Sabby Piscatelli
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Elam's been more than alright the past couple games... he's been very good. He's been playing in the box more as our coverage improves (meaning, Haden in for Wright) and making plays all over the place.
If we let him go, he'll be picked up as a starter on a better team, like Brodney Pool. No sense in doing that.
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There were quite a few safeties drafted that year before Bucs picked Sabby. He was 7th. Bucs gambled and lost. Analysts were saying that he can become the next Urlacher, but apparently he never put on any muscle or got faster. Browns FO probably got him as a project, so don't expect any changes. If they can't figure out what to do with him he'll be released....again.
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He's huge for a safety (224) and did have 80 tackles in '08. He's played some football.
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elam has been 'alright' the last couple of games but when he misses it's a disastrous huge whiff and usually ends up in points for the other team. which sounds a lot like pisitelli.
i feel like the only way we'll get solid in that position is through the draft. BUT hey, what happens if there's a lockout, do they still have the draft?
There won't a lockout!!!! Mommy no!!!! dont hit me!!!
Im still in denial. I cant live without football.
Im still in denial. I cant live without football.
If your a browns fan you have lived without football for your whole life and havent realized it yet! Hehehehehe..
Im sorry man it was just to hard to resist!
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Im still in denial. I cant live without football.
If your a browns fan you have lived without football for your whole life and havent realized it yet! Hehehehehe..
Im sorry man it was just to hard to resist!
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i like the fact that our FO is still making moves and they understand (like the rest of us) that our defensive backfield still needs a lot of work............
just don't know if this guy is the answer.
i like the fact that our FO is still making moves and they understand (like the rest of us) that our defensive backfield still needs a lot of work............
just don't know if this guy is the answer.
I agree. It is the point in the season where you are beginning to know who you aren't bringing back next and need to start working the waiver wire/FA list looking for the upgrade.
Building the team through the draft gets all the fanfare, but building the bottom of the roster is just as important as building the top.
We saw that earlier when we brought Trautwein back to the PS. Give him a few weeks there to get caught up and I expect to see him on the active roster the last 2-3 games and given some reps to see if he can become a viable replacement for one of the guys we have been playing at RT this year, be it starter or back-up.
If you make that 53rd man better, you just improved the team by any measure.
No matter how good you are, you always have a last man on the team. If you can replace him with someone better, you have improved.
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Every Bucs fan I know HATES this guy.
He's got a reputation for being pretty bad in coverage and lost his job to Cody Grimm, a rookie making the transition from linebacker to safety.
The Bucs cut Sabby and claimed Asante. Clearly, they thought our PS guy was better.
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SINCE I DONT WANT TO MAKE MY 4TH THREAD IN A ROW ILL JUST POST THIS HERE:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81c8...le=HP_headlines
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers safety Sherrod Martin has gone from being featured in an NFL video on illegal hits to paying a hefty price for the league's crackdown on blows to the head.
Martin said Wednesday that the NFL fined him $40,000 for a helmet-to-helmet hit on tight end Evan Moore during Sunday's loss to the Cleveland Browns, with the hefty penalty coming in part because he's a repeat offender.
Martin has been on the NFL's radar since Week 1, when he was docked $5,000 for a hit that gave New York Giants tight end Kevin Boss a concussion. The play was the first example in a video sent to teams as the league later announced increased penalties for dangerous hits.
Now Martin will pay the price for his fourth infraction and ensuing fine for unnecessary roughness in his two-year career. With a base salary of $395,000, the latest fine will cost the 2009 second-round draft pick from Troy nearly two game checks.
Martin declined to comment Wednesday while his teammates expressed dismay at the size of the penalty. Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson and Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan were fined $25,000 each for a wild, helmet-less fight in Sunday's game.
"The man hands them down, and we've got to pay them," cornerback Richard Marshall said.
Coach John Fox shook his head in the locker room as he heard about the fine. Several teammates said Martin had no other choice than to hit Moore high as the tight end came across the middle on a play near the end zone.
"When you start tackling lower, they're going to come up with a rule like that," cornerback Captain Munnerlyn said. "I'm really kind of lost in this situation."
The fine was a hot topic in the locker room of the woeful Panthers (1-10), with many defensive players vowing they won't change their style of play despite the numerous hefty fines.
"If you're thinking about the fine, you're not going to be playing hard. You're going to slow up on some tackles," Munnerlyn said. "That means you've got to keep playing hard, and if the fines come, they're going to come."
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Zombo said:
I know some Bucs fans liked him, but they are not the most knowledge sorts. He is more experienced and drafted much higher than Asante, so I'm hoping he finds a home with us.Zombo
Dumbo!
Show me ONE Bucs fan that likes him now. That guy is absolute garbage. He was outplayed by a 7th round rookie, even with experience he sucks at coverage, whiffs tackles and earns penalties on special teams.
A dumbass like you commenting on Bucs fans' knowledge, oh the irony.
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I remember him in college. He was a pretty good thumper in the Pac 10. He most likely has good special teams value.
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Didn't she win Last Comic Standing a few years ago?
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Browns sign Coye Francies to practice squad
s.The National Football Post
The Cleveland Browns have signed cornerback Coye Francies(notes) to the practice squad.
Francies is a 2009 Browns sixth-round draft pick who played this season in the United Football League with the Las Vegas Locomotives.
He played collegiately at San Jose State after transferring from Oregon State, where he was thrown off the team in 2007 after a gun registered to him was found during a routine traffic stop.
At San Jose State, Francies was named second-team All-Western Athletic Conference as he recorded 69 tackles, three interceptions and two forced fumble
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Zombo said:
I know some Bucs fans liked him, but they are not the most knowledge sorts. He is more experienced and drafted much higher than Asante, so I'm hoping he finds a home with us.Zombo
Dumbo!
Show me ONE Bucs fan that likes him now. That guy is absolute garbage. He was outplayed by a 7th round rookie, even with experience he sucks at coverage, whiffs tackles and earns penalties on special teams.
A dumbass like you commenting on Bucs fans' knowledge, oh the irony.
Dumbo!
Show me ONE Bucs fan that likes him now. That guy is absolute garbage. He was outplayed by a 7th round rookie, even with experience he sucks at coverage, whiffs tackles and earns penalties on special teams.
A dumbass like you commenting on Bucs fans' knowledge, oh the irony.
http://www.bbs.tbaybucs.com/index.php?/top...telli-released/
SABBY IS A MAJOR BUST
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Anyone upset that we lost Asante. I thought he was going to be good after a year on the practice squad. I know he was drafted low, but wasn't he the leading tackler on Nebraska and first team All Big 12?
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I don't know why all the Elam hate but Tampa let this guy go and claimed Larry Asante from us, so they must have had a reason to let him go and like Asante more. Seems like our loss.
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Anyone upset that we lost Asante. I thought he was going to be good after a year on the practice squad. I know he was drafted low, but wasn't he the leading tackler on Nebraska and first team All Big 12?
Anyone upset that we lost Asante. I thought he was going to be good after a year on the practice squad. I know he was drafted low, but wasn't he the leading tackler on Nebraska and first team All Big 12?
Frenchie, a SF who can't cover is like a watch that can't tell time. May look great...may even be right twice a day...but in the end can't get the job done.
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150 tackles and 5 int in only five starts and around 20ish games just subbing in doesn't sound too bad to me especially since we basically got him for a guy we drafted late and couldn't break the 53 man roster. Elam, and the crap back ups we just use for special teams are what kept this guy on the practice squad, so I highly doubt he had the ability to do much this season or next season.
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I'm going to add a +1 on not understanding the Elam hate...
Dude had 2 sacks last game, strip 6 the game before and some picks...
Think the hate needs to be thrown on the Wright pile. Dude goes down, has a rookie come in to replace him and the secondary gets a huge boost.
Not sure on this new guy. Wasn't this about the same time last year when they pulled Roth in off the wire?
Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised.
Either that or the practice squad just needed to fill the empty spot Asante left so they could scrimmage.
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I'm going to add a +1 on not understanding the Elam hate...
Dude had 2 sacks last game, strip 6 the game before and some picks...
Think the hate needs to be thrown on the Wright pile. Dude goes down, has a rookie come in to replace him and the secondary gets a huge boost.
Not sure on this new guy. Wasn't this about the same time last year when they pulled Roth in off the wire?
Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised.
Either that or the practice squad just needed to fill the empty spot Asante left so they could scrimmage.
I'm going to add a +1 on not understanding the Elam hate...
Dude had 2 sacks last game, strip 6 the game before and some picks...
Think the hate needs to be thrown on the Wright pile. Dude goes down, has a rookie come in to replace him and the secondary gets a huge boost.
Not sure on this new guy. Wasn't this about the same time last year when they pulled Roth in off the wire?
Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised.
Either that or the practice squad just needed to fill the empty spot Asante left so they could scrimmage.
My comment was based off of training camp, when Elam was sucking something awful. Elam is doing good as of late but I'm not ready to endorse him just yet just because of 3-4 straight good games.
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