Bye Bye Mangini

slowburn

It's a valid arguement that questionable play calling/time management issues impacted the outcome of the game. Of greater significance is that the Browns lack of talent was again exposed. No component

of the team (offense, defense, special team and coaching) has the players/ability to consistently compensate for poor play by another. The current Browns can only win when all the cylinders are firing We

can't rely on the defense to carry the team when the offense is sputtering (Bufffalo game) and, conversely, our offense doesn't have the firepower to overcome a bad day at the office on the defensive side of

the line (todays game). Manging has to be held accountable for poor performances these past two weeks. It doesn't seem fair that he has to pay with his job considering what he has to work with, but fairness

won't prevent his probable exit.

MDDawg

@wrrebel said:
Mangini was so desperate during the game he took over the play calling on d for rob ryan..

With these back to back performances against teams with only 4 combined wins, it's inexcusable to lose in those ways. I was pro Mangini staying but now I"m ambivalent, hard to argue about progress when you can't beat teams you're supposed to

.

BROWNandORANGE

@mddawg said:
hard to argue about progress when you can't beat teams you're supposed to.

agreed. Do the Browns get really jacked up before playing good teams and then relax before playing sub .500 teams? That seems like the case.

steel88

How much crow are you going to eat when none of this happens?

Ill eat mine if it does.

Im wondering how many of these guys will stick around period if he isnt fired.

medicineman

I was hoping Eric would do a good job but after watching this crap I think he needs to go. That game was a waste of time to watch

BROWNandORANGE

@steel88 said:
Im wondering how many of these guys will stick around period if he isnt fired.

Where else would Daboll get a job? I can't imagine many teams that would be waiting in line to hire him. Daboll won't leave because he can't get a job anywhere else.

WRREBEL

@steel88 said:
How much crow are you going to eat when none of this happens?
Ill eat mine if it does.

Im wondering how many of these guys will stick around period if he isnt fired.

Where we gonna go? If it doesn't happen I will be shocked..

Its on all of us if he stays. But it would at least give u guys a chance to see what a tool he is..

It doesn't matter though cause he will be gone after the pitt game..

BROWNandORANGE

@wrrebel said:
Where we gonna go? If it doesn't happen I will be shocked..
Its on all of us if he stays. But it would at least give u guys a chance to see what a tool he is..

It doesn't matter though cause he will be gone after the pitt game..

Don't roast me on this, but I believe Lovie Smith's contract is up in the Windy City. I wouldn't mind seeing him in brown and orange. He has done good things in Chicago and is a special teams extraordinaire.

rich4eagle

@theclevelandsound said:
Magnini say goodbye. There is absolutely Holmgren will let him stay. Mike Holmgren will be the next Clevelands Browns HC. Save this thread, you will need it for me to say I told you so.
New 2011 Coaching Staff:

Head Coach: Mike Holmgren

Offensive Coordinator: Gil Haskell

Defensive Coordinator: Rob Ryan

YOU ARE A FOOL TO THINK ANYONE ELSE WILL BE THE NEXT HEAD COACH BESIDES MIKE HOLMGREN.

The end.

Mangini will be gone and someone besides Holmgren will the coach and HE WILL BE OFFENSIVE MINDED................book it

WRREBEL

for those who don't want gruden, let the nightmares begin!

BROWNandORANGE

@wrrebel said:
for those who don't want gruden, let the nightmares begin!

lol look at Jaws, he looks like a f**ktard.

WRREBEL

haha jaws kind of looks like the grinch

steel88

@wrrebel said:
Where we gonna go? If it doesn't happen I will be shocked..
Its on all of us if he stays. But it would at least give u guys a chance to see what a tool he is..

It doesn't matter though cause he will be gone after the pitt game..

I don't know where you'd go, but I have seen more then a few folks just up and disappear when they were proven wrong before. You may not, but Im guessing a few of them that just showed up will.

Pumpkin Eater

Wouldn't mind having John Fox.

manbearpig

I really would hate to lose Mangini and I am not sure he's to blame. I am not a football guru but..... what does he have to work with? I heard somethihng in the commentary today about how the Browns seem to play to the level of the opponents. I have to agree with it. We play well and beat good teams and we play like crap against crap teams. Either way we haven't gotten blown out in past years and although today was a loss, it was by two points.

TheClevelandSound

Cleveland Browns: Making Winning Coaches Have Losing Records Since 1999.

miktoxic

@theclevelandsound said:
Magnini say goodbye. There is absolutely Holmgren will let him stay. Mike Holmgren will be the next Clevelands Browns HC. Save this thread, you will need it for me to say I told you so.
New 2011 Coaching Staff:

Head Coach: Mike Holmgren

Offensive Coordinator: Gil Haskell

Defensive Coordinator: Rob Ryan

YOU ARE A FOOL TO THINK ANYONE ELSE WILL BE THE NEXT HEAD COACH BESIDES MIKE HOLMGREN.

The end.

i'll be your huckleberry. didn't see the game (watchung giants.philly) but you should've expected a good game outta cincy........"on any given siundaY. i'm sure they played their top ball of all season to beat us.

@wrrebel said:
Its funny, but let's save this post cause ur way off.
Gruden will be the browns next coach....

wrongo! dude if he's the browns's next coack ill buy you a six-pack, unfortunately i doubt they let it into the rehab you're in......you know the one for the young, serial killer pedophiles.

miktoxic

@wrrebel said:
I just heard that mangini will be fired with in a couple days followinh the steeler game.

who did you hear that from.......the "powdered toast man"?

nickers

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
you are just repeating what the commentators said and using that as proof that Mangini made a poor decision. If we use a Timeout there, we punt the ball to Cincinnati with time left for them to come down and score.. Our defense couldn't stop anything today. No sense in making the halftime deficit worse.
Bottom line is the injuries and lack of playmakers are catching up to us.. Can't wait to add more playmakers in the draft!

If you look at the bright side, we have a much better draft pick now.. Only Carolina, Buffalo, Detroit, and Arizona have worse records than us...

Well thats like telling your defense "oh btw you suck so were not letting them get another chance to get the ball"...That right there had to deflate the whole psyche of the defense...sorry...you play to win...not lose...It was caca coaching playing close to the vest.

miktoxic

@nickers said:
Well thats like telling your defense "oh btw you suck so were not letting them get another chance to get the ball"...That right there had to deflate the whole psyche of the defense...sorry...you play to win...not lose...It was caca coaching playing close to the vest.

i agree nicks but what other option do we really have? we have lousy receivers a weak right side of the line which makes our offense one dimensional...ala....give the ball to hillis or throw to watson. other than that what is there?

draft next year is KEY!!!!!