Future Wide Recievers
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I agree that Shipley would be big here in Cleveland if somehow we could of got him along with McCoy they just know each other so well but im gonna have to say im all for AJ Green next year he may not be there when we pick but the guy whos been standing out big time to me is Justin Blackmon for OSU he is competely dominating everyone in College Football even Prince from Nebraska whos top 5 on both Kiper and Mcshays big boards
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Won't be shocked to see one of those two guys active in place of Robiskie very soon, probably Williams.
One of the OBR guys said they've been watching the WRs pretty closely... and they just don't get open, period. Robiskie is the worst and almost certainly doesn't have a future with the team.
Assuming Massoqoui DOES... I'd love to get a big, physical T.O. or Dez Bryant type with functional game speed and explosive cuts. A bully. We don't have a QB with McNabb or Dog Killah's arm, so you have to look at what their offense looks like with Kolb... which was really good after he got his feet under him, but very different.
Wonder where Kolb goes next year? Seattle? Minnesota?
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Won't be shocked to see one of those two guys active in place of Robiskie very soon, probably Williams.
One of the OBR guys said they've been watching the WRs pretty closely... and they just don't get open, period. Robiskie is the worst and almost certainly doesn't have a future with the team.
Assuming Massoqoui DOES... I'd love to get a big, physical T.O. or Dez Bryant type with functional game speed and explosive cuts. A bully. We don't have a QB with McNabb or Dog Killah's arm, so you have to look at what their offense looks like with Kolb... which was really good after he got his feet under him, but very different.
Wonder where Kolb goes next year? Seattle? Minnesota?
Won't be shocked to see one of those two guys active in place of Robiskie very soon, probably Williams.
One of the OBR guys said they've been watching the WRs pretty closely... and they just don't get open, period. Robiskie is the worst and almost certainly doesn't have a future with the team.
Assuming Massoqoui DOES... I'd love to get a big, physical T.O. or Dez Bryant type with functional game speed and explosive cuts. A bully. We don't have a QB with McNabb or Dog Killah's arm, so you have to look at what their offense looks like with Kolb... which was really good after he got his feet under him, but very different.
Wonder where Kolb goes next year? Seattle? Minnesota?
Why do we have to compare our offense with that of the Eagles?
The GM doesn't run the offense or defense. He just drafts players and makes personnel decisions. And I'm not entirely sure how much control Heckert has outside of drafting people. I think our offense is more like a Pats/49ers offense.
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In the upcoming draft I would like us to look at senior wr Jarvis Williams out of North Carolina St. he's starting to break some of Torry Holts records there.
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I like Alston Jeffrey from south carolina, reminds me of TO a little physically.
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I like Alston Jeffrey from south carolina, reminds me of TO a little physically.
I like Alston Jeffrey from south carolina, reminds me of TO a little physically.
Alshon is awesome, I've seen first hand. I go to Columbia every other weekend and watch him play. He wouldn't be a bad acquisition but he's only a sophomore, so we'll have to wait a year at least. A.J. Green is all but a foregone conclusion to be done at Georgia.
Imagine getting both of them. That would be something.
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AJ Green will not be available by the time the Browns pick in the first round. Seriously, just stop thinking about him because he won't drop.
The challenge is that we need to draft a 3-4 DE such as Bailey(Miami) / Jordan(Cal) / Fairley(Auburn) with our #1 in 2011 to replace Rogers. Rubin is good, but he can't do everything by himself.
I hope Heckert does what it takes to trade back into the first to get Floyd from ND .. he's a true #1 WR and is only dropping because of an injury history. So far this year, Floyd is injury-free - and at 6'3, 220, he's a load who can run-block as well as catch jump balls.
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AJ Green will not be available by the time the Browns pick in the first round. Seriously, just stop thinking about him because he won't drop.
The challenge is that we need to draft a 3-4 DE such as Bailey(Miami) / Jordan(Cal) / Fairley(Auburn) with our #1 in 2011 to replace Rogers. Rubin is good, but he can't do everything by himself.
I hope Heckert does what it takes to trade back into the first to get Floyd from ND .. he's a true #1 WR and is only dropping because of an injury history. So far this year, Floyd is injury-free - and at 6'3, 220, he's a load who can run-block as well as catch jump balls.
AJ Green will not be available by the time the Browns pick in the first round. Seriously, just stop thinking about him because he won't drop.
The challenge is that we need to draft a 3-4 DE such as Bailey(Miami) / Jordan(Cal) / Fairley(Auburn) with our #1 in 2011 to replace Rogers. Rubin is good, but he can't do everything by himself.
I hope Heckert does what it takes to trade back into the first to get Floyd from ND .. he's a true #1 WR and is only dropping because of an injury history. So far this year, Floyd is injury-free - and at 6'3, 220, he's a load who can run-block as well as catch jump balls.
I love Floyd and think he could be a great YAC guy in a WCO-ish offense (whether with a new OC or just continuing to develop that way).
To the poster who asked: WCO is part of a culture tracing to Bill Walsh, and Holmgren is probably the current Godfather of that culture. Heckert and whatsisname, our offensive consultant, are part of that culture, too. They affect the team from the top and we're already seeing a vast improvement in the management of our offense. No, Holmgren isn't satisfied yet because we aren't involving the WRs, but he has to acknowledge that we lack talent there and probably should have done something about it last offseason.
But anybody who thinks Holmgren isn't driving the bus is fooling himself. He'll decide what's best as we move forward after this year.
Back to Floyd: I think he'll rise. Right now he's showing up from 20-30, but I think if he comes out of the year healthy and has decent camps, we'll see him as a very valid pick at #15 or wherever we draft. I agree that DE is another priority and we'll probably address it early. I'm guessing we'll get a linebacker and a right-side blocker, too. Obviously free agency will be a factor.
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I'm going to put my wide receiver bid in to consider Greg Childs from the University of Arkansas (6'3", 217). He is just a junior this year, so I don't know if he will come out.
I would love to get Shipley to Cleveland some way, but I don't think Cincy is going to let him go, certainly not after he has had a good rookie season. To put McCoy and Shipley back together would put a lot of pressure on them. Expectations would be unrealistically off the charts.
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AJ Green will not be available by the time the Browns pick in the first round. Seriously, just stop thinking about him because he won't drop.
The challenge is that we need to draft a 3-4 DE such as Bailey(Miami) / Jordan(Cal) / Fairley(Auburn) with our #1 in 2011 to replace Rogers. Rubin is good, but he can't do everything by himself.
I hope Heckert does what it takes to trade back into the first to get Floyd from ND .. he's a true #1 WR and is only dropping because of an injury history. So far this year, Floyd is injury-free - and at 6'3, 220, he's a load who can run-block as well as catch jump balls.
I love Floyd and think he could be a great YAC guy in a WCO-ish offense (whether with a new OC or just continuing to develop that way).
To the poster who asked: WCO is part of a culture tracing to Bill Walsh, and Holmgren is probably the current Godfather of that culture. Heckert and whatsisname, our offensive consultant, are part of that culture, too. They affect the team from the top and we're already seeing a vast improvement in the management of our offense. No, Holmgren isn't satisfied yet because we aren't involving the WRs, but he has to acknowledge that we lack talent there and probably should have done something about it last offseason.
But anybody who thinks Holmgren isn't driving the bus is fooling himself. He'll decide what's best as we move forward after this year.
Back to Floyd: I think he'll rise. Right now he's showing up from 20-30, but I think if he comes out of the year healthy and has decent camps, we'll see him as a very valid pick at #15 or wherever we draft. I agree that DE is another priority and we'll probably address it early. I'm guessing we'll get a linebacker and a right-side blocker, too. Obviously free agency will be a factor.
I love Floyd and think he could be a great YAC guy in a WCO-ish offense (whether with a new OC or just continuing to develop that way).
To the poster who asked: WCO is part of a culture tracing to Bill Walsh, and Holmgren is probably the current Godfather of that culture. Heckert and whatsisname, our offensive consultant, are part of that culture, too. They affect the team from the top and we're already seeing a vast improvement in the management of our offense. No, Holmgren isn't satisfied yet because we aren't involving the WRs, but he has to acknowledge that we lack talent there and probably should have done something about it last offseason.
But anybody who thinks Holmgren isn't driving the bus is fooling himself. He'll decide what's best as we move forward after this year.
Back to Floyd: I think he'll rise. Right now he's showing up from 20-30, but I think if he comes out of the year healthy and has decent camps, we'll see him as a very valid pick at #15 or wherever we draft. I agree that DE is another priority and we'll probably address it early. I'm guessing we'll get a linebacker and a right-side blocker, too. Obviously free agency will be a factor.
I know what the WCO offense is. I was just asking why you compared our offense to Philly's when we're really nothing like Philly's offense. They are a spread WCO without a power running game. We're more of a hybrid Erhardt-Perkins/ Air Coryell offense with WC influence.
I don't see any similarities.
As for A.J. Green, most mocks have us picking between 3-8 in the 2011 draft. It is highly possible A.J. Green could fall to us with the hype around Julio Jones, DaQuan Bowers, and Pat Peterson.
I think it's safe to assume that Buffalo, Dallas and Carolina will round out the top 3. Buffalo needs a QB, Dallas doesn't need another WR with the corps they have, and Carolina could be looking at WR, but it's more likely they're looking to shore up the defensive side of the ball. Remember what happened the last time Carolina took a giant defensive end with the second pick overall? They could be looking to hit that jackpot again.
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Honestly I really hope we draft Defense with our first pick.
We really need a pass rush DE or a LB.
We have got to be one of the oldest teams in the NFL on the Defensive side of the ball. Plus, I could do without another Braylon fiasco...
I'd like to see them go out and get a proven WR, rather than bet high on a rookie. I think if they could find a true no 1 MoMass, Cribbs and Stuckey could be a pretty solid core. (Maybe Williams will be a good surprise) I just really think we need to address the age issue on D.
I'd give up a number 2 all day to get a guy like Boldin.... Damn Ravens...
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by pass rushing DE do you mean a DE in the 3-4 or a pass rushing OLB? either position we could upgrade but i think a DE is higher on the list. They usually arent considered pass rushers really in the 3-4 though
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Honestly I really hope we draft Defense with our first pick.
We really need a pass rush DE or a LB.
We have got to be one of the oldest teams in the NFL on the Defensive side of the ball. Plus, I could do without another Braylon fiasco...
I'd like to see them go out and get a proven WR, rather than bet high on a rookie. I think if they could find a true no 1 MoMass, Cribbs and Stuckey could be a pretty solid core. (Maybe Williams will be a good surprise) I just really think we need to address the age issue on D.
I'd give up a number 2 all day to get a guy like Boldin.... Damn Ravens...
Honestly I really hope we draft Defense with our first pick.
We really need a pass rush DE or a LB.
We have got to be one of the oldest teams in the NFL on the Defensive side of the ball. Plus, I could do without another Braylon fiasco...
I'd like to see them go out and get a proven WR, rather than bet high on a rookie. I think if they could find a true no 1 MoMass, Cribbs and Stuckey could be a pretty solid core. (Maybe Williams will be a good surprise) I just really think we need to address the age issue on D.
I'd give up a number 2 all day to get a guy like Boldin.... Damn Ravens...
Defensive ends aren't the pass rushers in the 3-4. The defensive line in the 3-4 has a two-gap responsibility more often than not. That means they eat the blocker in front of them, and are responsible for the gap on either side of them. Therefore, the defensive linemen need to be on the bigger side. Most times, the pressure from a 3-4 defense is generated from a blitzing OLB scraping the edge. That's why a lot of us love Marcus Benard, he's an OLB with a nose for the QB.
Defensive ends in the 3-4 tend to be around the size of 4-3 defensive tackles. And the noseguard in the 3-4 tends to be around the size of a small planet. Since most college teams run the 4-3 defense, a pass rushing DE would more likely be an OLB for us. We're probably going to be looking for a "tweener". Brian Orakpo is a great example. He played defensive end at Texas, but now plays OLB for the Redskins. Aaron Curry is another good example.
I'd love to see us nab an Orakpo or Curry type player. I was hoping we drafted either one of them, but it never panned out. Larry English was another pass rusher I was high on. But instead we traded back and got Alex Mack, and I can't complain about that.
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