Sometimes a Win Doesn't Feel Like a Win
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I know, I know. A W is a W especially for a team like us. It's just that it has felt like we have been better than our record all season until this game.
I know, I know. A W is a W especially for a team like us. It's just that it has felt like we have been better than our record all season until this game.
OMG....this team has lost almost all those games since '99 and now you need a pep talk to feel good? Browns' fans need to learn what its supposed to feel like when you WIN!
Rove: Well George we didn't win the popular vote, but we got the electoral. So it looks like your president.
Bush: But Karl............it doesn't feel right.
WAKE THE xxxx UP ...................BOMB A COUNTRY...........PUNCH A STEELER FAN.............GET SOME PUSSY......DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TO GET USED TO THIS SHIT BECAUSE IT AIN'T GONNA STOP MUTHAxxxxER!
just playin.....damn winning feels good!!!!!!
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I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
Well, I have to agree with you- the game really shouldn't have been that close. But a win is a win.
I certainly feel better than I would have if the FG would have been good- and I agree the game should have been over- the Panthers WR got touched while he was still in bounds and the clock should have run out.
OTOH I doubt we'll be seeing many Steeler trolls around here this week running their mouths after they got a huge break when the Bills WR in the finest Braylon tradition dropped a game winning gimme TD pass in overtime.
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A win is a win rather its a thing of beauty or dog ugly and this one was bullfrog ugly!
Its been us on the wrong side of luck to many times and i already had considered this game finished then they unexpectedly miss the FG! Hey this is the browns we dont get this kind of lucky misfortune of others very often, lololol
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just like last week. we were doing well, daboll gets rattled, backs up into his shell, and they almoast pull out win. last week it was the watson injury, this week it was the moore fumble.
daboll's problems aren't correctable problems, he psychologically can't handle the pressure, and folds. he won't be able to be trained out of this habit of his, he'll need to be replaced for us to take the next step forward. winning in the nfl is done by maintaining your cool when under pressure. if a person's personality can't handle it they need to be removed, as that is not a correctable fault in most cases.
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I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
No, just like sometimes a loss doesn't feel like a loss.....yet I would rather it be this way.
We lost a couple we should have won, so now it is time to even that up.
We won. Good enough for me....let the other guys feel good in their loss.
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This is a very useful win. You say it doesn't "feel" like a win. GOOD! It shouldn't! This team is far from perfect. The film study today is going to have the paint peeling off the walls!
The bottom line beyond that is that the Browns made mistakes and they were able to overcome their mistakes (either passively or actively). They did enough to be 1 point better. That's part of being a winning team. How many times have we been on the other end of that? Would you have felt better had they lost? Now we're crying about style points. I don't give a rat's ass. A win is a win and it smells a whole lot better than if you lost.
As an aside, I for one, am sick and tired of this whole cliche of "playing down to the competition". The team on the other sideline gets paid too. They have pride too. This is the NFL! They play hard for their coach too (unless he's Brad Childress or Wade Phillips, but I digress). Just cause you rolled up 21-10 in the first half that doesn't mean you're gonna blow them out. The coaching staff came out it the second half going for pass plays which, to me, says they weren't about to go conservative...they were going for the jugular. Guess what? Jake Delhomme decides to throw his first two passes to his old team and one for a TD! Did we give up a long TD to Gettis or Smith? The Ravens did. We did not.
The true reason you're miffed is because Gocong and Co missed countless tackles as Mike Goodson ran amok in our secondary giving them hope and you indigestion. If it weren't for that you'd be talking about how we came back and won and how the special teams and defense shut them down at the end.
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This is a very useful win. You say it doesn't "feel" like a win. GOOD! It shouldn't! This team is far from perfect. The film study today is going to have the paint peeling off the walls!
The bottom line beyond that is that the Browns made mistakes and they were able to overcome their mistakes (either passively or actively). They did enough to be 1 point better. That's part of being a winning team. How many times have we been on the other end of that? Would you have felt better had they lost? Now we're crying about style points. I don't give a rat's ass. A win is a win and it smells a whole lot better than if you lost.
As an aside, I for one, am sick and tired of this whole cliche of "playing down to the competition". The team on the other sideline gets paid too. They have pride too. This is the NFL! They play hard for their coach too (unless he's Brad Childress or Wade Phillips, but I digress). Just cause you rolled up 21-10 in the first half that doesn't mean you're gonna blow them out. The coaching staff came out it the second half going for pass plays which, to me, says they weren't about to go conservative...they were going for the jugular. Guess what? Jake Delhomme decides to throw his first two passes to his old team and one for a TD! Did we give up a long TD to Gettis or Smith? The Ravens did. We did not.
The true reason you're miffed is because Gocong and Co missed countless tackles as Mike Goodson ran amok in our secondary giving them hope and you indigestion. If it weren't for that you'd be talking about how we came back and won and how the special teams and defense shut them down at the end.
This is a very useful win. You say it doesn't "feel" like a win. GOOD! It shouldn't! This team is far from perfect. The film study today is going to have the paint peeling off the walls!
The bottom line beyond that is that the Browns made mistakes and they were able to overcome their mistakes (either passively or actively). They did enough to be 1 point better. That's part of being a winning team. How many times have we been on the other end of that? Would you have felt better had they lost? Now we're crying about style points. I don't give a rat's ass. A win is a win and it smells a whole lot better than if you lost.
As an aside, I for one, am sick and tired of this whole cliche of "playing down to the competition". The team on the other sideline gets paid too. They have pride too. This is the NFL! They play hard for their coach too (unless he's Brad Childress or Wade Phillips, but I digress). Just cause you rolled up 21-10 in the first half that doesn't mean you're gonna blow them out. The coaching staff came out it the second half going for pass plays which, to me, says they weren't about to go conservative...they were going for the jugular. Guess what? Jake Delhomme decides to throw his first two passes to his old team and one for a TD! Did we give up a long TD to Gettis or Smith? The Ravens did. We did not.
The true reason you're miffed is because Gocong and Co missed countless tackles as Mike Goodson ran amok in our secondary giving them hope and you indigestion. If it weren't for that you'd be talking about how we came back and won and how the special teams and defense shut them down at the end.
Agree. Our tackling was horrible. I think that if Colt were playing, with the amount of protection Jake had, we would have scored more points. This team needs more then a WR to be competitive.
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All I think people are saying is that we need clean up the mistakes.. There is no reason we should have been that close to losing. 4 times we were ahead in the 4th quarter this year and lossed, and this was looking to be #5... You would have thought that we could have gotten another first down after the Haden INT. But of course not, because what do we do.. the Obvious, run it up the middle. give the ball back with more than a minute to go. And look what ALMOST happened. I love the Browns, will always love the Browns, but we have to tighten up the loose ends... We have to play 4 full quarters of football.
Mangini looked just as frustrated after that win as many of us did... Was I elated.. yes.. Did I shout like everyone else in the stadium when the ball went wide left.. heck yes.. but there is that feeling that we could have done better and there is nothing wrong with voicing that opinion.
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Welcome to life in the 2010 NFL. I'm a huge fan of the team that is the king of "A Win is a Win", and as I've said allllll the time, the ugliest win is still better then the prettiest loss. Cleveland has something to build on and it doesn't involve Jake Delhomme, which is a good thing for you guys. He was definitely the reason this game was decided by Kasay's leg, but at the end of 60 minutes, you guys won. Enjoy it, build on it, and get ready for next week. That's the glory of the NFL. Circa 2010 anyway.
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That is because, for most of the loses we had the lead in the fourth quarter and we saw that lead shrink gradually until we lost the lead and the point. It has infact become a pattern which i thought would happen again. And it seemed to come against one of the leagues weakest teams. As a team that is touted to be much improved and a team that is advertised as 'not what our record indicates' we have to do a better job of winning convincingly.
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I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
I would have to agree with you on the this one. Yes, we won, but did we deserve to win, NO! Probably the biggest reason was because, IMO, we played the worst team in the league and barely scraped by.
But on the other hand i thought there were games we deserved to win, but we didn't.
I'm hoping Delomme goes away real soon and Daboll is fired at the end of the year.
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wrong. a win always feels good. especially for this team.
wrong. a win always feels good. especially for this team.
Very true that a win always feels good. I never could understand the term "ugly win". To win the game is the most greatest feeling of sports. I don't care if you want say they were lucky or it was one in a million chance or all that other crap. At the end of the day and you look at the standings that's where the great feeling is. In a regular game or the Super Bowl all and I mean all you care about is the win...period.
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I know we won today, but I don't feel that usual excitement after a Browns win. Maybe it is because we squeaked out a win against a team we should have dominated. We had our foot on their throat in the first half and then came the Moore fumble. It was like I could have written the rest of the game from that point. Offensive futility, defense not getting stops on 3rd down. It felt like the Browns team that I have been used to watching since we came back into the league. Couldn't get a first down when we needed to, stupid turnovers, questionable coaching, defense giving up the big play all leading up to the other team driving the field at the end of the game and kicking the winning field goal. Except the kick went wide today, we won a game that we tried to give away. That is what happens when you play a 1-9 team, they find more ways to lose than we did. It feels like the team regressed. Maybe it is because Jake is behind the wheel again, who knows, but we definitely looked like a 3 win team playing a team that was just slightly worse than we could manage to be today.
Disclaimer: None of this applies to Hillis who is a beast and should be a pro-bowler this year, same to Vickers.
Disclaimer #2: Hodges and Dawson were spot on. Way to grab it and pull it down Hodges and Dawson to stay true!
I would have to agree with you on the this one. Yes, we won, but did we deserve to win, NO! Probably the biggest reason was because, IMO, we played the worst team in the league and barely scraped by.
But on the other hand i thought there were games we deserved to win, but we didn't.
I'm hoping Delomme goes away real soon and Daboll is fired at the end of the year.
I would have to agree with you on the this one. Yes, we won, but did we deserve to win, NO! Probably the biggest reason was because, IMO, we played the worst team in the league and barely scraped by.
But on the other hand i thought there were games we deserved to win, but we didn't.
Carolina deserved to win even less....
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