cbs reporting could be mangina's last week
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I am just going to say all the other coaches were removed too . Helped a hell of a lot huh ??????
Just say no
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I'm sorry reality is lame for you.
Please name the coach you would replace Mangini with. Please state your plans for getting to the Super Bowl next year with the current roster plus one draft.
There are plenty of options . Do you think Mangini is the best option for this team? They couldn't build on last years finish and since he has a 5 year plan should we expect 3 1/2 more years of losing?
There are plenty of options .
Who? Stop avoiding the question. Name someone. You want to make a change? Then man up and take responsibility for the idiotic coach you would replace Mangini with.
Teams have coaches. If you want to fire someone, you clearly have someone else in mind for the job. If you don't, then your proposal is worthless. The essence of the firing of one coach is the naming of the replacement.. without the replacement, you don't consider firing the first coach at all.
Do you think Mangini is the best option for this team?
Doesn't matter. Consistency is better than churning coaches with no goal. Unless there is a measurably better option available, picking something and sticking to it is better than whimsically looking for the next big thing. If there is nobody better -- if there was, you would have named him long ago - then why do you want to fire the coach?
News flash: You do not need to always be perceived as "doing something." If there is nobody better, then sit on your hands.
And to your specific question, I think Holmgren is the best thing to happen to the Browns since the trucks left for Baltimore. The coach he names is the coach I will support.
They couldn't build on last years finish
I could not disagree with you more.
Your expectations are nonsense.
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There are plenty of options .
Who? Stop avoiding the question. Name someone. You want to make a change? Then man up and take responsibility for the idiotic coach you would replace Mangini with.
Teams have coaches. If you want to fire someone, you clearly have someone else in mind for the job. If you don't, then your proposal is worthless. The essence of the firing of one coach is the naming of the replacement.. without the replacement, you don't consider firing the first coach at all.
Do you think Mangini is the best option for this team?
Doesn't matter. Consistency is better than churning coaches with no goal. Unless there is a measurably better option available, picking something and sticking to it is better than whimsically looking for the next big thing. If there is nobody better -- if there was, you would have named him long ago - then why do you want to fire the coach?
News flash: You do not need to always be perceived as "doing something." If there is nobody better, then sit on your hands.
And to your specific question, I think Holmgren is the best thing to happen to the Browns since the trucks left for Baltimore. The coach he names is the coach I will support.
They couldn't build on last years finish
I could not disagree with you more.
Your expectations are nonsense.
Who? Stop avoiding the question. Name someone. You want to make a change? Then man up and take responsibility for the idiotic coach you would replace Mangini with.
Teams have coaches. If you want to fire someone, you clearly have someone else in mind for the job. If you don't, then your proposal is worthless. The essence of the firing of one coach is the naming of the replacement.. without the replacement, you don't consider firing the first coach at all.
Doesn't matter. Consistency is better than churning coaches with no goal. Unless there is a measurably better option available, picking something and sticking to it is better than whimsically looking for the next big thing. If there is nobody better -- if there was, you would have named him long ago - then why do you want to fire the coach?
News flash: You do not need to always be perceived as "doing something." If there is nobody better, then sit on your hands.
And to your specific question, I think Holmgren is the best thing to happen to the Browns since the trucks left for Baltimore. The coach he names is the coach I will support.
I could not disagree with you more.
Your expectations are nonsense.
Calm down tough guy.
1st off all I didn't say fire the coach. I don't like revolving coaches either. I just don't think he's a good coach. I think Holmgren is great! Best guy the Browns have had upstairs for a long long time.
You want a name so bad. How about Mike Shanahan son Kyle. There a name.
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How so? Edwards, Holmes, LT, Greene, Scott, Leonhard, Cromartie weren't there. He gave them a damn good CB in Revis and a couple of good lineman. He also drafted Kellen Clemens who is terrible. Gholston too
OFFENSE
• Drafted under Mangini: Left tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Round 1, 2006; center Nick Mangold, Round 1, 2006.
• Acquired under Mangini: Left guard Alan Faneca, free agent, 2008; right tackle Damien Woody, free agent, 2008; running back Thomas Jones, trade with Bears, 2007; fullback Tony Richardson, free agent, 2008
• There before Mangini: Wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery, drafted in 2004; right guard Brandon Moore, undrafted free agent in 2003
DEFENSE
• Drafted under Mangini: CB Darrelle Revis, Round 1, 2007.
• Acquired under Mangini: Linebacker Calvin Pace, undrafted free agent in 2008 ; linebacker David Harris, undrafted free agent in 2007.
• There before Mangini: Linebacker Bryan Thomas, Round 1 pick in 2002; nose tackle Sione Pouha, Round 3 draft pick in 2005; safety Kerry Rhodes, Round 4 draft pick in 2005.
Quick edit
Davis harris Pro-Bowl was NOT a UFA. He was drafted (#47) By Mangini out of Nichigan
2L.Washington Pro-Bowl. He was drafted (#117) by Mangini in '6.
3)D Lowery,The biggest Ballhawk on the team. He was drafted (114) by Mangini.
How about THIRTY (30) players ALL SIGNED or DRAFTED during Manginis Three year LEADERSHIP?
Including B. Smith. You know, the B. Smith that broke The Bengals back with those TWO play off WildDawg runs?
Dawgfanforever88 said:
OFFENSE• Drafted under Mangini: Left tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Round 1, 2006; center Nick Mangold, Round 1, 2006.
• Acquired under Mangini: Left guard Alan Faneca, free agent, 2008; right tackle Damien Woody, free agent, 2008; running back Thomas Jones, trade with Bears, 2007; fullback Tony Richardson, free agent, 2008
• There before Mangini: Wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery, drafted in 2004; right guard Brandon Moore, undrafted free agent in 2003
DEFENSE
• Drafted under Mangini: CB Darrelle Revis, Round 1, 2007.
• Acquired under Mangini: Linebacker Calvin Pace, undrafted free agent in 2008 ; linebacker David Harris, undrafted free agent in 2007.
• There before Mangini: Linebacker Bryan Thomas, Round 1 pick in 2002; nose tackle Sione Pouha, Round 3 draft pick in 2005; safety Kerry Rhodes, Round 4 draft pick in 2005.
Quick edit
Davis harris Pro-Bowl was NOT a UFA. He was drafted (#47) By Mangini out of Nichigan
2L.Washington Pro-Bowl. He was drafted (#117) by Mangini in '6.
3)D Lowery,The biggest Ballhawk on the team. He was drafted (114) by Mangini.
How about THIRTY (30) players ALL SIGNED or DRAFTED during Manginis Three year LEADERSHIP?
Including B. Smith. You know, the B. Smith that broke The Bengals back with those TWO play off WildDawg runs?
You forgot getting Kris Jenkins to agree to a trade from Carolina.
Eric Mangini had two of three winning seasons in NY and the second one (2008) was the one that got him fired because they needed a scapegoat and Woody Johnson needed to sell PSLs to his new stadium. When he was 8-3 and had just beaten both NE and an undefeated Tennessee on the road they were talking extension. Then came Hurricane Brett.
Next time you think he can't coach, realize that he's beaten some of the best coaches out there and the last time he beat Brady and Belichick...he baited Belichick and so badly outcoached him it wasn't even funny.
To quote Pat Kirwan before last season "Eric Mangini has great football thoughts. He just needs players good enough to execute those thoughts.". How many of the 25 guys Eric Mangini cut in camp last year are still on active rosters in the league? I'll give you a hint: 0. THAT is how bad the team he inherited was.
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We cannot continue to keep changing coaches, and rebuilding! By continuing to do so we are only making a mockery of ourselves and a great tradition, and therefore giving Steelers fans more ammo to use against us. Unless we can somehow get Bill Cowher, or Marty Schottenheimer, which I doubt would happen. Other than that, then I don't even think I would like to entertain a notion of blowing it up yet again, and getting another coach! I most certainly don't want another "coordinator in training" either!
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Just out of curiosity, where in the New York area do you live or grew up in? And being from NY how did you become a Browns fan?
I grew up in albany and spent sometime in syracuse. Also lived in new jersey for a bit I am a huge huricane fan and loved bernie kosar and met michael dean perry.
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Wrrebel needs to be band from starting topics.
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What makes anyone think Cower is a better or smarter HC than Mangini.
Yes he has had more success...BUT...that is because he has had more years and with a better organization
Stability, Stability, Stability is what makes a franchise great
Leadership is what makes players want to play for them
Switching coaches every 3 years is why The Browns have been a disaster since the 1999 return.
Leave Mangini alone
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Matt Millen wasn't a coach.
Also, how do you make the argument that any other coach would be 3-3? Do you just ignore the possibility that the reason the Browns were even in a position to win games is because of good coaching? John Fox is about the only coach that might be available that is a better option than Mangini.
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I never said matt was a coach, he was a terrible gm. Listen you homo mangina lovers go blow him. When all is said and done he will be gone. Some of you will start a dumb post, mangini has the last laugh...
Please tell me what he has done? Please tell me why any expert knows he coulnt coach a pee wee team.
I'm done talking, ur blind...
I do wish u all the best, its nothing personal for me. I just see a guy who lacks what it takes to be coach. I just know he will be gone after ths year so all of this is pointless.
I bet teams will be knocking down his door to hire him.
Honest question, iwould any other team hire mangina as a coach?
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Of course Mangini will leave the Browns some day.
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Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
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Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
So what happens when Mangini isnt fired and this football team starts winning a lot of games? Are you going to eat a few helpings of crow, or are you going to disappear for a while and then reappear and act like you were a fan of mangini's all the time? My guess would be the second option.
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Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
Yeah, I'm sure Mike Holmgren took the SI article into account when he decided to retain Mangini. The easy way out would have been to fire him on the spot.
Shit, don't even get me started about the Yankees. You really ought to start rooting for the Cowboys or Steelers. You got a communicating neuron or two? The Yankees are one of the reasons- and Steinbrenner by extension another are the reason MLB is second fiddle to the NFL, and if they're not careful, the NBA. You can't buy a pennant every year, but you sure as hell can buy yourself a winning team, and the rest of America is sick of it. With competitive balance, a hard cap, and revenue sharing Sabathia and Lee would still be on the Indians, and A-Roid would still be in Texas (who happened to beat the Yanks without him). Yeah I'm done with baseball until they figure out a way to level the playing field- so the Yankees win every year because they can outspend everyone else, and buy up the top talent whoop-te-doo.
If your only criteria of canning a coach is wins-losses as I said earlier Wade Phillips should have been fired yesterday, if not last year. The Chargers, and Vikes are under performing too- so I suppose Childress and Norv Turner (now there's a reject for ya)- need to hit the road while we're at it.
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Sports illustrated ranked mangini the worst hire in 25 years last year...
Wow, now there something to hang. There hat on. Oh but at least he has proven them wrong.
Yeah, I'm sure Mike Holmgren took the SI article into account when he decided to retain Mangini. The easy way out would have been to fire him on the spot.
Shit, don't even get me started about the Yankees. You really ought to start rooting for the Cowboys or Steelers. You got a communicating neuron or two? The Yankees are one of the reasons- and Steinbrenner by extension another are the reason MLB is second fiddle to the NFL, and if they're not careful, the NBA. You can't buy a pennant every year, but you sure as hell can buy yourself a winning team, and the rest of America is sick of it. With competitive balance, a hard cap, and revenue sharing Sabathia and Lee would still be on the Indians, and A-Roid would still be in Texas (who happened to beat the Yanks without him). Yeah I'm done with baseball until they figure out a way to level the playing field- so the Yankees win every year because they can outspend everyone else, and buy up the top talent whoop-te-doo.
If your only criteria of canning a coach is wins-losses as I said earlier Wade Phillips should have been fired yesterday, if not last year. The Chargers, and Vikes are under performing too- so I suppose Childress and Norv Turner (now there's a reject for ya)- need to hit the road while we're at it.
If your only criteria of canning a coach is wins-losses as I said earlier Wade Phillips should have been fired yesterday, if not last year. The Chargers, and Vikes are under performing too- so I suppose Childress and Norv Turner (now there's a reject for ya)- need to hit the road while we're at it.
Actually, Childress may be the worst coach in the NFL and Phillips isn't much better.
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