Holmgren is Wimping Out

ballpeen

J/C

I don't think Holmgren has handled this very well.....but i do understand the point about when they stick up for you it is almost the kiss of death.

If Mangini is let go, I won't be thrilled, nor will I jump off a cliff, but if Holmgren then takes the job rather than hire someone else, I'll think him a self serving ass.

It is pretty easy to see the team is pretty close.

Nobody really expected more than 8 wins at best, so for Holmgren to fire Mangini then step in tells me he just kept Mangini for this transition season for his own purposes.

Put it this way....Holmgren wouldn't step in to a crappy situation....he'd let someone else take the losses.

Bodogjoe

My sisters boyfriends brother works with a guy who knows a guy who says Mangini is getting fired. SOLID source....

ballpeen

@bodogjoe said:
My sisters boyfriends brother works with a guy who knows a guy who says Mangini is getting fired. SOLID source.

Sounds like it.

BrownsBacker

@bodogjoe said:
My sisters boyfriends brother works with a guy who knows a guy who says Mangini is getting fired. SOLID source....

More solid than over half the BS rumors that surround the NFL.

Pumpkin Eater

@choco said:
Understatement of the year.

No doubt.

peterbell

@bodogjoe said:
My sisters boyfriends brother works with a guy who knows a guy who says Mangini is getting fired. SOLID source....

BUT..does he know the guy who knows the guy who know the guy who REALLY KNOWS the guy.

GOOD GRIEF!

kshutchins

Since when did "reporting" become "predicting?" Do the teach classes in crystal ball and tea-leaf reading in journalism school? Whatever happened to accurate delivery of the facts?

Just out of curiosity, who was the last coach or GM of the Browns that the PD writers LIKED?

ballpeen

All in all, probably Sam....Marty could also be a possible last.

Earl34

It's the PD's job to get you to read and sell papers/ad space.

My personal opinion is that Mangini was kept on because he earned it but that Holmgren had no intent on keeping him. This is clearly a better team than last year and perhaps a different OC might help. My feeling is that Holmgren is keeping quiet to just let it play out. The fact that he's not rushed to Mangini's defense is telling but who knows what votes of confidence mean anymore?

No one on the coaching staff is going to make excuses but there are certainly reasons for the slide we've seen after the Jets' game. That's all great and good but it's not going to sway Holmgren. I thought that with the potential of a lockout and a low odds chance of really winning this season...he kept Mangini on. He might have kept him as a built-in scapegoat to fall back on. The shame of it all is that the team is better and the coaching staff has shown (at times) the brilliance of being able to match up with the best in the league. It's just maddening (and I don't mean John Maddem although his voice does drive me nuts).

Time will tell but they have all been "must wins" at this point.

ATENEARS

Well, I think that game proved that Rob Ryan isn't the answer.