cbs reporting could be mangina's last week

[next2nothing]

@wrrebel said:

Are you serious, how many 1 and 5 starts do we need. Read the article it makes very good points. Do you not want a winner?

How many blow ups and rebuilds do we need?

Because if we keep calling for coach's heads after one year; that's exactly what's going to happen to this team.

[The330]

Dawgfanforever88 said:

Oh and by the way Mangini built that Jets team save for sanchez, but that was easy when everything else was set.

How so? Edwards, Holmes, LT, Greene, Scott, Leonhard, Cromartie weren't there. He gave them a damn good CB in Revis and a couple of good lineman. He also drafted Kellen Clemens who is terrible. Gholston too

[Steeler SChick]

@next2nothing said:

How many blow ups and rebuilds do we need?

Because if we keep calling for coach's heads after one year; that's exactly what's going to happen to this team.

The stains franchise is a career killer for coaches and players alike.

"Escape from dirty, dirty Cleveland".

Getting fired would be the best career move for mangina to date.

Regards...

... an'at

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[Buck The Frowns]

@wrrebel said:

Thank god. I think most of the browns fans who defended him enjoy being losers.

The guy sucks, daboll sucks....we have one win aany other coach would have us at 3 and 2.

If you still defend mangina then u must be a closet pitt fan

The guy has coached what, about 20 games total for the Browns? Even three full seasons is not enough to turn a team around. Gawd, I hope we don't start to see the old "Cowher sighted in Berea" threads again. If you keep perpetually tearing down and rebuilding you never get there.

Now, McCoy showed poise and maturity in the Steelers game, and put up impressive numbers against a good defense. He has potential, so if Mangini somehow messes up his development, THEN fire him.

[miktoxic]

wrebbel and gips sitting in a tree. k i s s i n g. first comes love. then comes marriage then comes grudin in a baby carriage.

[hoorta]

@wrrebel said:

Thank god. I think most of the browns fans who defended him enjoy being losers.

The guy sucks, daboll sucks....we have one win aany other coach would have us at 3 and 2.

If you still defend mangina then u must be a closet pitt fan

First off, as a Browns season ticket holder, I'm not a closet Steeler fan.

Hey, short attention span- any other coach? Want to bring back Crennell or Davis since you think Mangini sucks so bad? I'm sure Cowher or Gruden will quit their cush TV jobs right on the spot to take over the Browns mid-season- dream on.

You know what sucks? Pick sixes to the other team- I suppose Mangini threw them. That's two wins right there. You can't blow the coaching staff up every two years because the record doesn't reflect effort- or talent for that matter. The Steelers have had fewer coaches in the last 40 years than we've had in the last 10. And speaking of- Chuck Noll was 6-22 his first two years with the Steelers- I suppose by your win now logic, Rooney should have canned him for lack of results. I'll allow you to start bitching when the Browns have amassed talent to the level of the Cowboys- who incidentally have exactly as many wins as the Browns- and blame it on bad coaching. If any HC is gonna get canned soon, bet the ranch on Wade Phillips walking the plank first.

You heard me right- you need at least competitive talent before you're going to win consistently in the NFL. Fer instance the Browns were down by only 4 at halftime to the Steelers on the road with a rookie qb making his first start. How many Browns defensive players could start for the Steelers? I'll give you TJ Ward and maybe Hayden, and listen while the crickets chirp until you can come up with three others.

Holmgren, Heckert, and Mangini have IMHO done a terrific job of upgrading the talent level of the Browns- but there's still a long way to go. They got Hillis and a 5th round pick for a guy who's Denver's third string qb. BTW, Hillis has more receptions than either the departed clubhouse cancers Kellen Winslow or Braylon Edwards have. There's posters on this board that wanted to give DA yet anther chance- and he's riding pine in Arizona too.

So chill out and give the Man-gini a chance- he's got until the end of the year, whether you like it or not.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@wrrebel said:

Do me a favor and google mangini worst coach ever, you will find sports iliiustrated articles, to yahoo answwers. I stopped reading after the first 15. These arent blogs but sportss writers, take ur head out of ur asses.

You and GIPS are not real fans. I think your both trolls. Google Mangini? Grow up. Let Holmgren decide what is best. What is your problem?

[ballpeen]

The problem is some people don't have a clue.

I support Mangini and consider myself a pretty strong and loyal Browns fan. I will make 6 games this year, and am tinkering with the idea of going ahead and making the Thanksgiving weekend game to make it 7 games....can't do Christmas weekend and have already given those tickets to a friend.

[MudratDetector]

mangini is doing the best with the talent that he has available. you can tell a huge difference between the 09 and 10 teams. we might not be winning, but we are staying in games. we haven't given up 30 points in a single game all year. we gave up 30 pts in the first 3 games last year. this team is obviously going in the right direction. we had a couple of decent free agent pickups last year with fujita and watson and if mccoy shows more promise this year, there is a chance that we can attract even greater talent. i don't like to point fingers at the coaching staff of this team, but if anybody deserves to be flamed, it's ryan because his overconfidence in our secondary is leading to too many big plays and TDs. but i'm not going to go after ryan either because he obviously believes in his players and he has developed/is developing marcus benard. i'm done going after daboll. he makes some bonehead calls occasionally, but he's doing better. the package of plays that he put together for colt last weekend was great. it shows that daboll's offense can be executed properly with a decent QB. just think if we actually had some play making receivers.

the bottom line is that the media, for some reason, has an axe to grind with both mangini and cleveland. people have been calling for mangini's head since he came to cleveland. jamie duke's is like the Gips of the NFL network because anytime that the browns are mentioned, he goes on about how mangini is a terrible coach, etc. people need to realize two things: 1.) the media, for the most part, wants mangini and cleveland to fail and 2.) if the people in the media actually knew anything about the sport, they would be in the front office of a team instead on a screen or in-print.

[1 more season]

Yah, everybody knows that the real football knowledge is on message boards.

[ATENEARS]

I am a Mangini fag

[Kosar_For_President]

[miktoxic]

@kosar_for_president said:

he was 2 years behind me in the sandusky school system......heard he used to get his lunch money taken away from him from the stoners. i said in another post the guy suffers from the napolean complex. yeah, yell at me a 275lb DE and grab me by the face mask and see how far he wouldn't get planted into the ground/resthaven cemetary.

[Mr. T]

@wrrebel said:

Yeah worled out great for the titanic... let's not turn back

Ur idiots and in a year or two you will admitt it... I bet he doesn't make it thru the season..

U guys can go blow him

Dude put the bottle down and seek help.

[Kosar_For_President]

@miktoxic said:

he was 2 years behind me in the sandusky school system......heard he used to get his lunch money taken away from him from the stoners. i said in another post the guy suffers from the napolean complex. yeah, yell at me a 275lb DE and grab me by the face mask and see how far he wouldn't get planted into the ground/resthaven cemetary.

You'd be out a job first off. Because he's passionate he has a Napoleanic complex?

[DawgTracker]

@wrrebel said:

Thank god. I think most of the browns fans who defended him enjoy being losers.

The guy sucks, daboll sucks....we have one win aany other coach would have us at 3 and 2.

If you still defend mangina then u must be a closet pitt fan

Compare our roster to the teams we lost to. How many of our players would start on those teams? The talent is improving, the coaching is good. We will be making our mark soon.

[Unsympathetic]

To all those of you who bash Mangini:

Who out there is BETTER than him? Not sort of, not kind of, not maybe possibly, but unquestionably better? If the available coaches have the same ability as Mangini.. that, to me, says that Cleveland should not fire him and should stick with Mangini.

If he's going to get fired, then who is your proposal to replace him? I am tired of reading random posts asking for removal of Mangini because he "doesn't meet expectations." 31 coaches don't meet expectations each year, but that doesn't mean the coach deserves to be fired.

The talent in Cleveland is not good enough. The drafting in Cleveland has been worse than abysmal the past few years. Given that, this evaluation is really a question of reasonable expectations. Vince Lombardi would have had trouble winning 5 games with the squad of Mangini's first year. You can't just whimsically "expect" a winner, you have to take methodical, pertinent steps towards that goal.. and the truth is that until the hiring of Holmgren in 2010, the Browns have been rudderless as an organization since the trucks left for Baltimore.

[WRREBEL]

Dude, the difference between me and the rest of you is I'm use to winning. I'm a yankee fan and was calling for torres head in 2004. I have nothing personal against mangini but what has be proven? He will be fired so get your box of tissues out.

Do you understand the only reaso he wasn't fired last year is cause holgrem thinks a coach deserves more than a year. If you can't see he is going to get fired then don't comment again until it happens.

I would like a told ya so...

Everyone says that removing a coach is starting over, did you know that the changes og coaches actually averages 2 or more wins the first year

[steel88]

@wrrebel said:

Dude, the difference between me and the rest of you is I'm use to winning. I'm a yankee fan and was calling for torres head in 2004. I have nothing personal against mangini but what has be proven? He will be fired so get your box of tissues out.

Do you understand the only reaso he wasn't fired last year is cause holgrem thinks a coach deserves more than a year. If you can't see he is going to get fired then don't comment again until it happens.

I would like a told ya so...

Everyone says that removing a coach is starting over, did you know that the changes og coaches actually averages 2 or more wins the first year

1.) That explains a lot

2.) what are your sources that he will be fired?

[Gafreleets]

while switching coaches all "willy nilly" anytime a team faces adversity is a proven formula for a disfunctional franchise so is sticking with a crap ass coach.

mangina lost his head coaching position with the NY jets for a reason, and it wasn't because they felt the need to get rid of a elite head coach.

one of cleveland's problems as a franchise (and fanbase) is that they consistently feel they can find their messiah in other teams garbage piles.