Harrison makes hits every game with hit face straight down. Not even you can say that is healthy for your neck and I agree with Mr. T. He knows why he is hitting like that and the day he breaks his neck hitting like that not only will I not feel remorse, but I will call up V8 for him because they are the only ones who are going to sponsor a vegetable.

  • free td? explain how a wide open receiver gives us a free td

  • sorry to break your "we would've won if the steelers weren't cheating" theory, but this also happened earlier to a QB and said after he tucks the ball he is considered a RB and helmet to helmet hits don't apply.

    this is what happens when you run the "wildfag" offense.

  • sorry to break your "we would've won if the steelers weren't cheating" theory, but this also happened earlier to a QB and said after he tucks the ball he is considered a RB and helmet to helmet hits don't apply.

    this is what happens when you run the "wildfag" offense.

    @gafreleets said:

    sorry to break your "we would've won if the steelers weren't cheating" theory

    i don't think anyone was implying that. you guys won. i'm not serving up any excuses. congats on the win. harrison is still a dick.

  • see, this is how i know all you pansies played golf or some shit in stainland. if you ever had played football you'd understand that with the speed of the game these hits are almost NEVER intended.

    man up, quit playing shuttleboard, and learn what it means to play football.

  • free td? explain how a wide open receiver gives us a free td

    @why-cant-we-win said:

    free td? explain how a wide open receiver gives us a free td

    Woodley was held and pulled down by his jersey. By rule thats a holding penalty. The refs ignored it and gave you guys the free td.

  • Dr. James Harrison had this to say (per the PD):

    "I thought Cribbs was asleep," said Harrison, the 2008 NFL Defensive Player of the Year. "A hit like that geeks you up -- it geeks everybody up -- especially when you find out that the guy is not really hurt -- he's just sleeping. He's knocked out, but he's going to be OK. The other guy, I didn't hit that hard, to be honest with you. When you get a guy on the ground, it's a perfect tackle."

    FYI, a hit to the head resulting in unconsciousness is a Grade III (worst type) concussion using AAN and Colorado guidelines. Thanks a lot you ass. You're such a sportsman.

  • alright. anyone, and i do mean anyone, ever play even HS football?

    did you ever have enough time to see a guy and actually have time to think "hey, i'm gonna hit this guy in the head"?

    i'll answer that for you.................................NO.

    the game is played at such a frantic speed, even at that level, that mostly you're just trying to get your hands on the guy.

    so quit acting like this is something Harrison could have even planned. he was trying to play the game like it's supposed to be played......fast, aggressive, and

    not for women.

  • That argument didn't help TJ Ward.

  • I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD

    @atenears said:

    I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD

    Wow ....Really ?? He was Catching a Ball and about to Run down-field with it . Is this not a Contact Sport ?

  • @gafreleets said:

    sorry to break your "we would've won if the steelers weren't cheating" theory

    i don't think anyone was implying that. you guys won. i'm not serving up any excuses. congats on the win. harrison is still a dick.

    @miktoxic said:

    i don't think anyone was implying that. you guys won. i'm not serving up any excuses. congats on the win. harrison is still a dick.

    my appologies. honestly i've heard so many "Steelers pay the refs, Steelers take roids, the NFL wants to see the Steelers win" theories that this started sounding like another one.

  • I don't think anyone is arguing about hitting helmet to helmet. We're just pissed we get called for the penalty when twice you guys didn't.

  • Harrison's hit on Massaquoi could have been flagged. The one on Cribbs would only be flagged if you thought he was leading with the crown. Cribbs was not a defenseless receiver. Massaquoi was.

  • Harrison deliberately took out Cribbs, who hurt them with the TD's last year, and who would have run a lot of

    plays in the WildDawg to take the heat off McCoy.

    Then he deliberately took out the Browns leading wr.

    and not one flag was thrown in pittstinkburg.

    Official(s) have to be on the take or something. The NFL needs to suspend at least one referree now.

    Harrison is just another cheap shot artist.

    I cannot believe NEITHER flag was thrown.

    Harrison needs to be suspended. A fine does nothing.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Harrison deliberately took out Cribbs, who hurt them with the TD's last year, and who would have run a lot of

    plays in the WildDawg to take the heat off McCoy.

    Then he deliberately took out the Browns leading wr.

    and not one flag was thrown in pittstinkburg.

    Official(s) have to be on the take or something. The NFL needs to suspend at least one referree now.

    Harrison is just another cheap shot artist.

    I cannot believe NEITHER flag was thrown.

    Harrison needs to be suspended. A fine does nothing.

    WOW... You guys are out of Control. Thats just Good Hard Football. Seriously the Kind that Make an Offense think twice about things.

  • @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    What a dirty player TJ is. He intentionally tried to injure that Bengal when he hit him helmet-to-helmet.

    didn't see the hit, but again........i can remember only like 3 dirty helmet to helmet hits and all 3 occured on a QB when one person was already tying him up and another came in from the side and actually had THE TIME to see it and make sure their helmets collided.

    other than that they are all unintentional.................the game is just played too fast for anything to be intentional.

  • @why-cant-we-win said:

    free td? explain how a wide open receiver gives us a free td

    Woodley was held and pulled down by his jersey. By rule thats a holding penalty. The refs ignored it and gave you guys the free td.

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    Woodley was held and pulled down by his jersey. By rule thats a holding penalty. The refs ignored it and gave you guys the free td.

    Defiantly a Hold... But NOT One Holding Call all day on Browns correct ?