Alex Mack Calls Out Harrison
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Alex Mack questions James Harrison
BEREA, Ohio -- Browns center Alex Mack says Steelers linebacker James Harrison led with his helmet on more than just the two plays that sidelined two of his Cleveland teammates with concussions.
Mack said Harrison, who was fined $75,000 for his hard hit on Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi and knocked out Josh Cribbs on a running play, speared running back Peyton Hillis when he was on the ground.
"The helmet-to-helmet with Cribbs is a little more innocent, to some extent," Mack said Thursday. "You're still leading with your head. It's a dumb move no matter what you do. If you watch the game film, [Harrison] was doing that to everyone on every play. People would be on the ground and he would try to spear them. There's a play on film where Peyton Hillis is tackled and he comes up and spears him. It's like you're being cheap, you're being dirty."
Mack said he is pleased with the media attention being given to the helmet-to-helmet hits and believes the league should do all it can to protect and educate players.
"A lot of the arguments right now are people are taught from Pee Wee football that this is how you play," Mack said. "Well, we need to change that. You can't be breaking your head. There are better ways to tackle. We're taught you're not supposed to spear with the top of your head."
Shortly before his hit on Massaquoi, Harrison blasted Cribbs, who ran the ball out of the WildDawg formation. Neither Cribbs nor Massaquoi has practiced this week. Harrison returned to practice on Thursday, one after he threatened to retire because of the league's crackdown on dangerous hits.
Cleveland coach Eric Mangini said Cribbs and Massaquoi are making progress and he's hopeful they can be back at practice on Friday. Both players have been around the team this week at the Browns' facility.
Cribbs, who also returns punts and kickoffs, was struck on the left side of his head by Harrison on a running play in Sunday's game. Massaquoi got drilled by Harrison after dropping a pass over the middle -- a vicious hit that resulted in the fine. The NFL ruled that the hit on Cribbs was legal.
Mangini has been pleased with the progress of rookie wide receiver Carlton Mitchell, who could get his first playing time this week at New Orleans.
Alex Mack has big balls being a NO 1 pick, he lead us to nowhere last year and is leading us to nowhere this year..........meanwnhile undrafted free agent James Harrison (who makes way less than half of Mack)has two rings and one he personally achieved by making a play of all times
maybe mack should offer half his lucrative salary to Harrison so he can still make more and convince Harrison to be easy on the Browns so he pay him ....this whole thread is stupid gone wild
Now fellow Browns fans stop eating crap and start dosing it out....................Mack is out of bounds................GET some BaLLS block somebody............make plays and win...........
and until such time keep your lame mouth shut
Alex Mack has big balls being a NO 1 pick, he lead us to nowhere last year and is leading us to nowhere this year..........meanwnhile undrafted free agent James Harrison (who makes way less than half of Mack)has two rings and one he personally achieved by making a play of all times
maybe mack should offer half his lucrative salary to Harrison so he can still make more and convince Harrison to be easy on the Browns so he pay him ....this whole thread is stupid gone wild
Now fellow Browns fans stop eating crap and start dosing it out....................Mack is out of bounds................GET some BaLLS block somebody............make plays and win...........
and until such time keep your lame mouth shut
First off Rich- get your facts straight about how much Harrison makes.
Pretty Good Coin for being a Thug, No?
& Ritchie, JH is all upset he can't spear opposing players anymore- because he's going to be donating a lot of that contract money to NFL Charities in the future. He knows the gig is up, because henceforth, the NFL is going to be paying extra special attention to his antics.
Sorry Rich- Mack is dead on- Harrison has been getting away playing like a thug for years. I suppose you want a jackass playing like this for the Browns? I don't.
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There's no sense arguing with steelers fans. Their players can do no wrong, even in the after rapes, roids, assaults, and drugs.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. No matter who tries to argue, that's the fact. DEAL WITH IT
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There's no sense arguing with steelers fans. Their players can do no wrong, even in the after rapes, roids, assaults, and drugs.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. No matter who tries to argue, that's the fact. DEAL WITH IT
There's no sense arguing with steelers fans. Their players can do no wrong, even in the after rapes, roids, assaults, and drugs.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. No matter who tries to argue, that's the fact. DEAL WITH IT
There are a dozen or say players that prove the $75,000 check was wrong. What's your point? both sides of the issue have evidence for support. You can't just ignore the other sides while saying all of use is proof.
To me this is bigger than one fine for Harrison. The only dirty hit this past weekened was the one on Heap. No other player should have been fined. I for one don't want a game where players get suspended for big hits, that aren't dirty......And before you start whining about Harrison's hit being dirty answer tyhis one question. Who has the more right and credibility to decide where the line for legal or illegal should be drawn, fans or the players who actually are effected by these rules.
When you try to say Steelers fans support Steeler players no matter what you come across as a whiny idiot. Must Steeler fans I know show more loyalty to the actual team as opposed to an idividual player. If a player is hurting the team in any way we want them dealt with accordingly.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
I may be in the minority here, but i'm not for giving the other team bulletin board material. IMO Mack just needs to keep his comments to himself or in house.
I'm still on the belief that this is football. The guys playing the game know full well what can happen to them. I like the big hits, but I think the officiating sucks and need to get more consistent on what they're going to penalize for.
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There's no sense arguing with steelers fans. Their players can do no wrong, even in the after rapes, roids, assaults, and drugs.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. No matter who tries to argue, that's the fact. DEAL WITH IT
There are a dozen or say players that prove the $75,000 check was wrong. What's your point? both sides of the issue have evidence for support. You can't just ignore the other sides while saying all of use is proof.
To me this is bigger than one fine for Harrison. The only dirty hit this past weekened was the one on Heap. No other player should have been fined. I for one don't want a game where players get suspended for big hits, that aren't dirty......And before you start whining about Harrison's hit being dirty answer tyhis one question. Who has the more right and credibility to decide where the line for legal or illegal should be drawn, fans or the players who actually are effected by these rules.
When you try to say Steelers fans support Steeler players no matter what you come across as a whiny idiot. Must Steeler fans I know show more loyalty to the actual team as opposed to an idividual player. If a player is hurting the team in any way we want them dealt with accordingly.
There are a dozen or say players that prove the $75,000 check was wrong. What's your point? both sides of the issue have evidence for support. You can't just ignore the other sides while saying all of use is proof.
To me this is bigger than one fine for Harrison. The only dirty hit this past weekened was the one on Heap. No other player should have been fined. I for one don't want a game where players get suspended for big hits, that aren't dirty......And before you start whining about Harrison's hit being dirty answer tyhis one question. Who has the more right and credibility to decide where the line for legal or illegal should be drawn, fans or the players who actually are effected by these rules.
When you try to say Steelers fans support Steeler players no matter what you come across as a whiny idiot. Must Steeler fans I know show more loyalty to the actual team as opposed to an idividual player. If a player is hurting the team in any way we want them dealt with accordingly.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. The NFL gave him this fine, I don't care what any of the steelers think or say, and to be honest I don't care what you say.
This is like saying oh well I got a speeding ticket for going 100mph in a 20 zone. All my friends said I should have never gotten that ticket, so it must be wrong!
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c-dawg said:
I heard Harrison tore a cat in half once.no. he shot squirrels with a .22 and blew up frogs with firecrackers. no wonder people from PA can relate to him. he throws out cans of colt 45 in his lawn and hides behind trees waiting for the cadillacs to stop so he can adjust his scope and perfect his hatchet throwing skills.
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I cannot disagree with a word you said. We spend our money on Mack not a RB or /QB or WR...........so it is his job to make us winners............SIMPLE AS THAT...........iinstaed of whining why he cannot block steeler d players
stand tall demand excellence and deter excuses ............what mack did was make an excuse for losing............NOT GOOD
I cannot disagree with a word you said. We spend our money on Mack not a RB or /QB or WR...........so it is his job to make us winners............SIMPLE AS THAT...........iinstaed of whining why he cannot block steeler d players
stand tall demand excellence and deter excuses ............what mack did was make an excuse for losing............NOT GOOD
You must've read a different article than I did. Where did Mack whine about not being able to block? Where did he make an excuse? I didn't read anything of the kind.
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why didn't mack call him out on the field and get him back then. to me, he sounds like the guy who says "hold me back, hold me back" and is back up while he says it.
I think the last time Mack tried getting back at someone, he got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against them. I would rather have him just complain at the end of the game and still play a good game, than take it out on the field.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
I think the last time Mack tried getting back at someone, he got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against them. I would rather have him just complain at the end of the game and still play a good game, than take it out on the field.Good point. I forgot about that.
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c-dawg said:
I heard Harrison tore a cat in half once.I about spit out my drink when I read that.
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c-dawg said:
I heard Harrison tore a cat in half once.no. he shot squirrels with a .22 and blew up frogs with firecrackers. no wonder people from PA can relate to him. he throws out cans of colt 45 in his lawn and hides behind trees waiting for the cadillacs to stop so he can adjust his scope and perfect his hatchet throwing skills.
no. he shot squirrels with a .22 and blew up frogs with firecrackers. no wonder people from PA can relate to him. he throws out cans of colt 45 in his lawn and hides behind trees waiting for the cadillacs to stop so he can adjust his scope and perfect his hatchet throwing skills.
It's one thing to hunt. I don't personally, but if others do, that's there thing, as long as they eat what they kill. But blowing up frogs with firecrackers or harming cats or dogs for the sake of doing it is absolutely sick! I wouldn't put it past him if he did do those things.
I have cats, and may God have mercy on the miserable f*** that would ever tried to do anything to harm them!
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There's no sense arguing with steelers fans. Their players can do no wrong, even in the after rapes, roids, assaults, and drugs.
There's a $75,000 check that proves the fact that Harrison's hits were wrong. No matter who tries to argue, that's the fact. DEAL WITH IT
There are a dozen or say players that prove the $75,000 check was wrong. What's your point? both sides of the issue have evidence for support. You can't just ignore the other sides while saying all of use is proof.
To me this is bigger than one fine for Harrison. The only dirty hit this past weekened was the one on Heap. No other player should have been fined. I for one don't want a game where players get suspended for big hits, that aren't dirty......And before you start whining about Harrison's hit being dirty answer tyhis one question. Who has the more right and credibility to decide where the line for legal or illegal should be drawn, fans or the players who actually are effected by these rules.
When you try to say Steelers fans support Steeler players no matter what you come across as a whiny idiot. Must Steeler fans I know show more loyalty to the actual team as opposed to an idividual player. If a player is hurting the team in any way we want them dealt with accordingly.
There are a dozen or say players that prove the $75,000 check was wrong. What's your point? both sides of the issue have evidence for support. You can't just ignore the other sides while saying all of use is proof.
To me this is bigger than one fine for Harrison. The only dirty hit this past weekened was the one on Heap. No other player should have been fined. I for one don't want a game where players get suspended for big hits, that aren't dirty......And before you start whining about Harrison's hit being dirty answer tyhis one question. Who has the more right and credibility to decide where the line for legal or illegal should be drawn, fans or the players who actually are effected by these rules.
When you try to say Steelers fans support Steeler players no matter what you come across as a whiny idiot. Must Steeler fans I know show more loyalty to the actual team as opposed to an idividual player. If a player is hurting the team in any way we want them dealt with accordingly.
OK, Spunky go watch the video the NFL sent to the teams, and keep on singing your erroneous tune. No more shots to the head, always been the rule. The Refs blew the call on the Massaquoi hit, and the League office said so. End of story. Notice the only thing Browns fans have said about TJ Ward is he led with his shoulder- and that doesn't matter anymore. Your boy can't headhunt anymore, sorry about that.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
As I said all along. Harrison is not a very good football player. He is no different than those booger nosed kids who played in slapstick with Paul Newman. The put him in toe hit dirty, that's it.Just watch how much his play degrades now that he has to play fairly.
Get me his agent's name and I will challenge the dumb bastard to a fistfight at teh end of the season.
Interesting point. Can the guy play decently now that he has to play it straight. I believe he could if he wants to.
More to the point is how well could he play without the security blanket of the Dick LeBeau system.
A number of LBs and other defensive players have left that system only to be exposed as mediocre.
A few others have done OK, maybe Joey Porter.
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Alex Mack needs to quit whining about dirty players and do something to stand up to them. He sounds like a child when he ought to smack them around, and act like a freaking man. The whole freaking team did nothing but clutch their skirts and cry about being abused. Fight Back! Hit Hard!
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Harrison, who threatened to retire after the NFL’s crackdown, was fined for his tackle of Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi(notes), who suffered a concussion. He also had a hard hit on former college teammate Joshua Cribbs(notes).
On Friday, Cribbs told his friend not to change the way he plays, and that Harrison’s job is to simply “knock people out.”
Cribbs, who played at Kent State with Harrison, believes he helped persuade Pittsburgh’s big hitter not to retire.
From: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflfines
I'm glad at least one Brown is an old school tough guy that likes to play football.
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Harrison, who threatened to retire after the NFL’s crackdown, was fined for his tackle of Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi(notes), who suffered a concussion. He also had a hard hit on former college teammate Joshua Cribbs(notes).
On Friday, Cribbs told his friend not to change the way he plays, and that Harrison’s job is to simply “knock people out.”
Cribbs, who played at Kent State with Harrison, believes he helped persuade Pittsburgh’s big hitter not to retire.
From: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflfines
I'm glad at least one Brown is an old school tough guy that likes to play football.
Harrison, who threatened to retire after the NFL's crackdown, was fined for his tackle of Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi(notes), who suffered a concussion. He also had a hard hit on former college teammate Joshua Cribbs(notes).
On Friday, Cribbs told his friend not to change the way he plays, and that Harrison's job is to simply "knock people out."
Cribbs, who played at Kent State with Harrison, believes he helped persuade Pittsburgh's big hitter not to retire.
From: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflfines
I'm glad at least one Brown is an old school tough guy that likes to play football.
Amen, players play and losers squawk while backing into the pay window.........right Mack???
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Harrison, who threatened to retire after the NFL's crackdown, was fined for his tackle of Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi(notes), who suffered a concussion. He also had a hard hit on former college teammate Joshua Cribbs(notes).
On Friday, Cribbs told his friend not to change the way he plays, and that Harrison's job is to simply "knock people out."
Cribbs, who played at Kent State with Harrison, believes he helped persuade Pittsburgh's big hitter not to retire.
From: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflfines
I'm glad at least one Brown is an old school tough guy that likes to play football.
Amen, players play and losers squawk while backing into the pay window.........right Mack???
Amen, players play and losers squawk while backing into the pay window.........right Mack???
BEREA, Ohio -- The NFL is demanding that Steelers linebacker James Harrison and others stop using their helmets as weapons.
And although he was the victim of Harrison's viciousness, Browns wide receiver Joshua Cribbs had a softer message for Pittsburgh's enforcer: "Don't change you."
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"You're a player, so play," Cribbs said he told Harrison, his former Kent State teammate and close friend. "Let refs ref. Let the NFL administration, let everyone do their jobs. If you get fined, just try to tailor yourself, but play the game. Don't try to change who you are."
Cribbs returned to practice Friday for the first time since suffering a concussion when he was knocked out last Sunday by Harrison, who moments later flattened Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi with a blow that earned him a $75,000 fine.
Massaquoi has not yet been cleared by Cleveland's medical staff and is unlikely to play Sunday at New Orleans.
Cribbs, who said he hasn't experienced any concussion-related symptoms since Monday, believes he will be ready to face the Saints.
This weekend, the league will be watching closely for head-high hits following a rash of nasty shots last weekend that resulted in commissioner Roger Goodell promising to impose tougher penalties against players who lead with their helmets on tackles.
Harrison, one of the primary offenders cited by the league, was so upset by the crackdown that he considered retirement. While some of his Pittsburgh teammates didn't take Harrison seriously, Cribbs did and urged him to stay in the game.
Cribbs knows that Harrison lowered his helmet to deliver a knockout blow.
It comes with the territory.
"In the game, you're not saying, 'Oh, I'm not going to hurt this guy or I'm not going to hit him like this'," Cribbs said. "He's like a heat-seeking missile. I have the football and he's targeting on me. He's not like, 'I've got to hit him properly, let me aim at his legs.' He's just trying to get me down any means possible. And I would do the same. I came at people like that as well, heat-seeking missiles."
Cribbs believes he had an impact on Harrison's decision to return to the field after a one-day absence to consider his future.
"I think it meant a lot for him to hear me tell him, 'Hey man, go out there and play and ball out.' And I told him as well, 'Remember, we play ya'll again, so don't think I forgot. We're boys off the field, but when we step on that field, I don't know you, dog'."
Cribbs said he didn't suffer any memory loss from the Harrison hit, which came after the Browns' Pro Bowler took off on a running play out of the WildDawg formation. As he neared the line of scrimmage, Cribbs was being wrapped up by Pittsburgh's LaMarr Woodley when Harrison came flying in from the side.
The league said the shot was legal -- a claim the Browns dispute -- and Cribbs found it within reasonable limits as well.
"I had the ball and was going down and he came in to clean me up," Cribbs said. "It's his job to try to put me out of the game. If I was a linebacker, you try to knock guys out. That's what linebackers try to do for the most part. You have to follow the rules, but that's their job."
Harrison was branded a villain by Cleveland fans, and he became the poster child this week for the league's attempt to reduce head injuries.
Browns center Alex Mack said Harrison was using his helmet the entire game -- and not just on the publicized hits that rocked Cribbs and Massaquoi.
"If you watch the game film, [Harrison] was doing that to everyone on every play," Mack told The Associated Press. "People would be on the ground and he would try to spear them. There's a play on film where [running back] Peyton Hillis is tackled and he comes up and spears him. It's like you're being cheap, you're being dirty."
Cribbs said he respects Mack's opinion, but that if Harrison wore an orange helmet and not the Steelers' black and gold, the perception would be different.
"If [Harrison] played for our team we'd be applauding his efforts," Cribbs said. "I'm just trying to be honest. If he were on our team we'd be rallying behind him, just like his team is doing for him. He plays to knock people out. Wouldn't you want a linebacker like that on your team?"
Cribbs won't change his game because of the league's stricter stance on helmet hits. He believes last weekend's rash of hard knocks around the league was "a fluke."
He appreciates what's being done to protect players' safety, but wonders if the league hasn't gone too far, too quickly.
"They're making the right strides in trying to protect players but at the same time, the NFL's walking a fine line between just changing the game and changing players' abilities," he said. "This is the NFL. Everybody can't play and everybody's not able to play. You have to be able to take these hits and get up. That's why we get paid the way we do. It's a tough sport."
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Harrison is just to stupid. He can't play unless he can use his helmet. What a biotch. A biotch on roids that is
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
As I said all along. Harrison is not a very good football player. He is no different than those booger nosed kids who played in slapstick with Paul Newman. The put him in toe hit dirty, that's it.Just watch how much his play degrades now that he has to play fairly.
Get me his agent's name and I will challenge the dumb bastard to a fistfight at teh end of the season.
Which one, Harrison or his agent? Harrison's agent is Bill Parise. I can get you in contact with him, too. This I have got to see.
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Harrison is just to stupid. He can't play unless he can use his helmet. What a biotch. A biotch on roids that is
Harrison is just to stupid. He can't play unless he can use his helmet. What a biotch. A biotch on roids that is
hear the roid thing about harrison too much without even a lick of proof. wich just makes you look stupid. find even a shred of proof (anyone) or stop saying this trash.
funny thing is, you can't bitch about this anymore when even cribbs say's "don't change the way you play, knock people out" (paraphrased).
mack, if you had even one ball rollin around in your scrotum you would have dealt with him on the field. just ask the legendary Jack Lambert how he dealt
with players he thought were cheap shotting his teamates. man up or go play golf.
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