Who is untouchable?
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I would think you have to keep Steinbech as well as Jackson and Poole. How about the young guys that haven't had a chance yet to get onto the field. Guys like Hall, Bell and Rucker.
I don't think you blow this team up. You might be better off listing the guys you don't want to come back.
My definate choices.
McGinest
Davis
S. Smith
Cousins
Shaffer
Stallworth
I don't think I resign S. Jones for what he wants and I would like to see the Center position upgraded. Fraley was a good stop gap but, his time is about over. I also would have to consider an upgrade at RB but it is not the top priority. If you want to win consistantly you have to upgrade this defense. I also would love to see a consistant #2 receiver like a T.J. Housyourmama.
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I would think you have to keep Steinbech as well as Jackson and Poole. How about the young guys that haven't had a chance yet to get onto the field. Guys like Hall, Bell and Rucker.
I don't think you blow this team up. You might be better off listing the guys you don't want to come back.
My definate choices.
McGinest
Davis
S. Smith
Cousins
Shaffer
Stallworth
I don't think I resign S. Jones for what he wants and I would like to see the Center position upgraded. Fraley was a good stop gap but, his time is about over. I also would have to consider an upgrade at RB but it is not the top priority. If you want to win consistantly you have to upgrade this defense. I also would love to see a consistant #2 receiver like a T.J. Housyourmama.
I would think you have to keep Steinbech as well as Jackson and Poole. How about the young guys that haven't had a chance yet to get onto the field. Guys like Hall, Bell and Rucker.
I don't think you blow this team up. You might be better off listing the guys you don't want to come back.
My definate choices.
McGinest
Davis
S. Smith
Cousins
Shaffer
Stallworth
I don't think I resign S. Jones for what he wants and I would like to see the Center position upgraded. Fraley was a good stop gap but, his time is about over. I also would have to consider an upgrade at RB but it is not the top priority. If you want to win consistantly you have to upgrade this defense. I also would love to see a consistant #2 receiver like a T.J. Housyourmama.
agree... about Fraley... he keeps getting bulldozed... question??????... did anybody ever sign LeCharles, or is he soup?
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Yea kind of forgot to mention Steinbach, Jones if he is more realistic. Fraley, keep him but look for an upgrade at the same time, and yes, Rucker, Bell, and Hall need more time to see if they are able to cut the mustard.
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I guess it all boils down to alot of what ifs. On paper we are talented, 0-3 is a tough hole to climb out of, all the early season injuries affected the flow of this team right out of the gate.
Without blowing up the team, there definately needs to be some housecleaning done. We want so badly for all the peices to work only to realize that some of the peices are playing the same game the front office is playing, save their ass. Me,me,me.
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@shepwrite said:
Off the top of my head, assuming we stay in a 3-4, we'll have a new starting ILB, a new starting DE, and a new starting safety.On offense, I think we'll have a new starting WR, some tweaking on the line, Quinn at QB, and maybe a new tailback.
I think the new coach will play a more aggressive defense and more of a West Coast style offense.
Are you saying DE meaning OLB, because we have a decent group in R. Smith, Williams, Leonard. The only guy I see that is all talk and no game is S. Smith. Along with Rogers, they have done fairly well this year. It is the lack of pass rush from Wimbley and McGinest and the poor play of Davis that have hurt this defense. The Browns play a two gap system, which I don't really care for, so it is all on the LBs. Also, in the 2 gap scheme of the 3-4 you need a extremely active, big hitting SS. Jones has been hurt this year and has had a very poor season.
Personally, I would rather switch to a 4-3 or at least a one gap 3-4 so our DL can have an impact. Either way we need a ILB and a corner rusher. If we switch to the 4-3, Orapko would be perfect and Wimbley can put on 10 or 15 lbs and switch to WSDE where he may perform a lot better. Rogers and Williams are better suited to a 4-3, as is Wimbley, and D. Jackson is a prototypical MLB in the 4-3. So, I would rather have a DE and OLB and move to the 4-3.
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You want a center - go get AQ Shipley from Penn State. He only won the Rimington Award this past week.
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Untouchable? Seriously, nobody on this team should have that status. Based on the 2008 season (so far), only Dawson and Pontbriand have been consistent contributors. No GN is going to offer you anything for these special teamers, but if there is a dummy out there, i'd take the call and listen.
The next notch down is Thomas, Cribbs, and Rogers. Again, i'd take the call on anyone on the roster.
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Untouchable? Seriously, nobody on this team should have that status. Based on the 2008 season (so far), only Dawson and Pontbriand have been consistent contributors. No GN is going to offer you anything for these special teamers, but if there is a dummy out there, i'd take the call and listen.
The next notch down is Thomas, Cribbs, and Rogers. Again, i'd take the call on anyone on the roster.
Untouchable? Seriously, nobody on this team should have that status. Based on the 2008 season (so far), only Dawson and Pontbriand have been consistent contributors. No GN is going to offer you anything for these special teamers, but if there is a dummy out there, i'd take the call and listen.
The next notch down is Thomas, Cribbs, and Rogers. Again, i'd take the call on anyone on the roster.
We might be brothers...I don't think anyone is "untouchable".
There isn't a person on the roster I wouldn't trade for a good deal.....as you said...Thomas is close, as is Rogers.
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All frustration aside, who do you think is untouchable(trade, cut etc.).
Joe Thomas
Ryan the longsnapper
Josh Cribbs
Steve Heiden
Eric Wright
Brady Quinn
Phil Dawson
Rogers
thats a start
All frustration aside, who do you think is untouchable(trade, cut etc.).
Joe Thomas
Ryan the longsnapper
Josh Cribbs
Steve Heiden
Eric Wright
Brady Quinn
Phil Dawson
Rogers
thats a start
Joe Thomas needs to give 1/2 his money back or be released. He is a fat ass who routinely gets manhandled. He got manhandled versus the Colts/
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I would think you have to keep Steinbech as well as Jackson and Poole. How about the young guys that haven't had a chance yet to get onto the field. Guys like Hall, Bell and Rucker.
I don't think you blow this team up. You might be better off listing the guys you don't want to come back.
My definate choices.
McGinest
Davis
S. Smith
Cousins
Shaffer
Stallworth
I don't think I resign S. Jones for what he wants and I would like to see the Center position upgraded. Fraley was a good stop gap but, his time is about over. I also would have to consider an upgrade at RB but it is not the top priority. If you want to win consistantly you have to upgrade this defense. I also would love to see a consistant #2 receiver like a T.J. Housyourmama.
agree... about Fraley... he keeps getting bulldozed... question??????... did anybody ever sign LeCharles, or is he soup?
agree... about Fraley... he keeps getting bulldozed... question??????... did anybody ever sign LeCharles, or is he soup?
No; he is done
I really do not think we need to blow this thing up either; removing RAC and trading DA & Winslow for some high draft picks would be a good step in the right direction
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