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  • I don't consider opening the second half with an onside kick to be conservative. I don't consider throwing on first down to be conservative. I don't consider freaky formations and jet sweep pass options to be conservative.

    Mistakes? yes.

    Poor execution? Sure.

    Conservative? Not as much as everyone likes to say.

    @earl34 said:

    I don't consider opening the second half with an onside kick to be conservative. I don't consider throwing on first down to be conservative. I don't consider freaky formations and jet sweep pass options to be conservative.

    Mistakes? yes.

    Poor execution? Sure.

    Conservative? Not as much as everyone likes to say.

    how about crappy clock management?

  • I think the Cleveland media is full of shit and march in time to cover their own asses .

  • My biggest beef with Mangini is the whole talent/character perspective

    A good coach can take in a talented player with character concerns, and make him a good player without concerns at all

    I get really mad when we pass up on talented FA's and draft picks because of character

    I know its important, I know someone constantly in trouble hurts the team, but you can mold guys, and your can help them, you can mentor them, and coach them. Look at Tampa.... Blount and Mike Williams... Then look at cincy.... theres different ways to handle those types of players, and I want a coach who not only takes risks in the field, but takes risks on players, because when I look at Vick in Philly, an DeSean Jackson, and I look at Dez Bryant, and Blount, and Williams... etc etc....

    I get really Jealous, because I know Mangini is afraid of these guys, he's afraid that he cant coach them, that he cannot mold them... Usually the most beautiful roses have the sharpest thorns, and Mangini is afraid of being pricked

  • PL, I understand the metaphor, but I'm going to pretend the word "beautiful" was not used in reference to a football player!

  • PL, I understand the metaphor, but I'm going to pretend the word "beautiful" was not used in reference to a football player!

    @unsympathetic said:

    PL, I understand the metaphor, but I'm going to pretend the word "beautiful" was not used in reference to a football player!

    Actually the word beautiful is used a lot for football players and coaches.

    2001 people magazine named a certain head coach 100 most beautiful person.

    I forget who the coach was though 😉

  • Jake Mangini posed as tough a question to his dad as any faced all season by Cleveland’s embattled coach.

    And Eric Mangini was stumped.

    “He asked if we were moving,” Mangini said Friday, referring to his 6-year-old son. “I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, Jake. We’ll figure it out.”’

    Dont worry son, ballboys like myself are always in demand..

  • Jake Mangini posed as tough a question to his dad as any faced all season by Cleveland’s embattled coach.

    And Eric Mangini was stumped.

    “He asked if we were moving,” Mangini said Friday, referring to his 6-year-old son. “I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, Jake. We’ll figure it out.”’

    Dont worry son, ballboys like myself are always in demand..

    @gips said:

    Jake Mangini posed as tough a question to his dad as any faced all season by Cleveland’s embattled coach.

    And Eric Mangini was stumped.

    “He asked if we were moving,” Mangini said Friday, referring to his 6-year-old son. “I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, Jake. We’ll figure it out.”’

    Dont worry son, ballboys like myself are always in demand..

    You're an A**HOLE GIPS..UNNECESSARY. thats BS..slapdick

    Sorry Atenears..ban me if you have to

  • @gips said:

    Jake Mangini posed as tough a question to his dad as any faced all season by Cleveland’s embattled coach.

    And Eric Mangini was stumped.

    “He asked if we were moving,” Mangini said Friday, referring to his 6-year-old son. “I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, Jake. We’ll figure it out.”’

    Dont worry son, ballboys like myself are always in demand..

    You're an A**HOLE GIPS..UNNECESSARY. thats BS..slapdick

    Sorry Atenears..ban me if you have to

    @peterbell said:

    You're an A**HOLE GIPS..UNNECESSARY. thats BS..slapdick

    Sorry Atenears..ban me if you have to

    gips is the ultimate: HATER IN THE HOUSE!

    i'd be surprised if he's not in a neck brace from all the looking left and right. one day he thinks mangini is on "the right track" and he's "winning me over" and the next ............hang him high!

  • @gips said:

    Jake Mangini posed as tough a question to his dad as any faced all season by Cleveland’s embattled coach.

    And Eric Mangini was stumped.

    “He asked if we were moving,” Mangini said Friday, referring to his 6-year-old son. “I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, Jake. We’ll figure it out.”’

    Dont worry son, ballboys like myself are always in demand..

    You're an A**HOLE GIPS..UNNECESSARY. thats BS..slapdick

    Sorry Atenears..ban me if you have to

    @peterbell said:

    You're an A**HOLE GIPS..UNNECESSARY. thats BS..slapdick

    Sorry Atenears..ban me if you have to

    No I agree.

  • Formerly Stone said:

    You're sick of Cleveland Browns football? You have two choices:

    1. Take a page from the veteran Browns fans and get used to it!

    2. Go to any one of the 31 other NFL teams.

    yeah or move to shittsburgh and marry your cousin (male or female, doesn't matter) and have the sea hag spit out some inbred mutts that the government (we the people) have to take care of cuz the job at quiff burger only pays minimum wage.

    dick.