Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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and for those who don't know the difference between a tackle and a 'devastating' hit:
TACKLE
DEVASTATING HIT
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First, let me congratulate the browns on finding a keeper at QB. McCoy looks to be the first good QB the browns have had in about a decade. Secondly, every browns fan, including everyone on this board, gets down on their knees and prays every night that their team will find a linebacker like James Harrison. Period. And I know for a fact that every one of you would be singing the praises of such a player if he was a Brown. What Browns fan's heart doesn't go pitter-patter when they see footage of Jim Brown concussing players with forearm shivs? You all do. Admit it. What browns fan doesn't chortle at footage of Turkey Jones dropping Terry Bradshaw on his head? You all do. Admit it. Who among you didn't pump their fist when TJ Ward laid a stick on Mendenhall with 3 min left in a game that was already over? You all did. Admit it. So what's Harrison's crime?- The same crime that is committed on your team twice a year since forever. He was bigger and stronger, hit like a truck, and he wore black and gold.
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Per Adam Schefter Twitter: Reported on NFL Live - James Harrison fined $75,000 and as repeat offender.
Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10 -
Per Adam Schefter Twitter: Reported on NFL Live - James Harrison fined $75,000 and as repeat offender.
Per Adam Schefter Twitter: Reported on NFL Live - James Harrison fined $75,000 and as repeat offender.
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Per Adam Schefter Twitter: Reported on NFL Live - James Harrison fined $75,000 and as repeat offender.
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.
Homotron said:
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.He should have been fined $7,500,000. And suspended the rest of the year. xxxxing roided up criminal.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
meriweather's hit on heap was the most blatant and he shoulda been suspended.
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Homotron said:
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.He should have been fined $7,500,000. And suspended the rest of the year. xxxxing roided up criminal.
He should have been fined $7,500,000. And suspended the rest of the year. xxxxing roided up criminal.
lol
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c-dawg said:
Where are the "fair hit" chumps now?Let's hear it.
Sooo wait because the league fined him the hit was heinous? The league fines everything now. Once again frame by frame the Mo-mass hit it was his shoulder not his helmet that knocked Mo-mass out. How many of you have even played competitive football? You are taught to hit under the chin/upper mass. It's ingrained! very earlier in the competitive process. You then add in physics with speed, weight and burst and there isn't a TON a defender can do to alter body positioning. Ad a defender you don't want that guy catching the ball so you try and jar it loose. You all are a bunch of god damn babies. If A steeler got laid out and I watched it frame by frame and saw the evidence I'd say the same. It's the NFL, not two hand touch. Guys are going to get smacked. Funny against the Bengals most of you were applauding Wards hit on Shipley because it sent a message but when Harrison does it no dice? Make up your xxxxing minds. It's because two of your Browns got knocked out of the game. Flip the script and it's a non-issue. The hits weren't dirty and no I wouldn't sing a different song if it were Ward/Wallace/Are or someone else sidelined. IT's FOOTBALL!
Keep crying girls.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Per Adam Schefter Twitter: Reported on NFL Live - James Harrison fined $75,000 and as repeat offender.
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.
Homotron said:
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.Dunta Robinson $50,000 and same for Brandon Meriwether.
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Homotron said:
Hope a bunch of others catch heat, like Dunta Robinson for example.Dunta Robinson $50,000 and same for Brandon Meriwether.
Dunta Robinson $50,000 and same for Brandon Meriwether.
Yea I saw when I clicked the link, thanks for posting it either way.
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I think the whole league is a bunch of crooks . What happens to the blind assed, striped dummy , blind to any and all indiscretions by squeeler players ?????
He needs to get a job as restroom attendant
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I've never seen so much whining from Browns fans in my life. You'd think Harrison pulled out a gun and shot Cribbs and Massaquoi on the spot judging by the non-stop crying going on. If the Browns thought the shots were cheap, they should have taken care of it on the field. Are they afraid of the big bad bully James Harrison? Or that 5'11 200 lbs receiver that has been terrorizing Cleveland for a decade now? Cleveland hasn't had an intimidating player on defense since they came back in 1999. Rogers was the closest thing to that and was responsible for countless late hits on the QB that you guys all celebrated.
The thread starter acts all high and mighty, yet he had an avatar of Roethlisberger down on the ground and injured before changing it yesterday. A couple weeks ago everyone was defending and bragging about TJ Ward. You guys all loved it when the Browns knocked Ben out of the game a couple years ago and when he had his motorcycle crash. The majority of you are nothing but hypocrites. So keep on harping about the big bad Steelers. Nothing's going to change the fact the Steelers have dominated the Browns for the past decade, and will continue to do so because of their strong management. The Steelers have fielded perennial playoff contenders for close to 20 years now.
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Hey Steeler fems ... told ya so. Which one of you cliamed to have an NFL official in your back pocket and just knew for sure that he wouldn't receive a fine? Where is the 'my shit don't stink' attitude now? Douche.
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Pittsburgh Steelers LB James Harrison fined $75,000 for hit on Browns WR Mohamed Massaquoi
Published: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:45 PM Updated: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:48 PM
Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND -- Earlier in the day, Ray Anderson, NFL vice president of operations, admitted the game officials blew it by not penalizing Steelers linebacker James Harrison for his high hit on defenseless receiver Mohamed Massaquoi in Sunday's 28-10 Browns loss in Pittsburgh.
By afternoon, the other shoe dropped. Harrison was fined $75,000 for the hit by the NFL office.
Harrison's fine was the largest of those given out to players in an eventful weekend of devastating hits. New England safety Brandon Meriweather and Atlanta cornerback Dunta Robinson were fined $50,000 each for their illegal hits.
Harrison's fine was larger, reports said, because he was a repeat offender.
No players were suspended.
In an interview with Peter King of SI.com, NFL Vice President of Operations Ray Anderson said the hit on Massaquoi should have drawn a penalty.
"That call should have been made," Anderson said to King.
Had an unecessary rougness penalty been called on Harrison, the Browns would have had a first down at the Steelers' 41-yard line with 1:55 to go in the first half. They were down at the time, 7-3.
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First, let me congratulate the browns on finding a keeper at QB. McCoy looks to be the first good QB the browns have had in about a decade. Secondly, every browns fan, including everyone on this board, gets down on their knees and prays every night that their team will find a linebacker like James Harrison. Period. And I know for a fact that every one of you would be singing the praises of such a player if he was a Brown. What Browns fan's heart doesn't go pitter-patter when they see footage of Jim Brown concussing players with forearm shivs? You all do. Admit it. What browns fan doesn't chortle at footage of Turkey Jones dropping Terry Bradshaw on his head? You all do. Admit it. Who among you didn't pump their fist when TJ Ward laid a stick on Mendenhall with 3 min left in a game that was already over? You all did. Admit it. So what's Harrison's crime?- The same crime that is committed on your team twice a year since forever. He was bigger and stronger, hit like a truck, and he wore black and gold.
First, let me congratulate the browns on finding a keeper at QB. McCoy looks to be the first good QB the browns have had in about a decade. Secondly, every browns fan, including everyone on this board, gets down on their knees and prays every night that their team will find a linebacker like James Harrison. Period. And I know for a fact that every one of you would be singing the praises of such a player if he was a Brown. What Browns fan's heart doesn't go pitter-patter when they see footage of Jim Brown concussing players with forearm shivs? You all do. Admit it. What browns fan doesn't chortle at footage of Turkey Jones dropping Terry Bradshaw on his head? You all do. Admit it. Who among you didn't pump their fist when TJ Ward laid a stick on Mendenhall with 3 min left in a game that was already over? You all did. Admit it. So what's Harrison's crime?- The same crime that is committed on your team twice a year since forever. He was bigger and stronger, hit like a truck, and he wore black and gold.
dude we get it. no one on here like palomalu either but they don't bitch about how he plays the game. hines throws a couple of cheap shots twice a year and we get over it. harrison on the other hand is a goon=dirty player. obviously the nfl agrees with us in this theory as they called him a "repeat offender". after all the talk and evidence contrary to what you believe, how can you steeler fans defend the guy. yeah we want hard hitting defenders, but if the guy brings shame and undue attention to an already hot topic, sit down for a second and look at the way you play the game. quit launching off your feet and leading with your helmet.
as a former steeler said today: "the nfl has become the no tackle league BUT the all hit league," merrill hodge said. "what happened to fundamental tackling?"
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Hey Steeler fems ... told ya so. Which one of you cliamed to have an NFL official in your back pocket and just knew for sure that he wouldn't receive a fine? Where is the 'my shit don't stink' attitude now? Douche.
Hey Steeler fems ... told ya so. Which one of you cliamed to have an NFL official in your back pocket and just knew for sure that he wouldn't receive a fine? Where is the 'my shit don't stink' attitude now? Douche.
I also told the doubters. I know an NFL ref and he swore to me this fine.
Also just a side note: Darnell Docket got fined $5,000 for wearing his socks too high on Sunday. Now thats some bullshit.
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And the NFL choses not to penalize the referees for missing the blown call ?
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c-dawg said:
Where are the "fair hit" chumps now?Let's hear it.
Sooo wait because the league fined him the hit was heinous? The league fines everything now. Once again frame by frame the Mo-mass hit it was his shoulder not his helmet that knocked Mo-mass out. How many of you have even played competitive football? You are taught to hit under the chin/upper mass. It's ingrained! very earlier in the competitive process. You then add in physics with speed, weight and burst and there isn't a TON a defender can do to alter body positioning. Ad a defender you don't want that guy catching the ball so you try and jar it loose. You all are a bunch of god damn babies. If A steeler got laid out and I watched it frame by frame and saw the evidence I'd say the same. It's the NFL, not two hand touch. Guys are going to get smacked. Funny against the Bengals most of you were applauding Wards hit on Shipley because it sent a message but when Harrison does it no dice? Make up your xxxxing minds. It's because two of your Browns got knocked out of the game. Flip the script and it's a non-issue. The hits weren't dirty and no I wouldn't sing a different song if it were Ward/Wallace/Are or someone else sidelined. IT's FOOTBALL!
Keep crying girls.
Homotron said:
Sooo wait because the league fined him the hit was heinous? The league fines everything now. Once again frame by frame the Mo-mass hit it was his shoulder not his helmet that knocked Mo-mass out. How many of you have even played competitive football? You are taught to hit under the chin/upper mass. It's ingrained! very earlier in the competitive process. You then add in physics with speed, weight and burst and there isn't a TON a defender can do to alter body positioning. Ad a defender you don't want that guy catching the ball so you try and jar it loose. You all are a bunch of god damn babies. If A steeler got laid out and I watched it frame by frame and saw the evidence I'd say the same. It's the NFL, not two hand touch. Guys are going to get smacked. Funny against the Bengals most of you were applauding Wards hit on Shipley because it sent a message but when Harrison does it no dice? Make up your xxxxing minds. It's because two of your Browns got knocked out of the game. Flip the script and it's a non-issue. The hits weren't dirty and no I wouldn't sing a different song if it were Ward/Wallace/Are or someone else sidelined. IT's FOOTBALL!Keep crying girls.
BOOOHOOOO
Ok done crying, now go back and look at the Ward-Shipley hit and then look at the two hits Harrison laid out and first and foremost, WARD WAS FLAGGED AND PENALIZED FOR THE HIT...as well as fined. Harrison recieved no on field penalty, which is fine as long as the league is not gonna pick and choose which ones to call/not call. Second the severity of the hits shows that Ward led with his shoulder and Harrison led with his helmet BOTH TIMES. While the Cribbs hit clearly looks as if hes going for the ball, i find it amusing that the ball was tucked in the RIGHT HAND the whole time and Harrison hit from the left side, apparently thinking he could hit the ball with his helmet THROUGH a human body? LOL. The first i can attribute to the speed of the game, the second is clearly stated in the rule books as illegal. PERIOD. NFL rules not Browns. Steelers have always had a rep just like the Raiders of dirty hits....Even the league fined him more because of "Repeat Offender" so I bet Roger Goodell is a whiner too now?
Ps oh yeah so you don't have to look it up...repeat offender means he has done it more than once...and been busted for it more than once....
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