This One is For WRREBEL
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet.
That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father.
Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday.
"One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers.
"As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking."
Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house."
Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren.
Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer.
"Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use.
"When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship.
"There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody.
"Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia."
Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug.
"He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching."
Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday.
Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate.
Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad.
"He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that."
Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round.
That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
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That's great man!!
"strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances"
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Here is the perfect song..It fits you to a tee WRREBEL
Day after day alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Well on the way, his head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
is talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyri...-4)-lyrics.html]
See the world spinning round
And nobody seems to like him
they can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings
But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round
Petersmell, replace scotty with peter and this is your song
Scotty doesn't know that Fiona and me
Do it in my van every Sunday.
She tells him she's in church but she doesn't go
Still she's on her knees and Scotty doesn't know!
Oh Scotty doesn't know!
So Don't Tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty doesn't know!
So Don't Tell Scotty!
Fiona says she's out shopping,
But she's under me and I'm not stopping...
Because Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty doesn't know! (X3)
So don't tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!
Don't tell Scotty!
I can't believe he's so trusting,
While I'm right behind you thrusting.
Fiona's got him on the phone,
And she's trying not to moan.
It's a three-way call and he knows nothing!
Scotty doesn't know!(X3)
So don't tell Scotty!
Scotty doesn't know!(X3)
We'll put on a show!
Everyone will go!
Scotty doesn't know!(x3)
The parkin lot
Why not? It's so cool when you're on top!
His front lawn in the snow
Life is so hard because Scotty doesn't know!
We did it on his birthday...
Scotty doesn't know!(X4)
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty won't know!
Scotty doesn't know!
Scotty's gotta know!
Gotta tell Scotty!
Gotta tell him myself!
Scotty doesn't know! (X10)
[Chant] Scotty doesn't know! (x7)
[Chant] Scotty's gotta go!
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Main reason I was against Gruden was 1: I didn't want another coaching change when we have only given Mangini half as long as we gave Crennel while Mangini is at least twice as good as Crennel ever was and Mangini was taking the team in the right direction and 2: It seemed mostly that all the people who wanted Gruden (wonder who) were rooting for us to lose so that there would be a better chance of Mangini getting fired.
Now that Mangini is fired Gruden is more than likely going to be the best guy for the job. None of the other WCO options will do as good of a job. We have the coordinator of the eagles who only won 5 games in two-three years with the lions and his "great" offense with the eagles right now is more because of the speedsters Vick, Jackson, Maclain, and McCoy. Give those players to Dabol and I think he can at least muster a top 20 offense. John Fox in my opinion is at the end of his coaching career. True he didn't have much talent to work with the last two years at Carolina, but his teams have been declining over the years regardless.
Plus if we don't go WCO guy, I think there is a good chance we look else where for QB in the draft. I like McCoy but I just don't see a coach who runs any other system going with him.
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Petersmell?? WTF..Can you get any lamer...a swing and a miss
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer
But the fool on the hill
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WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
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WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
WRREBEL Theme Song (Invisible by Clay Aiken):
Whatcha’ doin’ tonight
I wish I could be a fly on your wall
Are you really alone
Who's stealin' your dreams
Why can't I bring you into my life
What would it take to make you see that I'm alive
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I could just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
Saw your face in the crowd
I call out your name
You don't hear a sound
I keep tracing your steps
Each move that you make
Wish I could read what goes through your mind
Wish you could touch me with the colors of your life
[Chorus]
If I was invisible
Then I could just watch you in your room
If I was invincible
I'd make you mine tonight
If hearts were unbreakable
Then I can just tell you where I stand
I would be the smartest man
If I was invisible
(Wait..I already am)
I reach out
But you don't even see me
Even when I'm scream out
Baby, you don't hear me
I am nothing without you
Just a shadow passing through...
[Repeat Chorus]
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
If I was invisible...
Hahahaha now that is funny shit!
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Grats to WRREBEL who has, almost single-handedly turned this entire board in favor of Gruden.
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or he likes getting paid by the network and his old team making many-multi-millions while still watching his kid.
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Another garbage thread.
Another garbage thread.
Don't you dig the online serenades?
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