2011 COACHING AND FRONT OFFICE MOVEMENT
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he's made his mind up already.
First off, you can't say the Rams had a better season than us. The finished 1 game better than us and played in the worst division in NFL history.
And with the coaching situation, stop trying to act like you have inside info and/or know who's going to be hired. Holmgren doesn't know yet, so unless you plan taking his job, you don't know either.
First off, you can't say the Rams had a better season than us. The finished 1 game better than us and played in the worst division in NFL history.
2 games better than us lol
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First off, you can't say the Rams had a better season than us. The finished 1 game better than us and played in the worst division in NFL history.
2 games better than us lol
2 games better than us lol
ohh my bad lol
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yeah lets just hope this is Holmgren looking like he doesnt know who he wants. When really he already had a verbal agreement with Gruden in week 12
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Was that before or after they had sex with each other?
During.
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Well, Tom Cable's available... yawn...
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List of candidates and statuses:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._far_a_who.html
NFL retreads:
• Jon Gruden, 47: The former Mike Holmgren assistant-coach-turned-network-game-analyst is preparing for ESPN's coverage of the BCS National Championship game on Jan. 10. Efforts to contact him have been unsuccessful. *
• John Fox, 55: Despite a 2-14 season in his last year with Carolina, his record as Panthers coach was 78-74 and included a Super Bowl appearance. He reportedly is taking a week off before acting on his future. *
• Brad Childress, 54: He learned the Holmgren offense under Andy Reid in Philadelphia, while Heckert served there as GM, before becoming head coach of the Vikings. He was fired this year with the team at 3-7, lowering his record to 40-37.
• Josh McDaniels, 34: The Barberton native and former Bill Belichick assistant was fired as Denver head coach after less than two tumultuous seasons and an 11-17 record.
• Jim Mora, 49: He was Steve Mariucci's defensive coordinator in San Francisco and spent two seasons on Holmgren's staff in Seattle before succeeding him. His record of 31-33 included three seasons as Atlanta Falcons coach and one playoff appearance.
• Bill Cowher, 53: The former Browns assistant coach and Pittsburgh Steelers head coach turned down owner Randy Lerner's overture two years ago. He's the only coach on the retread list not represented by LaMonte.
NFL assistant coaches:
• Perry Fewell, 48: The Giants defensive coordinator has been granted permission to interview with the Browns, Panthers and 49ers. *
• Marty Mornhinweg, 48: The Eagles offensive coordinator cannot interview with any team until next week. He told reporters he can't think about possibly interviewing with the Browns. "We'll see," he answered when asked if he expected to. *
• Mike Mularkey, 49: He's been an offensive coordinator with the Steelers, Dolphins and now Falcons, and was 14-18 as head coach of the Bills in 2004-05. He has no affiliation with Holmgren, but his one season in Miami (2006) probably caught the attention of former Dolphins executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas and earned him an interview with the Browns. *
• Karl Dorrell, 42: Bill Parcells liked him enough to name him Miami Dolphins receivers coach, where he also impressed current Browns executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas. He was head coach at UCLA from 2003-07.
• Mike McCoy, 48: Knows the Holmgren offense and worked under Fox for seven of his 10 years with Carolina before joining McDaniels' staff in Denver the past two years.
• Pat Shurmur, 45: The nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, a former defensive coordinator under Holmgren at Green Bay, he coached under Reid in Philadelphia for 10 years before joining the Rams in 2009. The Browns will interview him on Thursday. *
College coaches:
• Jim Harbaugh, 47: The Ohio native and one-time Baltimore Ravens quarterback declined to be interviewed for the Browns' job. He is close to becoming the next coach of the San Francisco 49ers. *
• Urban Meyer, 46: Yet another native of Ohio, his offensive wizardry as coach of the Florida Gators drew the attention of everybody in the NFL, including Belichick, who borrowed concepts from him. But Meyer's recent health problems and desire to spend time with his family makes him a long shot to jump to the NFL.
• Chip Kelly, 47: For two years as offensive coordinator and then two more as head coach, he turned Oregon into a national championship contender. His spread offense averaged 49.3 points and 537.5 yards per game this season.
(* marks an updated paragraph)
FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE WORTHY ARE PROBABLY UNATTAINABLE. I STILL SEE HOLMGREN COMING IN HIMSELF.
Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10 -
List of candidates and statuses:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._far_a_who.html
NFL retreads:
• Jon Gruden, 47: The former Mike Holmgren assistant-coach-turned-network-game-analyst is preparing for ESPN's coverage of the BCS National Championship game on Jan. 10. Efforts to contact him have been unsuccessful. *
• John Fox, 55: Despite a 2-14 season in his last year with Carolina, his record as Panthers coach was 78-74 and included a Super Bowl appearance. He reportedly is taking a week off before acting on his future. *
• Brad Childress, 54: He learned the Holmgren offense under Andy Reid in Philadelphia, while Heckert served there as GM, before becoming head coach of the Vikings. He was fired this year with the team at 3-7, lowering his record to 40-37.
• Josh McDaniels, 34: The Barberton native and former Bill Belichick assistant was fired as Denver head coach after less than two tumultuous seasons and an 11-17 record.
• Jim Mora, 49: He was Steve Mariucci's defensive coordinator in San Francisco and spent two seasons on Holmgren's staff in Seattle before succeeding him. His record of 31-33 included three seasons as Atlanta Falcons coach and one playoff appearance.
• Bill Cowher, 53: The former Browns assistant coach and Pittsburgh Steelers head coach turned down owner Randy Lerner's overture two years ago. He's the only coach on the retread list not represented by LaMonte.
NFL assistant coaches:
• Perry Fewell, 48: The Giants defensive coordinator has been granted permission to interview with the Browns, Panthers and 49ers. *
• Marty Mornhinweg, 48: The Eagles offensive coordinator cannot interview with any team until next week. He told reporters he can't think about possibly interviewing with the Browns. "We'll see," he answered when asked if he expected to. *
• Mike Mularkey, 49: He's been an offensive coordinator with the Steelers, Dolphins and now Falcons, and was 14-18 as head coach of the Bills in 2004-05. He has no affiliation with Holmgren, but his one season in Miami (2006) probably caught the attention of former Dolphins executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas and earned him an interview with the Browns. *
• Karl Dorrell, 42: Bill Parcells liked him enough to name him Miami Dolphins receivers coach, where he also impressed current Browns executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas. He was head coach at UCLA from 2003-07.
• Mike McCoy, 48: Knows the Holmgren offense and worked under Fox for seven of his 10 years with Carolina before joining McDaniels' staff in Denver the past two years.
• Pat Shurmur, 45: The nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, a former defensive coordinator under Holmgren at Green Bay, he coached under Reid in Philadelphia for 10 years before joining the Rams in 2009. The Browns will interview him on Thursday. *
College coaches:
• Jim Harbaugh, 47: The Ohio native and one-time Baltimore Ravens quarterback declined to be interviewed for the Browns' job. He is close to becoming the next coach of the San Francisco 49ers. *
• Urban Meyer, 46: Yet another native of Ohio, his offensive wizardry as coach of the Florida Gators drew the attention of everybody in the NFL, including Belichick, who borrowed concepts from him. But Meyer's recent health problems and desire to spend time with his family makes him a long shot to jump to the NFL.
• Chip Kelly, 47: For two years as offensive coordinator and then two more as head coach, he turned Oregon into a national championship contender. His spread offense averaged 49.3 points and 537.5 yards per game this season.
(* marks an updated paragraph)
FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE WORTHY ARE PROBABLY UNATTAINABLE. I STILL SEE HOLMGREN COMING IN HIMSELF.
List of candidates and statuses
Good shit.
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List of candidates and statuses:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._far_a_who.html
NFL retreads:
• Jon Gruden, 47: The former Mike Holmgren assistant-coach-turned-network-game-analyst is preparing for ESPN's coverage of the BCS National Championship game on Jan. 10. Efforts to contact him have been unsuccessful. *
• John Fox, 55: Despite a 2-14 season in his last year with Carolina, his record as Panthers coach was 78-74 and included a Super Bowl appearance. He reportedly is taking a week off before acting on his future. *
• Brad Childress, 54: He learned the Holmgren offense under Andy Reid in Philadelphia, while Heckert served there as GM, before becoming head coach of the Vikings. He was fired this year with the team at 3-7, lowering his record to 40-37.
• Josh McDaniels, 34: The Barberton native and former Bill Belichick assistant was fired as Denver head coach after less than two tumultuous seasons and an 11-17 record.
• Jim Mora, 49: He was Steve Mariucci's defensive coordinator in San Francisco and spent two seasons on Holmgren's staff in Seattle before succeeding him. His record of 31-33 included three seasons as Atlanta Falcons coach and one playoff appearance.
• Bill Cowher, 53: The former Browns assistant coach and Pittsburgh Steelers head coach turned down owner Randy Lerner's overture two years ago. He's the only coach on the retread list not represented by LaMonte.
NFL assistant coaches:
• Perry Fewell, 48: The Giants defensive coordinator has been granted permission to interview with the Browns, Panthers and 49ers. *
• Marty Mornhinweg, 48: The Eagles offensive coordinator cannot interview with any team until next week. He told reporters he can't think about possibly interviewing with the Browns. "We'll see," he answered when asked if he expected to. *
• Mike Mularkey, 49: He's been an offensive coordinator with the Steelers, Dolphins and now Falcons, and was 14-18 as head coach of the Bills in 2004-05. He has no affiliation with Holmgren, but his one season in Miami (2006) probably caught the attention of former Dolphins executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas and earned him an interview with the Browns. *
• Karl Dorrell, 42: Bill Parcells liked him enough to name him Miami Dolphins receivers coach, where he also impressed current Browns executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas. He was head coach at UCLA from 2003-07.
• Mike McCoy, 48: Knows the Holmgren offense and worked under Fox for seven of his 10 years with Carolina before joining McDaniels' staff in Denver the past two years.
• Pat Shurmur, 45: The nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, a former defensive coordinator under Holmgren at Green Bay, he coached under Reid in Philadelphia for 10 years before joining the Rams in 2009. The Browns will interview him on Thursday. *
College coaches:
• Jim Harbaugh, 47: The Ohio native and one-time Baltimore Ravens quarterback declined to be interviewed for the Browns' job. He is close to becoming the next coach of the San Francisco 49ers. *
• Urban Meyer, 46: Yet another native of Ohio, his offensive wizardry as coach of the Florida Gators drew the attention of everybody in the NFL, including Belichick, who borrowed concepts from him. But Meyer's recent health problems and desire to spend time with his family makes him a long shot to jump to the NFL.
• Chip Kelly, 47: For two years as offensive coordinator and then two more as head coach, he turned Oregon into a national championship contender. His spread offense averaged 49.3 points and 537.5 yards per game this season.
(* marks an updated paragraph)
FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE WORTHY ARE PROBABLY UNATTAINABLE. I STILL SEE HOLMGREN COMING IN HIMSELF.
List of candidates and statuses
Good shit.
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First off, you can't say the Rams had a better season than us. The finished 1 game better than us and played in the worst division in NFL history.
2 games better than us lol
2 games better than us lol
They didn't play anywhere near the toughest schedule in football. two more games against that schedule is a negative.
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There is no way holmgren hires a defensive coordinator. He has cemented his legacy by firing mangini. His next coach had better produce or lerner will fire both of them. Sorry, wanting more pizazz isn't a reason to fire your coach. I've lost a lot of respect for holmgren and think that the only reason he gave mangini another year was because he evaluated the personnel and realized his personal pick couldn't win this year. So why tolerate the backlash, let mangini have another year with a weak team
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There is no way holmgren hires a defensive coordinator. He has cemented his legacy by firing mangini. His next coach had better produce or lerner will fire both of them. Sorry, wanting more pizazz isn't a reason to fire your coach. I've lost a lot of respect for holmgren and think that the only reason he gave mangini another year was because he evaluated the personnel and realized his personal pick couldn't win this year. So why tolerate the backlash, let mangini have another year with a weak team
There is no way holmgren hires a defensive coordinator. He has cemented his legacy by firing mangini. His next coach had better produce or lerner will fire both of them. Sorry, wanting more pizazz isn't a reason to fire your coach. I've lost a lot of respect for holmgren and think that the only reason he gave mangini another year was because he evaluated the personnel and realized his personal pick couldn't win this year. So why tolerate the backlash, let mangini have another year with a weak team
too late.
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2 games better than us lol
They didn't play anywhere near the toughest schedule in football. two more games against that schedule is a negative.
They didn't play anywhere near the toughest schedule in football. two more games against that schedule is a negative.
Correct. They also had six "free wins."
2 vs. Seattle
2 vs. San Francisco
2 vs. Arizona
I don't know how many of those they actually won, but there is no excuse to lose to any of those teams.
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Has anyone seen this?
CLEVELAND -- St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur will interview Friday with the Cleveland Browns for their coaching position.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlinesShurmur will be the first candidate to formally interview with the Browns. The 45-year-old worked previously in Philadelphia with Cleveland's general manager Tom Heckert, who along with team president Mike Holmgren will handle the team's interviews.
The Browns are expected to meet on Saturday with Atlanta offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey. The former Buffalo coach canceled his Friday interview with Denver because he doesn't want to take too much time away from his preparation for next week's playoff game.
Holmgren, who fired Eric Mangini on Monday after two losing seasons, has also asked for permission to speak with New York Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell.
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Has anyone seen this?
CLEVELAND -- St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur will interview Friday with the Cleveland Browns for their coaching position.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlinesShurmur will be the first candidate to formally interview with the Browns. The 45-year-old worked previously in Philadelphia with Cleveland's general manager Tom Heckert, who along with team president Mike Holmgren will handle the team's interviews.
The Browns are expected to meet on Saturday with Atlanta offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey. The former Buffalo coach canceled his Friday interview with Denver because he doesn't want to take too much time away from his preparation for next week's playoff game.
Holmgren, who fired Eric Mangini on Monday after two losing seasons, has also asked for permission to speak with New York Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell.
Has anyone seen this?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines
yep its at the beginning of the thread.
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Gruden won a super bowl with a great team but ran Tampa Bay into the ground. Other than Gruden these guys haven't produce much if anything in the NFL. I could be wrong but I expect our long term struggles to continue and for Holmgren to eventually get fired over this. Prove me wrong Mike
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i'm not trying to start anything here, but i completely disagree with your view of fox. the guy does have several division championships and went to a superbowl. if it weren't for their stupid kicker they may have won it.
I agree. Until this year, his team was always in the playoff hunt and he did come within a kick out of bounds of possibly winning a super bowl. The guy is a good coach and the only reason I don't like him in Cleveland is that I"ve had enough of the defensive guys coaching the team. I want to find the next Sean Payton to coach the Browns next year.
I agree. Until this year, his team was always in the playoff hunt and he did come within a kick out of bounds of possibly winning a super bowl. The guy is a good coach and the only reason I don't like him in Cleveland is that I"ve had enough of the defensive guys coaching the team. I want to find the next Sean Payton to coach the Browns next year.
Actually, living in Charlotte since 04 I have been watching Fox and Hurney screw things up. They had a lot of bad seasons the last several years and the division except for the last couple of years has generally been weak. Fox is a good defensive and about as bad as you can get offensively.
I wanted him fired in Carolina the last three years. Please lord do NOT have him land in Cleveland.
Personally, I like what the 49ers did brought in a winner from college with NFL experience.
Right now without knowing much about the candidates I would make Gary Patterson my leading candidate for the job. If you never roll the dice you have a hard time winning big.
Please also do not hire some assistant whose claim to fame is bringing coffee for a winner head coach which happens a lot and fails a lot
And please do not hire Gruden, he is way overrated and basically a BS artist
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