This One is For WRREBEL
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This is why I make fun of you.
I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.
I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.
I thought you would never ask
goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep.
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Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to.
Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..
Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people
Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317
Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..
Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people
Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317
Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)
WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY.
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Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach..
Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people
Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317
Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)
WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY.
Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)
WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY.
That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears?
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I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next.
I thought you would never ask
goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep.
I thought you would never ask
goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep.
Someone reads people.com. You left out the part about Gruden turning into a knife-wielding killer doll at night. Other wuss NFL coaches just suck on their wife's toes at night. When he is in his Chucky alter-ego Gruden runs the South Central LA Offense where knife and uzi wielding players clear the middle of the field for 95 yard quaterback sneaks.
GRUDEN > all.
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Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game.
Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there.
Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there.
So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs.
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I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS?
I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he?
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I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS?
I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he?
I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS?
I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he?
Clay High School in South Bend, IN. Started college at Muskingum, finished at Dayton.
College year book lists him as most likely to become overrated NFL coach.
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Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there.
So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs.
So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs.
Can I pick none of the above?
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So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs.
Can I pick none of the above?
Can I pick none of the above?
The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets.
So this seems to be the checklist:
( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL
( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS
( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER)
(X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year)
(X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview)
( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record
X - already out of play
I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking?
If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis
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Can I pick none of the above?
The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets.
So this seems to be the checklist:
( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL
( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS
( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER)
(X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year)
(X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview)
( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record
X - already out of play
I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking?
If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis
The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets.
So this seems to be the checklist:
( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL
( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS
( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER)
(X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year)
(X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview)
( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record
X - already out of play
I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking?
If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis
Find me the source that says Jon Gruden absolutely won't be coaching in 2011. As far as I know, he has yet to make a decision.
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The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets.
So this seems to be the checklist:
( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL
( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS
( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER)
(X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year)
(X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview)
( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record
X - already out of play
I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking?
If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis
Find me the source that says Jon Gruden absolutely won't be coaching in 2011. As far as I know, he has yet to make a decision.
Find me the source that says Jon Gruden absolutely won't be coaching in 2011. As far as I know, he has yet to make a decision.
Ask Weasel. He knows everything the guy does before he even does it.
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I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS?
I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he?
I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS?
I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he?
Clay HS, South Bend. Hey, it's THE University of Dayton, hate to admit I graduated from there too. Oh, and I had to check his bio on Wiki- was only the backup quarterback on Dayton's Division III football team, which means he wasn't very good. May have to drive down Evanston in the UD ghetto to see if his house is still standing.
And since you're into trivia Gipper- what other REAL FAMOUS NFL personage graduated from UD? (no cheating)
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Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?)
WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY.
That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears?
That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears?
Gruden is the perfect fit for this club and i hope he seriously considers coming to cleveland and coaching again..
Holmgren needs to get straight to work on it and not take no for an answer!
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet.
That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father.
Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday.
"One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers.
"As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking."
Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house."
Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren.
Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer.
"Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use.
"When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship.
"There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody.
"Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia."
Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug.
"He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching."
Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday.
Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate.
Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad.
"He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that."
Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round.
That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
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That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Petersmell, replace scotty with peter and this is your song
Scotty doesn't know that Fiona and me
Do it in my van every Sunday.
She tells him she's in church but she doesn't go
Still she's on her knees and Scotty doesn't know!
Oh Scotty doesn't know!
So Don't Tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty doesn't know!
So Don't Tell Scotty!
Fiona says she's out shopping,
But she's under me and I'm not stopping...
Because Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty doesn't know! (X3)
So don't tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!
Don't tell Scotty!
I can't believe he's so trusting,
While I'm right behind you thrusting.
Fiona's got him on the phone,
And she's trying not to moan.
It's a three-way call and he knows nothing!
Scotty doesn't know!(X3)
So don't tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!(X3)
We'll put on a show!
Everyone will go!
Scotty doesn't know!(x3)
The parkin lot
Why not? It's so cool when you're on top!
His front lawn in the snow
Life is so hard because Scotty doesn't know!
We did it on his birthday...
Scotty doesn't know!(X4)
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty won't know!
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty's gotta know!
Gotta tell Scotty!
Gotta tell him myself!
Scotty doesn't know! (X10)
[Chant] Scotty doesn't know! (x7)
[Chant] Scotty's gotta go!
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Main reason I was against Gruden was 1: I didn't want another coaching change when we have only given Mangini half as long as we gave Crennel while Mangini is at least twice as good as Crennel ever was and Mangini was taking the team in the right direction and 2: It seemed mostly that all the people who wanted Gruden (wonder who) were rooting for us to lose so that there would be a better chance of Mangini getting fired.
Now that Mangini is fired Gruden is more than likely going to be the best guy for the job. None of the other WCO options will do as good of a job. We have the coordinator of the eagles who only won 5 games in two-three years with the lions and his "great" offense with the eagles right now is more because of the speedsters Vick, Jackson, Maclain, and McCoy. Give those players to Dabol and I think he can at least muster a top 20 offense. John Fox in my opinion is at the end of his coaching career. True he didn't have much talent to work with the last two years at Carolina, but his teams have been declining over the years regardless.
Plus if we don't go WCO guy, I think there is a good chance we look else where for QB in the draft. I like McCoy but I just don't see a coach who runs any other system going with him.
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Petersmell?? WTF..Can you get any lamer...a swing and a miss
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
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WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
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WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
Hahahaha now that is funny shit!
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Grats to WRREBEL who has, almost single-handedly turned this entire board in favor of Gruden.
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