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    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet.

    That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father.

    Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday.

    "One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers.

    "As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking."

    Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house."

    Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren.

    Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer.

    "Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use.

    "When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship.

    "There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody.

    "Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia."

    Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug.

    "He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching."

    Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday.

    Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate.

    Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad.

    "He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that."

    Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round.

  • Damn it, hire the guy already.

  • Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet.

    That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father.

    Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday.

    "One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers.

    "As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking."

    Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house."

    Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren.

    Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer.

    "Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use.

    "When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship.

    "There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody.

    "Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia."

    Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug.

    "He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching."

    Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday.

    Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate.

    Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad.

    "He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that."

    Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet.

    That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father.

    Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday.

    "One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers.

    "As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking."

    Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house."

    Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren.

    Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer.

    "Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use.

    "When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship.

    "There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody.

    "Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia."

    Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug.

    "He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching."

    Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday.

    Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate.

    Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad.

    "He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that."

    Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round.

    That's great man!!

    "strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"

  • Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon.

    I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon.

    I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me.

    I'd pick Gruden over Holmgren personally. Holmgren didn't have much luck coaching when he was in Seattle and had other responsibilities. Let Holmgren stay where he is, and work through Jon. They're like-minded when it comes to offense anyway, they shouldn't step on each other's toes at all, I would imagine.

  • Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me.

    I'd pick Gruden over Holmgren personally. Holmgren didn't have much luck coaching when he was in Seattle and had other responsibilities. Let Holmgren stay where he is, and work through Jon. They're like-minded when it comes to offense anyway, they shouldn't step on each other's toes at all, I would imagine.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Holmgren didn't have much luck coaching when he was in Seattle

    Yeah Super Bowl....no luck lol

  • Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire.

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    In Jon we trust.

    Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history

    @dawgtracker said:

    Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history

    Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game.

  • Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    @wrrebel said:

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    This is why I make fun of you.

  • Another garbage thread.

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    @wrrebel said:

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    Please show me where I compared the two? I was stating the fact that becuase someone plays/works/coaches for the team they like doesn't mean they are any good. Matter of fact I didn't even mention Grudens name now did I?

    I just think your pissed off because you THINK I was talking about your boy toy.

  • @wrrebel said:

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    This is why I make fun of you.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    This is why I make fun of you.

    I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.

  • @dawgtracker said:

    Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history

    Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game.

    Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    This is why I make fun of you.

    I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.

    @speedyd900rr said:

    I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.

    I thought you would never ask

    goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep.

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    @wrrebel said:

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)

    WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY. 😍

  • @wrrebel said:

    Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..

    Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people

    Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317

    Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)

    WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY. 😍

    @longhorn said:

    Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)

    WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY. 😍

    That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears?