WHO DAT
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alright so ive been here for a little while now and ive been tryin to feel you guys out. ive noticed the browns have a very solid team and the record doesnt reflect the actual team. ive noticed a relatively tough schedule and a running game that features one of the more freakish athletes in the league. ive noticed a defense that can stop offenses but an offense that likes to turn the ball over and punt a lot......probably why hodges is having such an awesome season
i know you guys have seen a lot on the saints lately because of the super bowl and everything and there are tons of things that im sure you guys are tired of hearing so im going to try and let you guys in on some things that dont really get said on TV or in the media
positives
- Drew Brees-arguably the best QB in the league right now
Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks-props to steinbach but these 2 guards are the best in the league
Chris Ivory-backup UDFA running back that is starting out of necessity
Malcolm Jenkins-OSU corner we drafted last season and moved to safety. has been playing very very well in sharpers absence
Jabari Greer-was 2nd last season in amount of catches allowed per target behind only revis. he is our best corner
Sedrick Ellis-2nd defensive tackle drafted in '08 behind glenn dorsey. has really improved this season and is having a pro bowl season
negatives
- Run Defense-teams can run the ball on us and if you commit to it, you will be pleasantly surprised
Pass Defense-teams havent really had to pass the ball on us but they absolutely can
Defensive Line-Will Smith and Sedrick ellis are good, remi ayodele and alex brown are eh.......so far this unit has looked very poor
Linebackers-we lost fujita to you guys and our starting will to injured reserve. now our starting sam is hurt and we are playing with a crew of sub par backups
Defensive Backs-injuries have crippled our secondary to where we are down to our Dime corner and our 3rd string safety. not to mention darren sharper hasnt played yet this season
Rushing Offense-we are a very good running team when we commit to it. aside from the tampa bay game we havent done that. we are pass happy
Canton do i need to remind you again
we are ranked 7th against the run..
Canton do i need to remind you again
we are ranked 7th against the run..
16th against the run.....problem is that we played 2 teams that suck at running the ball in back 2 back weeks and it skewed our ranking
carolina, atlanta, san fran, and minnesota had no problem running against us.......cleveland shouldnt have too much trouble either
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Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
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alright so ive been here for a little while now and ive been tryin to feel you guys out. ive noticed the browns have a very solid team and the record doesnt reflect the actual team. ive noticed a relatively tough schedule and a running game that features one of the more freakish athletes in the league. ive noticed a defense that can stop offenses but an offense that likes to turn the ball over and punt a lot......probably why hodges is having such an awesome season
i know you guys have seen a lot on the saints lately because of the super bowl and everything and there are tons of things that im sure you guys are tired of hearing so im going to try and let you guys in on some things that dont really get said on TV or in the media
positives
- Drew Brees-arguably the best QB in the league right now
Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks-props to steinbach but these 2 guards are the best in the league
Chris Ivory-backup UDFA running back that is starting out of necessity
Malcolm Jenkins-OSU corner we drafted last season and moved to safety. has been playing very very well in sharpers absence
Jabari Greer-was 2nd last season in amount of catches allowed per target behind only revis. he is our best corner
Sedrick Ellis-2nd defensive tackle drafted in '08 behind glenn dorsey. has really improved this season and is having a pro bowl season
negatives
- Run Defense-teams can run the ball on us and if you commit to it, you will be pleasantly surprised
Pass Defense-teams havent really had to pass the ball on us but they absolutely can
Defensive Line-Will Smith and Sedrick ellis are good, remi ayodele and alex brown are eh.......so far this unit has looked very poor
Linebackers-we lost fujita to you guys and our starting will to injured reserve. now our starting sam is hurt and we are playing with a crew of sub par backups
Defensive Backs-injuries have crippled our secondary to where we are down to our Dime corner and our 3rd string safety. not to mention darren sharper hasnt played yet this season
Rushing Offense-we are a very good running team when we commit to it. aside from the tampa bay game we havent done that. we are pass happy
positives
- Drew Brees-arguably the best QB in the league right now
Agreed...Peyton Manning is indeed fantastic, & Phillip Rivers is no slouch, but the Chargers really messed up by giving up on Brees. Drew is deadly accurate, which doesn't bode well for our Browns' seive-like coverage in the secondary by Wright & Brown.
For what it's worth, not that it's really important, but I always liked the Saints uniforms...second best in NFL behind the Brown & Orange of course.
Good luck Sunday- but I want the Browns pulling off the upset.
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Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
Not all Saints fans are from the New Orleans area. For example, I was born in South Dakota and moved to the northwestern corner of Louisiana as a kid back in 1967. This was the same year that the new NFL team, the Saints, also came to Louisiana. I have been a fan ever since.
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PREDICTION: Colt McCoy wins the game on a Hail Mary to Carlton Mitchell, alla Couch to KJ on Halloween night in 1999!!!
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Canton do i need to remind you again
we are ranked 7th against the run..
16th against the run.....problem is that we played 2 teams that suck at running the ball in back 2 back weeks and it skewed our ranking
carolina, atlanta, san fran, and minnesota had no problem running against us.......cleveland shouldnt have too much trouble either
16th against the run.....problem is that we played 2 teams that suck at running the ball in back 2 back weeks and it skewed our ranking
carolina, atlanta, san fran, and minnesota had no problem running against us.......cleveland shouldnt have too much trouble either
16th ..i think not.bro..were 7th and the browns are 23rd so how do you think Chris Ivory will do?...
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...;seasonType=REG
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16th against the run.....problem is that we played 2 teams that suck at running the ball in back 2 back weeks and it skewed our ranking
carolina, atlanta, san fran, and minnesota had no problem running against us.......cleveland shouldnt have too much trouble either
16th ..i think not.bro..were 7th and the browns are 23rd so how do you think Chris Ivory will do?...
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...;seasonType=REG
16th ..i think not.bro..were 7th and the browns are 23rd
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...;seasonType=REG
16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
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Zombo said:
What is it with you and Carlton Mitchell? Is he your new Corey Bridges?He might actually be on the active roster this week thanks to Roid Harrison.
Zombo
Mitchell/McCoy = Couch/KJ = WR/QB drfated in same class?
Stay with us Zippy, it's bad enough that we have to go over everything twice with Steeler fems.
Besides, I liked Carlton Mitchell first ... you'll come around this time next week.
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16th ..i think not.bro..were 7th and the browns are 23rd
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...;seasonType=REG
16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
sorry that link doesnt work..but even at 16 that aint bad...why do you always try and chip away at the Saints...i know you wanted Cody ..but the D has played way better than any of us thought....give em some props
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Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
yea haha bandwagon fan whatever......heard it all before
i grew up in canton ohio. became a saints fan when i was very young because i liked their uniforms. before i knew any players on any team i knew i liked the saints just because of the black and gold uniforms
now im an adult and my friends consider me the only true saints fan in ohio......you dont have to believe me but ive spent a lot of time proving people wrong
you are no different
my avatar is a picture of me as a saints fan in '07 during the hall of fame game.......all of my school pictures starting in middle school i have a saints shirt on. i never dressed up for school pictures.......instead i wore the same saints shirt for about 8 years in a row
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16th ..i think not.bro..were 7th and the browns are 23rd
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...;seasonType=REG
16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
Canton's right, Strato. We are 7th in passing defense and 7th in total defense, but 16th in rushing defense. That said, I think the Saints will have success in stopping the run this coming week by loading the box. The Brown's passing game does not appear to require any type of max coverage.
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16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
sorry that link doesnt work..but even at 16 that aint bad...why do you always try and chip away at the Saints...i know you wanted Cody ..but the D has played way better than any of us thought....give em some props
sorry that link doesnt work..but even at 16 that aint bad...why do you always try and chip away at the Saints...i know you wanted Cody ..but the D has played way better than any of us thought....give em some props
that was straight from the link you posted
it has nothin to do with who i wanted. im not chippin away at the saints.....only giving a true evaluation of what teams can expect from us
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Just out of curiosity CantonLegend, where in the New Orleans area did you grow up?
yea haha bandwagon fan whatever......heard it all before
i grew up in canton ohio. became a saints fan when i was very young because i liked their uniforms. before i knew any players on any team i knew i liked the saints just because of the black and gold uniforms
now im an adult and my friends consider me the only true saints fan in ohio......you dont have to believe me but ive spent a lot of time proving people wrong
you are no different
my avatar is a picture of me as a saints fan in '07 during the hall of fame game.......all of my school pictures starting in middle school i have a saints shirt on. i never dressed up for school pictures.......instead i wore the same saints shirt for about 8 years in a row
yea haha bandwagon fan whatever......heard it all before
Actually, we have another name for them....and possibly you....FRAK (with apologies to Battlestar Galactica it stands for FrontRunnerAssKisser)
i grew up in canton ohio. became a saints fan when i was very young because i liked their uniforms. before i knew any players on any team i knew i liked the saints just because of the black and gold uniforms
now im an adult and my friends consider me the only true saints fan in ohio......you dont have to believe me but ive spent a lot of time proving people wrong
you are no different
my avatar is a picture of me as a saints fan in '07 during the hall of fame game.......all of my school pictures starting in middle school i have a saints shirt on. i never dressed up for school pictures.......instead i wore the same saints shirt for about 8 years in a row
Though based on this story it is highly possible you might be a little different. Most FRAKs you see are Yankee/Celtic/Laker/Cowboy/Steeler/ or once upon a time Bulls/49er fans....the most famous of which is LeBron James. They chose teams because they glommed onto winners. If, indeed you became a fan of the Saints long ago, it wasn't because they were winning. I am not sure I am quite yet ready to declare you a non-FRAK, but at least the jury is still out.
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Though based on this story it is highly possible you might be a little different. Most FRAKs you see are Yankee/Celtic/Laker/Cowboy/Steeler/ or once upon a time Bulls/49er fans....the most famous of which is LeBron James. They chose teams because they glommed onto winners. If, indeed you became a fan of the Saints long ago, it wasn't because they were winning. I am not sure I am quite yet ready to declare you a non-FRAK, but at least the jury is still out.
oh man if i would've known i had to come to you for your approval i would've done it a long time ago
us fans from around the league have a nickname for guys like you.........dumb
ive read a lot about you on these boards and its clear you are the first to jump on and off someones bandwagon......not surprising i guess that you would jump on someone else and accuse them of doing the same thing
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16 New Orleans Saints 6 18 108 164 27.3 636 3.9 106.0 4 39T 34 20.7 3 0 2
Canton's right, Strato. We are 7th in passing defense and 7th in total defense, but 16th in rushing defense. That said, I think the Saints will have success in stopping the run this coming week by loading the box. The Brown's passing game does not appear to require any type of max coverage.
Canton's right, Strato. We are 7th in passing defense and 7th in total defense, but 16th in rushing defense. That said, I think the Saints will have success in stopping the run this coming week by loading the box. The Brown's passing game does not appear to require any type of max coverage.
7th in total D not bad...huh Canton...you have to admit thats way better than we all thought...We will try and make Colt beat us thats a givin..but i think we hold up well against the run and pass....40 yards givin up against Tampa is a good sign..
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Zombo said:
What is it with you and Carlton Mitchell? Is he your new Corey Bridges?He might actually be on the active roster this week thanks to Roid Harrison.
Zombo
I laughed so hard when i saw "roid harrison"....lol thanks for that
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Canton's right, Strato. We are 7th in passing defense and 7th in total defense, but 16th in rushing defense. That said, I think the Saints will have success in stopping the run this coming week by loading the box. The Brown's passing game does not appear to require any type of max coverage.
7th in total D not bad...huh Canton...you have to admit thats way better than we all thought...We will try and make Colt beat us thats a givin..but i think we hold up well against the run and pass....40 yards givin up against Tampa is a good sign..
7th in total D not bad...huh Canton...you have to admit thats way better than we all thought...We will try and make Colt beat us thats a givin..but i think we hold up well against the run and pass....40 yards givin up against Tampa is a good sign..
its a number strat. its a meaningless number......like power rankings
the number doesnt tell the whole story. just like our defensive ranking last year didnt tell the whole story. problem is that last year we were better than advertised and this year we are not as good as people think we are
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7th in total D not bad...huh Canton...you have to admit thats way better than we all thought...We will try and make Colt beat us thats a givin..but i think we hold up well against the run and pass....40 yards givin up against Tampa is a good sign..
its a number strat. its a meaningless number......like power rankings
the number doesnt tell the whole story. just like our defensive ranking last year didnt tell the whole story. problem is that last year we were better than advertised and this year we are not as good as people think we are
its a number strat. its a meaningless number......like power rankings
the number doesnt tell the whole story. just like our defensive ranking last year didnt tell the whole story. problem is that last year we were better than advertised and this year we are not as good as people think we are
I know Canton..but look at how we have stopped the long runs so far..i think even with all the injuries we have ..the D is better than last year..were not getting the TOs but i see improvement..i think that we have other issues that chap me more..Hartley!....numbers are just numbers..really i go by what see out there and the D is playing much better against the run...we would be 6 and 0 if those kicks were made...thats what is frustrating...i know we didnt play great in those games but we did have a chance to win ..and that wasnt all the Ds fault..
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its a number strat. its a meaningless number......like power rankings
the number doesnt tell the whole story. just like our defensive ranking last year didnt tell the whole story. problem is that last year we were better than advertised and this year we are not as good as people think we are
I know Canton..but look at how we have stopped the long runs so far..i think even with all the injuries we have ..the D is better than last year..were not getting the TOs but i see improvement..i think that we have other issues that chap me more..Hartley!....numbers are just numbers..really i go by what see out there and the D is playing much better against the run...we would be 6 and 0 if those kicks were made...thats what is frustrating...i know we didnt play great in those games but we did have a chance to win ..and that wasnt all the Ds fault..
I know Canton..but look at how we have stopped the long runs so far..i think even with all the injuries we have ..the D is better than last year..were not getting the TOs but i see improvement..i think that we have other issues that chap me more..Hartley!....numbers are just numbers..really i go by what see out there and the D is playing much better against the run...we would be 6 and 0 if those kicks were made...thats what is frustrating...i know we didnt play great in those games but we did have a chance to win ..and that wasnt all the Ds fault..
and we'd be 2-4 if hartley didnt make the kicks at the end of the games that he did make
theres always another side of a hypothetical response
saints are 4-2. browns are 1-5 and neither of the records reflect how they've played this season
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Though based on this story it is highly possible you might be a little different. Most FRAKs you see are Yankee/Celtic/Laker/Cowboy/Steeler/ or once upon a time Bulls/49er fans....the most famous of which is LeBron James. They chose teams because they glommed onto winners. If, indeed you became a fan of the Saints long ago, it wasn't because they were winning. I am not sure I am quite yet ready to declare you a non-FRAK, but at least the jury is still out.
oh man if i would've known i had to come to you for your approval i would've done it a long time ago
us fans from around the league have a nickname for guys like you.........dumb
ive read a lot about you on these boards and its clear you are the first to jump on and off someones bandwagon......not surprising i guess that you would jump on someone else and accuse them of doing the same thing
oh man if i would've known i had to come to you for your approval i would've done it a long time ago
us fans from around the league have a nickname for guys like you.........dumb
ive read a lot about you on these boards and its clear you are the first to jump on and off someones bandwagon......not surprising i guess that you would jump on someone else and accuse them of doing the same thing
Show me one F**king time that I have ever jumped on or off any bandwagon. I have been a Browns fan since the days of Jim Brown. Since before the New Orleans Saints were even a sperm cell. I have been an Indians fan since Rocky Colavito, Dick Donovan and Gary Bell, Willie Tasby etc.. I went 40 years with them never having seen a postseason game. There was one team whose bandwagon I did jump off: The Cincinnati Royals. Hell, you have probably never even heard of them. And it wasn't I who jumped, it was they. They moved to Kansas City. Then the Cavaliers were formed.
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