Jets vs Browns
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Hillis didn't do shit against the Steelers and the Saints. Even without Jenkins, he isn't going to run over the Jets. We'll stack the box and our secondary can stop whatever receivers..Stuckey?...the Browns have.
Our offense will be the question mark. Browns have a good D, and I see this being a 10-7 9-6 type game. But if you think you are dropping 34 points on the Jets? not gonna happen.
As for Mangini, I think he did get a raw deal here in NY. He's a good football mind, and I think between him and Tannenbaum, they brought in some good players. I think that Favre coming in was a horrible idea, and it hamstrung Mangini, and then he took the fall
But I've been a Jet fan for 25 years, and Rex makes watching and being a Jet fan more fun. Mangini is boring, and I think ultimatly his teams reflect that. Last years run was great, and we're 6-2. I think the Browns were overlooked by the Pats and the Saints, and I don't think the Jets will do that.
We'll see. As for the Braylon broken leg comment, maybe its fans like that that made him not want to play in your city anymore..we'd rather have him here, driving around the upper west side drunk off his ass, catching td's on sunday. Stay classy Cleveland
HILLIS ran for 144 yards against the great Ravens defense, and 40 MORE than that against N.E. I think that cancels out the games against the Stoolers and the Aints. Besides, WHO in the league can run against Pittsburgh? I dont think we're scared of your Defensive line, where about as high as a juiced up PCP addict right about now and honestly, who wants to get in the way of that? I guarantee you your team does not want to face us this Sunday.
HILLIS ran for 144 yards against the great Ravens defense, and 40 MORE than that against N.E. I think that cancels out the games against the Stoolers and the Aints. Besides, WHO in the league can run against Pittsburgh? I dont think we're scared of your Defensive line, where about as high as a juiced up PCP addict right about now and honestly, who wants to get in the way of that? I guarantee you your team does not want to face us this Sunday.
Hillis is a beast, but you need to be scared of our D line. Rbs don't get a lot of yards against us and they have to fight for every one of them. If you think our team doesn't want to face you on Sunday, then you don't know Rex at all. Rex has brought this team a confidence that has long been missing. He and all his players, will play anybody, anywhere at anytime.
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HILLIS ran for 144 yards against the great Ravens defense, and 40 MORE than that against N.E. I think that cancels out the games against the Stoolers and the Aints. Besides, WHO in the league can run against Pittsburgh? I dont think we're scared of your Defensive line, where about as high as a juiced up PCP addict right about now and honestly, who wants to get in the way of that? I guarantee you your team does not want to face us this Sunday.
Hillis is a beast, but you need to be scared of our D line. Rbs don't get a lot of yards against us and they have to fight for every one of them. If you think our team doesn't want to face you on Sunday, then you don't know Rex at all. Rex has brought this team a confidence that has long been missing. He and all his players, will play anybody, anywhere at anytime.
Hillis is a beast, but you need to be scared of our D line. Rbs don't get a lot of yards against us and they have to fight for every one of them. If you think our team doesn't want to face you on Sunday, then you don't know Rex at all. Rex has brought this team a confidence that has long been missing. He and all his players, will play anybody, anywhere at anytime.
Don't know what Hillis will do against the Jets. He had a deep thigh bruise and a groin pull during the Steelers/Saints weeks that really slowed him down and he had to get rotated out of the lineup after nearly every run. He is a big back, but his vision is awesome and he is quick and agile. If the Jets D-line does push around the Browns offensive line Hillis will still fall forward for a few yards.
Pats fans said he wouldn't be successful because they handle big backs well... they may have been right about their defense but they were wrong about Hillis. He isn't a straight ahead big back that just runs off guard every run.
If the Jets stop Hillis for say 16 carries for 45 yards the Browns will have a hard time winning. I don't think that will happen, I see more like 23 carries for 90 yards and his weekly TD.
I think the Browns score about 20 if they don't get any big turnovers from their defense.
The question is will the Jets passing attack with their quality recievers have a big game. I think they will set up a couple TD's for the Jets.
I think it will be a close game if both teams show up and Hillis stays healthy, and turnovers might be the deciding factor.
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Hillis is a beast, but you need to be scared of our D line. Rbs don't get a lot of yards against us and they have to fight for every one of them. If you think our team doesn't want to face you on Sunday, then you don't know Rex at all. Rex has brought this team a confidence that has long been missing. He and all his players, will play anybody, anywhere at anytime.
Don't know what Hillis will do against the Jets. He had a deep thigh bruise and a groin pull during the Steelers/Saints weeks that really slowed him down and he had to get rotated out of the lineup after nearly every run. He is a big back, but his vision is awesome and he is quick and agile. If the Jets D-line does push around the Browns offensive line Hillis will still fall forward for a few yards.
Pats fans said he wouldn't be successful because they handle big backs well... they may have been right about their defense but they were wrong about Hillis. He isn't a straight ahead big back that just runs off guard every run.
If the Jets stop Hillis for say 16 carries for 45 yards the Browns will have a hard time winning. I don't think that will happen, I see more like 23 carries for 90 yards and his weekly TD.
I think the Browns score about 20 if they don't get any big turnovers from their defense.
The question is will the Jets passing attack with their quality recievers have a big game. I think they will set up a couple TD's for the Jets.
I think it will be a close game if both teams show up and Hillis stays healthy, and turnovers might be the deciding factor.
Don't know what Hillis will do against the Jets. He had a deep thigh bruise and a groin pull during the Steelers/Saints weeks that really slowed him down and he had to get rotated out of the lineup after nearly every run. He is a big back, but his vision is awesome and he is quick and agile. If the Jets D-line does push around the Browns offensive line Hillis will still fall forward for a few yards.
Pats fans said he wouldn't be successful because they handle big backs well... they may have been right about their defense but they were wrong about Hillis. He isn't a straight ahead big back that just runs off guard every run.
If the Jets stop Hillis for say 16 carries for 45 yards the Browns will have a hard time winning. I don't think that will happen, I see more like 23 carries for 90 yards and his weekly TD.
I think the Browns score about 20 if they don't get any big turnovers from their defense.
The question is will the Jets passing attack with their quality recievers have a big game. I think they will set up a couple TD's for the Jets.
I think it will be a close game if both teams show up and Hillis stays healthy, and turnovers might be the deciding factor.
The pats def. is not as good as they think it is. Hillis is really agile for such a big guy and he surprised me with how quickly he can turn a corner...I'm very confident with the Jets secondary vs. the browns receivers....As always, Sanchez is a key....if the Jets take his handcuffs off...he can be very dangerous with the receivers the Jets have
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Clearly the Jets are a superb defensive team. I'm a big Sanchez fan because I'm a big Trojan fan... but he's still in the confusable period of his career and Ryan has been confusing some far more experience QBs lately (Brees and Brady are pretty good). The Browns defense has been all about disguises this year, and Sanchez could be in for some trouble.
The Jets have the 4th best run defense and the Browns have the 11th. It might be a matter of which young QB can move the chains with a short passing offense.
I think the winner in this one is lucky to get 20. Hillis may have to be happy with 3s and 4s to put us in reasonable third downs.
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Clearly the Jets are a superb defensive team. I'm a big Sanchez fan because I'm a big Trojan fan... but he's still in the confusable period of his career and Ryan has been confusing some far more experience QBs lately (Brees and Brady are pretty good). The Browns defense has been all about disguises this year, and Sanchez could be in for some trouble.
The Jets have the 4th best run defense and the Browns have the 11th. It might be a matter of which young QB can move the chains with a short passing offense.
I think the winner in this one is lucky to get 20. Hillis may have to be happy with 3s and 4s to put us in reasonable third downs.
Clearly the Jets are a superb defensive team. I'm a big Sanchez fan because I'm a big Trojan fan... but he's still in the confusable period of his career and Ryan has been confusing some far more experience QBs lately (Brees and Brady are pretty good). The Browns defense has been all about disguises this year, and Sanchez could be in for some trouble.
The Jets have the 4th best run defense and the Browns have the 11th. It might be a matter of which young QB can move the chains with a short passing offense.
I think the winner in this one is lucky to get 20. Hillis may have to be happy with 3s and 4s to put us in reasonable third downs.
Shep,
All good points but I would add that penalties and field position will be huge in a game like this. The Jets have been very sloppy in the penalty area lately and that could be a problem for them. This game features two of the best special teams coaches in the business.
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Clearly the Jets are a superb defensive team. I'm a big Sanchez fan because I'm a big Trojan fan... but he's still in the confusable period of his career and Ryan has been confusing some far more experience QBs lately (Brees and Brady are pretty good). The Browns defense has been all about disguises this year, and Sanchez could be in for some trouble.
The Jets have the 4th best run defense and the Browns have the 11th. It might be a matter of which young QB can move the chains with a short passing offense.
I think the winner in this one is lucky to get 20. Hillis may have to be happy with 3s and 4s to put us in reasonable third downs.
Clearly the Jets are a superb defensive team. I'm a big Sanchez fan because I'm a big Trojan fan... but he's still in the confusable period of his career and Ryan has been confusing some far more experience QBs lately (Brees and Brady are pretty good). The Browns defense has been all about disguises this year, and Sanchez could be in for some trouble.
The Jets have the 4th best run defense and the Browns have the 11th. It might be a matter of which young QB can move the chains with a short passing offense.
I think the winner in this one is lucky to get 20. Hillis may have to be happy with 3s and 4s to put us in reasonable third downs.
This is where I think the Jets have the biggest edge. I believe our secondary can handle your receivers one on one and that gives us more freedom to stack the box to stop Hillis.
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Im not necessarily saying the Jets dont have a good run defense, but look at the teams theyve played to give them that 4th rushing defense stat...
Ravens, Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Vikings, Broncos, Packers, Lions... The only decent running team on that list are the Vikings with AP.. Pats dont run, GB's running back is injured for the year, Spiller is a rookie, Hillis has more or close to the rushing yards than the entire Broncos team.. Ravens are alright I guess. But I guess im saying, besides Minnesota the Jets defense hasnt seen a good running game this year. We'll see...
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Im not necessarily saying the Jets dont have a good run defense, but look at the teams theyve played to give them that 4th rushing defense stat...
Ravens, Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Vikings, Broncos, Packers, Lions... The only decent running team on that list are the Vikings with AP.. Pats dont run, GB's running back is injured for the year, Spiller is a rookie, Hillis has more or close to the rushing yards than the entire Broncos team.. Ravens are alright I guess. But I guess im saying, besides Minnesota the Jets defense hasnt seen a good running game this year. We'll see...
Im not necessarily saying the Jets dont have a good run defense, but look at the teams theyve played to give them that 4th rushing defense stat...
Ravens, Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Vikings, Broncos, Packers, Lions... The only decent running team on that list are the Vikings with AP.. Pats dont run, GB's running back is injured for the year, Spiller is a rookie, Hillis has more or close to the rushing yards than the entire Broncos team.. Ravens are alright I guess. But I guess im saying, besides Minnesota the Jets defense hasnt seen a good running game this year. We'll see...
Really?
I think you are severely underating the Jets rush D
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Zombo said:
Belichick? He was a Giants assistant back then.Zombo
Don't know why I wrote Belichek. Schotty's old man was the coach. With that being said, watch for the double reverse, in which Cochtery loses eight yards. Schotty calls it once a week. it is sort of a NY Jet tradition.
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As long as Schottenheimer lets Sanchez play and not call plays like “throw into double coverage”, we should be all good. Joking aside, I’m not sold on Sanchez and I’m afraid he’s going to be an interception machine if the Jets fall behind and their running game is rendered ineffective. As resilient as Sanchez has been coming back from bad games, he also appears to have a very fragile psyche. In addition, he still seems to have trouble reading defenses, still doesn’t step up in the pocket to evade pressure, still locks onto targets, and his accuracy isn’t too great. However, he has a mean pump fake, which I bet he practiced diligently looking at himself in the mirror with Braylon by his side. Perhaps I'm being too harsh on a QB only a year removed from his rookie season.
For those that think the Browns can just run on the Jets defense because you exposed inexperienced LB corp of the Patriots, you have something else coming. The Jets LB corp is MUCH better than the Patriots. Plus, Jets secondary (minus Cromartie) are also very good against the run.
Fortunately for the Browns, Jets strength at CB may be moot since Watson and Hillis are the top two receivers for the Browns and this fact will spell trouble for the Jets. I fear the Browns will just use their WR as decoys and attack with Watson/Moore to expose the weak Jets safeties. I also think this game will expose how good Hillis is at blitz pickup.
Should be an interesting game. Can’t wait until Sunday.
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