Browns Fire Eric Mangini
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Coaching treeThe following coaches either coached under or played for Paul Brown and were influenced at least to some degree by him and his football knowledge and offensive system:
Blanton Collier (coach under Paul Brown)
Weeb Ewbank (coach under Paul Brown)
Abe Gibron (player)
Sid Gillman (coach)
Otto Graham (player for Paul Brown)
Bill "Tiger" Johnson (coach under Paul Brown)
Chuck Noll (player for Paul Brown)
Ara Parseghian (player for Paul Brown)
Lou Saban (player for Paul Brown)
Don Shula (player for Paul Brown)
Bill Walsh (coach under Paul Brown)
Sam Wyche (player and head coach under team President Paul Brown)
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In hindsight its too bad Cleveland didn't get a 1 year head start on rebuilding with a good coach rather than a mediocre coach in Mangini.
Ultimately its the Cleveland fans who spent far too much time defending a mediocre coach who can be "thanked" for helping to keep Mangini around for another year - however I do understand that when it comes to recent Browns history, mediocrity is a dramatic improvement.
There's no shortage of examples of teams that have been as bad or even worse than Cleveland turning things around once they've brought in a coach who commands the respect of the players. And personnel-wise, Cleveland was and is better off than many of them. True, players on the Browns range from mediocre to good - but a good coach makes mediocre players good and good ones great.
In hindsight its too bad Cleveland didn't get a 1 year head start on rebuilding with a good coach rather than a mediocre coach in Mangini.
Ultimately its the Cleveland fans who spent far too much time defending a mediocre coach who can be "thanked" for helping to keep Mangini around for another year - however I do understand that when it comes to recent Browns history, mediocrity is a dramatic improvement.
There's no shortage of examples of teams that have been as bad or even worse than Cleveland turning things around once they've brought in a coach who commands the respect of the players. And personnel-wise, Cleveland was and is better off than many of them. True, players on the Browns range from mediocre to good - but a good coach makes mediocre players good and good ones great.
There is no better example of that than your DC. Dick LeBeau. He has taken a defense with a couple of good players and a bunch of mediocre ones and turned them into a great defense.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Found this in regards to Jim Harbaugh...We have one of the top GM's in the NFL and a top notch front office structure. Just saying...
On Harbaugh, yes, the 49ers have perhaps the most dysfunctional front office of any NFL team. That is why he may be looking at Denver.....and, you never know, with the connection with Holmgren the Browns may be interested as well.
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On Dick LeBeau.....what "coaching tree" does he fall into? Squarely into the Paul Brown tree, more or less.
Of course, he falls under the "Woody Hayes" tree as well, having played for him in college. But LeBeau got his start as an NFL asst. coach under Mark MacCormack, who of course was a HOF player for Paul Brown.
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And check out this coaching tree:
And you might ask: Whose tree did Marty fall from. The answer is "Lou Saban" who was his coach with the Bills.
And of course what tree did Saban grow on?: Paul Brown's.
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How many ncaa coaches become good nfl coaches?
Jimmy johnson and tom coughlin? I'm talkin this era please doe drudge up dick vermeil or john robinson
How many ncaa coaches become good nfl coaches?
Jimmy johnson and tom coughlin? I'm talkin this era please doe drudge up dick vermeil or john robinson
Charlie Weis went from to HC at Notre Dame to OC in Kansas City and they had a good year. I know, they had an easy schedule, but they play the schedule they were given. Charlie Weis is now going to Florida to work as an OC. Go Gators!
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How many ncaa coaches become good nfl coaches?
Jimmy johnson and tom coughlin? I'm talkin this era please doe drudge up dick vermeil or john robinson
How many ncaa coaches become good nfl coaches?
Jimmy johnson and tom coughlin? I'm talkin this era please doe drudge up dick vermeil or john robinson
How many actually get a shot? 1 every couple years? With the turnover rate of NFL head coaches, not very good odds of hitting on that guy. Not very good chances hitting on NFL coaches either.
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Jim Harbaugh would be an absolutely amazing get. Young up and coming superstar learns under the master of the WCO? It's perfect.
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Mangina
Mangina
Your ass got fired, Mangina
(giddy up ah oomp papa maw maw)
A couple years ago when everyone here was all excited about Mangina being the new HC, I correctly stated that hiring yesterdays chopped liver wouldn't do shit.
I'm once again correct, as I usually am.
Same for Holmgren. I don't think Holmy gets fired anytime soon but he's not a turn-around guy. The fact that he took a job in dirty, dirty Cleveland shows what credibility the guy has.
Don't expect the next HC to be of pedigree, unless you pay him a substantial premium - which is what the stains might have to do to turn the ship around.
Regards...
... an'at
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Mangina
Mangina
Your ass got fired, Mangina
(giddy up ah oomp papa maw maw)
A couple years ago when everyone here was all excited about Mangina being the new HC, I correctly stated that hiring yesterdays chopped liver wouldn't do shit.
I'm once again correct, as I usually am.
Same for Holmgren. I don't think Holmy gets fired anytime soon but he's not a turn-around guy. The fact that he took a job in dirty, dirty Cleveland shows what credibility the guy has.
Don't expect the next HC to be of pedigree, unless you pay him a substantial premium - which is what the stains might have to do to turn the ship around.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Mangina
Mangina
Your ass got fired, Mangina
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Mangina
Mangina
Your ass got fired, Mangina
(giddy up ah oomp papa maw maw)
A couple years ago when everyone here was all excited about Mangina being the new HC, I correctly stated that hiring yesterdays chopped liver wouldn't do shit.
I'm once again correct, as I usually am.
Same for Holmgren. I don't think Holmy gets fired anytime soon but he's not a turn-around guy. The fact that he took a job in dirty, dirty Cleveland shows what credibility the guy has.
Don't expect the next HC to be of pedigree, unless you pay him a substantial premium - which is what the stains might have to do to turn the ship around.
Regards...
... an'at
The fans of the Cleveland Browns thank you for choosing to post on the The Browns Board in lieu of other team's boards. Your support of Cleveland and this board is appreciated. Go Browns!
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Sherman's name crossed my mind.
I wouldn't be shocked to see him at the helm.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Mike Holmgren(OC at BYU)Brian Billick(OC at Utah St)
Paul Brown(Greatest HC in history and former HC at Navy and Ohio St)
Jim Caldwell(HC at Wake Forest)
Pete Carrol
Don Coryell(HC at Whittier and one of the most innovative minds in NFL history)
Dennis Greene(HC at Stanford)
Marv Levy(HC- CAL, William and Mary)
Steve Mariucci(HC at CAL)
Ron Meyer(HC at SMU)
Jim Mora Sr(HC- UCLA, Occidental, Stanford, Colorado)
Bill Parcells(HC, Air Force)
Mike Shanahan(OC, U. of Florida)
Barry Switzer(HC Oklahoma)
Norv Turner(OC, USC)
Dick Vermeil(HC, Stanford, UCLA)
Sam Wyche(HC, Indiana)
Tony Sparano(HC New Haven)
Steve Spagnuolo(HC Rutgers)
Jimmy Johnson....
Need I continue? Btw, notice a trend there? That trend being Stanford HC's going on to have success as HC's in the NFL?
Let me clarify, guys who were BIG time winners in NCAA and then Big winners in the NFL as head coach..
nick saban, bobby patrino, steve spurrier are my examples of resent guys
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Mangina
Mangina
Your ass got fired, Mangina
(giddy up ah oomp papa maw maw)
A couple years ago when everyone here was all excited about Mangina being the new HC, I correctly stated that hiring yesterdays chopped liver wouldn't do shit.
I'm once again correct, as I usually am.
Same for Holmgren. I don't think Holmy gets fired anytime soon but he's not a turn-around guy. The fact that he took a job in dirty, dirty Cleveland shows what credibility the guy has.
Don't expect the next HC to be of pedigree, unless you pay him a substantial premium - which is what the stains might have to do to turn the ship around.
Regards...
... an'at
The fans of the Cleveland Browns thank you for choosing to post on the The Browns Board in lieu of other team's boards. Your support of Cleveland and this board is appreciated. Go Browns!
The fans of the Cleveland Browns thank you for choosing to post on the The Browns Board in lieu of other team's boards. Your support of Cleveland and this board is appreciated. Go Browns!
The fans of the Cleveland Browns thank you for choosing to post on the The Browns Board in lieu of other team's boards. Your support of Cleveland and this board is appreciated. Go Browns!
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Well here we go again..........the worst result would be Holmgren naming himself as coach and second worst some retart NFL assistant d guy...............and more worst some NFL assistant OL guy
Gary Patterson................funny how the Steelers get their guys from nowhere and just keep on winning
Time to think OFFENSE after ignoring it and losing for twenty years and I do not me OL guys
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Well here we go again..........the worst result would be Holmgren naming himself as coach and second worst some retart NFL assistant d guy...............and more worst some NFL assistant OL guy
Gary Patterson................funny how the Steelers get their guys from nowhere and just keep on winning
Time to think OFFENSE after ignoring it and losing for twenty years and I do not me OL guys
Well here we go again..........the worst result would be Holmgren naming himself as coach and second worst some retart NFL assistant d guy...............and more worst some NFL assistant OL guy
Gary Patterson................funny how the Steelers get their guys from nowhere and just keep on winning
Time to think OFFENSE after ignoring it and losing for twenty years and I do not me OL guys
The fans of the Cleveland Browns thank you for choosing to post on the The Browns Board in lieu of other team's boards. Your support of Cleveland and this board is appreciated. Go Browns!
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I remember when Cleveland didn't want Bill Belichek either. I am not saying that Manigini is the next Belichek but I do believe Holmgren made a mistake today. Proof of his mistake will be seen in Mangini being successful elsewhere. Also after this years draft our next coach gets us to the playoffs clearly illustrating the positive impact Mangini had on this team.
Hopefully we will get a good coach and hopefully it will not be Holmgren. He is one man and he should only have one job for us. I seem to remember Seattle finding out it was a bad idea for Holmgren to do more than one job at a time.
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I was listening to the radio (ESPN) on the way home from work today and Marty Morninweg's name was mentioned as possibly a strong candidate for our head coaching vacancy. I pulled over just in time to violently throw up. When the episode had passed, it occured to me that if we are in fact going to hire another half-a$$ed head coach, we must have a plan. Then I hatched a plan. We will keep Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator. Since we will most likely lose Rob Ryan in the offseason, we will hire his father, 77 year old Buddy Ryan, as defensive coordinator. Next, we hire Tom Cable, who will most likely be let go by Oakland, as Head Coach. Now, we can look forward to watching Buddy and Tom repeatedly punch Brian on the sideline. In the face.
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I think another interesting name that could be out there is Jeff Fisher IF the Titans decide to let him go. That man is just a good coach. My gut feeling right now is that we bring in Fox if we can't persuade Gruden to coach again. If neither of those guys work out, then I think it's Holmgren
I think another interesting name that could be out there is Jeff Fisher IF the Titans decide to let him go. That man is just a good coach. My gut feeling right now is that we bring in Fox if we can't persuade Gruden to coach again. If neither of those guys work out, then I think it's Holmgren
I think Jeff Fisher is an excellent coach as well would love to see his name in the mix if available.
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