Huck Finn Censored
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First of all, I love fried chicken and watermelon. In fact, we plan on having chickens/coop this spring, and I
will grow watermelon. I wonder if that means I will find my rythm... cool ! @@
And, Dogma, I say this about that:
Do you mean that the "N" word is more powerful even though people of Appalachian heritage were working in coal mines for pennies a day, and dying of black lung? And were getting killed in poorly constructed mines?
And, when they wanted higher wages to be able to eat and not owe the coal company more money than they made, they were beaten up and/or killed by company thugs? Or left to die with their injuries by the coal company who wouldn't pay for their medical care?
Their widowed women and children were left as starving waifs with no incomes, kicked out of the union housing, sometimes by force?
Or getting injured cutting trees for firewood to heat their homes, or farming? Or intimidated into "selling" their farms to
corrupt strip mining companies? Working long days harvesting and storing food so they wouldn't starve over winter?
My point is, I don't cherry pick the issues I feel are unjust out of politics. "UNJUST" is label administered by having PRINCIPLES.
I care about more than just one incidence of travesty. It isn't about votes for my party. That is why I find it ludicrous to
say one slur is a lot worse than another slur.
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First of all, I love fried chicken and watermelon. In fact, we plan on having chickens/coop this spring, and I
will grow watermelon. I wonder if that means I will find my rythm... cool ! @@
And, Dogma, I say this about that:
Do you mean that the "N" word is more powerful even though people of Appalachian heritage were working in coal mines for pennies a day, and dying of black lung? And were getting killed in poorly constructed mines?
And, when they wanted higher wages to be able to eat and not owe the coal company more money than they made, they were beaten up and/or killed by company thugs? Or left to die with their injuries by the coal company who wouldn't pay for their medical care?
Their widowed women and children were left as starving waifs with no incomes, kicked out of the union housing, sometimes by force?
Or getting injured cutting trees for firewood to heat their homes, or farming? Or intimidated into "selling" their farms to
corrupt strip mining companies? Working long days harvesting and storing food so they wouldn't starve over winter?
My point is, I don't cherry pick the issues I feel are unjust out of politics. "UNJUST" is label administered by having PRINCIPLES.
I care about more than just one incidence of travesty. It isn't about votes for my party. That is why I find it ludicrous to
say one slur is a lot worse than another slur.
First of all, I love fried chicken and watermelon. In fact, we plan on having chickens/coop this spring, and I
will grow watermelon. I wonder if that means I will find my rythm... cool ! @@
And, Dogma, I say this about that:
Do you mean that the "N" word is more powerful even though people of Appalachian heritage were working in coal mines for pennies a day, and dying of black lung? And were getting killed in poorly constructed mines?
And, when they wanted higher wages to be able to eat and not owe the coal company more money than they made, they were beaten up and/or killed by company thugs? Or left to die with their injuries by the coal company who wouldn't pay for their medical care?
Their widowed women and children were left as starving waifs with no incomes, kicked out of the union housing, sometimes by force?
Or getting injured cutting trees for firewood to heat their homes, or farming? Or intimidated into "selling" their farms to
corrupt strip mining companies? Working long days harvesting and storing food so they wouldn't starve over winter?
My point is, I don't cherry pick the issues I feel are unjust out of politics. "UNJUST" is label administered by having PRINCIPLES.
I care about more than just one incidence of travesty. It isn't about votes for my party. That is why I find it ludicrous to
say one slur is a lot worse than another slur.
Cal I'm not going to pretend that you don't already know the difference. The plight of coal miners is well documented and PART OF WHY I am pro labor.
There is positively no way possible to compare them to American slaves. Period. Slavery has happened throughout history, but the slavery in this country was among the most unique and destructive in all of history. In ancient days in many cultures slaves were treated as servants and able to earn citizenry. Yea, there are plenty of examples of brutality, but there are very, very, very few examples of a people who were literally treated as livestock, to the point of breeding and selling. Plus, this happened in this country during an enlightened time. A time when most people had a higher level of intelligence and understanding. It took a lot of denial to believe these people were not humans.
Again, use the slur, accept the consequences. Stop insisting that you should be able to insult anybody you want with out consequence. If someone called me a cracker or hillbilly or liberal I would say, please don't refer to me in that way.
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Avoiding it?
Sorry.
OK I think that's a ridiculous point.
Better?
WSS
Seriously?
You don't think it's either monumentally hilarious or tragically sad that Dr. Laura quit her well paying job to claim a false-hood?
No of course your focused on the regular everyday, maybe not so bright (like Dr. Laura) person who phoned in and made a fool of herself in exactly the same way most people do when they phone in on radio shows.
You actually believe Dr. Laura is a victim?
Seriously????
WOw!
Seriously?
You don't think it's either monumentally hilarious or tragically sad that Dr. Laura quit her well paying job to claim a false-hood?
I guess I'm missing that falsehood.
What was it?
No of course your focused on the regular everyday, maybe not so bright (like Dr. Laura) person who phoned in and made a fool of herself in exactly the same way most people do when they phone in on radio shows.
You actually believe Dr. Laura is a victim?
Seriously????
WOw!
I don't think she claimed to be a victim.
I think her answer to the woman was the correct one.
I did not take offense at her quoting the N word especially in the manner she did.
As has been done here now.
I think the outrage shown is over the top BC.
Calling someone a bad name is rude, and I try to aviod it.
She didn't even do that.
If she quit on her own so what.
If she was forced (of which there's no evidence) I'd personally be lsee inclined to do business with those sponsrs.
BTW I can't stand Howard Sterns show but I think he got hosed.
So did Don Imus.
So did the college kid persecuted for saying the raucous dorm party sounded like a herd of water buffalo.
WSS
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Stop insisting that you should be able to insult anybody you want with out consequence.. Dogma
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That's bogus, dogma. I never did any such thing. go back and read my posts.
You're the one who wants to say that the "N" is bad, but "Hillbilly" was fine, because it wasn't as bad, at least before.
I'm saying, that both are bad, but the former is considered really bad, and the latter is accepted. I believe
that's out of political expediency.
I know the repulsive slavery stuff is a serious thing... but the plight of the "Hillbillies" wasn't much of a joke, either.
But, since when can we figure some slurs are fine, depending on the evaluation of legit reasons the offended have?
Victims of the "N" word, have no sole claim to being offended by slurs, that's all I was trying to explain.
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If the "N" word is so wrong then how come alot of young black people call each other the "N" word on a normal basis? It's hard to find one rap song that doesn't have that word that ends in igga.
I just dont get it. If they are willing to refer to each other with that name then why block it at all? Do they think all those kids who are brain washed by mtv doesnt know what it means?
Also, why is it that blacks can call whites crackers? Would it be ok if we went on television and refered to them as brownies or would Jesse Jackson stand up and support his fellow African Americans all while ignoring white peoples rights to?
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It's cause your black
So why's it cause I'm black?
Are you trying that my overall standardized math test scores fall below the standardized scores of other ethnic groups bitch!
That's not what your mom said last night!
So why's it cause I'm black?
Are you trying that my overall standardized math test scores fall below the standardized scores of other ethnic groups bitch!
That's not what your mom said last night!
Where do I start with this one. Dude, the joke is in the comment. I have black friends, one named Ralph, yes Ralph and black, is our lead programmer, smart dude. The whole idea of racial stereotypes is bullshit and I find it funny how people react. The people who buy into to them show their intelligence and THAT is what I find funny. Yes I like extra mayo, love fried chicken and watermelon, have tons of rhythm, yet do not sell crack and don't smoke Newports. I am 1/4 black and I be so white, I literally glow in the winter. Dude EVERYONE is a half breed of some sort. By 2100, we will all be one race. Calm down and take it with a grain of salt. Don't buy into the bullshit of keeping culture apart. That is the intention of stereotypes, nothing more.
Dogma, embrace the fact that Jews are cheap, Honkeys can't dance, Slant Eyes sing karaoke 16 hour a day, Niggas sell crack, Beaners are lazy, Sand Niggas ride camels, because the sooner you do, the sooner you will realize all of it is bullshit. Take a step back and think about it. These stereotypes were put in place to diminish the other culture to keep them apart to make it more mysterious and scary, when in actuality, my black friend Ralph from Wilmington, actually shops at the Gap, my Mexican friend from Denver John Alegrea is the hardest worker I know, my Jewish friend David in Cleveland never let me put my hand in my pocket to by a beer (yes he had money, but not cheap), never seen an Oriental sing karaoke expect in the movies and as for Arabs, I think some actually do ride camels, lol.
Dude calm down and don't put so much stock into what people say. A long time ago, I came to the conclusion of not correcting people when they said N***** and MEANT it. I just sit back and laugh at his dumb ass, life is too short my friend. Let them go through their life and live under a veil of stupidity. You can't buy that type of entertainment.
As the genius Dave Chapelle said, "Our differences are only cultural, people".
Peace, nigga.
p.s. If you would like I can tell you where everyone of these stereotypes originated and why if you would like.
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First of all, I love fried chicken and watermelon. In fact, we plan on having chickens/coop this spring, and I
will grow watermelon. I wonder if that means I will find my rythm... cool ! @@
And, Dogma, I say this about that:
Do you mean that the "N" word is more powerful even though people of Appalachian heritage were working in coal mines for pennies a day, and dying of black lung? And were getting killed in poorly constructed mines?
And, when they wanted higher wages to be able to eat and not owe the coal company more money than they made, they were beaten up and/or killed by company thugs? Or left to die with their injuries by the coal company who wouldn't pay for their medical care?
Their widowed women and children were left as starving waifs with no incomes, kicked out of the union housing, sometimes by force?
Or getting injured cutting trees for firewood to heat their homes, or farming? Or intimidated into "selling" their farms to
corrupt strip mining companies? Working long days harvesting and storing food so they wouldn't starve over winter?
My point is, I don't cherry pick the issues I feel are unjust out of politics. "UNJUST" is label administered by having PRINCIPLES.
I care about more than just one incidence of travesty. It isn't about votes for my party. That is why I find it ludicrous to
say one slur is a lot worse than another slur.
Cal I'm not going to pretend that you don't already know the difference. The plight of coal miners is well documented and PART OF WHY I am pro labor.
There is positively no way possible to compare them to American slaves. Period. Slavery has happened throughout history, but the slavery in this country was among the most unique and destructive in all of history. In ancient days in many cultures slaves were treated as servants and able to earn citizenry. Yea, there are plenty of examples of brutality, but there are very, very, very few examples of a people who were literally treated as livestock, to the point of breeding and selling. Plus, this happened in this country during an enlightened time. A time when most people had a higher level of intelligence and understanding. It took a lot of denial to believe these people were not humans.
Again, use the slur, accept the consequences. Stop insisting that you should be able to insult anybody you want with out consequence. If someone called me a cracker or hillbilly or liberal I would say, please don't refer to me in that way.
If someone called me a cracker or hillbilly or liberal I would say, please don't refer to me in that way.
Like when George Costanza went to the rageaholics meeting, and the speaker said "please don't call me pin head". "Please do not refer to me with those insidious stereotypes, it would be much appreciated, thank you." LOL!!! You should say you actually are oriental and your theme song is Mr. Roboto.
Or you should just start acting like the biggest hillbilly you know. Put on a Steelers t-shirt, a pair of stone washed jeans and rape a goat.
Peace honky.
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So why's it cause I'm black?
Are you trying that my overall standardized math test scores fall below the standardized scores of other ethnic groups bitch!
That's not what your mom said last night!
Where do I start with this one. Dude, the joke is in the comment. I have black friends, one named Ralph, yes Ralph and black, is our lead programmer, smart dude. The whole idea of racial stereotypes is bullshit and I find it funny how people react. The people who buy into to them show their intelligence and THAT is what I find funny. Yes I like extra mayo, love fried chicken and watermelon, have tons of rhythm, yet do not sell crack and don't smoke Newports. I am 1/4 black and I be so white, I literally glow in the winter. Dude EVERYONE is a half breed of some sort. By 2100, we will all be one race. Calm down and take it with a grain of salt. Don't buy into the bullshit of keeping culture apart. That is the intention of stereotypes, nothing more.
Dogma, embrace the fact that Jews are cheap, Honkeys can't dance, Slant Eyes sing karaoke 16 hour a day, Niggas sell crack, Beaners are lazy, Sand Niggas ride camels, because the sooner you do, the sooner you will realize all of it is bullshit. Take a step back and think about it. These stereotypes were put in place to diminish the other culture to keep them apart to make it more mysterious and scary, when in actuality, my black friend Ralph from Wilmington, actually shops at the Gap, my Mexican friend from Denver John Alegrea is the hardest worker I know, my Jewish friend David in Cleveland never let me put my hand in my pocket to by a beer (yes he had money, but not cheap), never seen an Oriental sing karaoke expect in the movies and as for Arabs, I think some actually do ride camels, lol.
Dude calm down and don't put so much stock into what people say. A long time ago, I came to the conclusion of not correcting people when they said N***** and MEANT it. I just sit back and laugh at his dumb ass, life is too short my friend. Let them go through their life and live under a veil of stupidity. You can't buy that type of entertainment.
As the genius Dave Chapelle said, "Our differences are only cultural, people".
Peace, nigga.
p.s. If you would like I can tell you where everyone of these stereotypes originated and why if you would like.
Where do I start with this one. Dude, the joke is in the comment. I have black friends, one named Ralph, yes Ralph and black, is our lead programmer, smart dude. The whole idea of racial stereotypes is bullshit and I find it funny how people react. The people who buy into to them show their intelligence and THAT is what I find funny. Yes I like extra mayo, love fried chicken and watermelon, have tons of rhythm, yet do not sell crack and don't smoke Newports. I am 1/4 black and I be so white, I literally glow in the winter. Dude EVERYONE is a half breed of some sort. By 2100, we will all be one race. Calm down and take it with a grain of salt. Don't buy into the bullshit of keeping culture apart. That is the intention of stereotypes, nothing more.
Dogma, embrace the fact that Jews are cheap, Honkeys can't dance, Slant Eyes sing karaoke 16 hour a day, Niggas sell crack, Beaners are lazy, Sand Niggas ride camels, because the sooner you do, the sooner you will realize all of it is bullshit. Take a step back and think about it. These stereotypes were put in place to diminish the other culture to keep them apart to make it more mysterious and scary, when in actuality, my black friend Ralph from Wilmington, actually shops at the Gap, my Mexican friend from Denver John Alegrea is the hardest worker I know, my Jewish friend David in Cleveland never let me put my hand in my pocket to by a beer (yes he had money, but not cheap), never seen an Oriental sing karaoke expect in the movies and as for Arabs, I think some actually do ride camels, lol.
Dude calm down and don't put so much stock into what people say. A long time ago, I came to the conclusion of not correcting people when they said N***** and MEANT it. I just sit back and laugh at his dumb ass, life is too short my friend. Let them go through their life and live under a veil of stupidity. You can't buy that type of entertainment.
As the genius Dave Chapelle said, "Our differences are only cultural, people".
Peace, nigga.
p.s. If you would like I can tell you where everyone of these stereotypes originated and why if you would like.
Apparently people think I'm a lot more hyper than I actually am. When I get my blood pressure checked they usually ask me if I just woke up or something. Most people call me a sarcastic smart ass. I don't give two craps about what people say about each other. Apparently to some, it seems I've been going over board, but usually I'm just trying to stay awake. Point is, if you say some thing about someone and they get pissed and ask you not to, you can't really call them a jerk for getting upset.
BTW Kosar, I was lamely trying to make a joke with you. I'm so white I'm nearly transparent. Anyway, I've got a few more Dortmunders to get through before the end of the night, which might have some influence on the coherency of what I post.
And Oh yea, I got a black friend. Well I got a bunch of black friends, well actually where I work I'm part of the minority. I get called the N word all day long and usually get a laugh when I answer with the same.
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Where do I start with this one. Dude, the joke is in the comment. I have black friends, one named Ralph, yes Ralph and black, is our lead programmer, smart dude. The whole idea of racial stereotypes is bullshit and I find it funny how people react. The people who buy into to them show their intelligence and THAT is what I find funny. Yes I like extra mayo, love fried chicken and watermelon, have tons of rhythm, yet do not sell crack and don't smoke Newports. I am 1/4 black and I be so white, I literally glow in the winter. Dude EVERYONE is a half breed of some sort. By 2100, we will all be one race. Calm down and take it with a grain of salt. Don't buy into the bullshit of keeping culture apart. That is the intention of stereotypes, nothing more.
Dogma, embrace the fact that Jews are cheap, Honkeys can't dance, Slant Eyes sing karaoke 16 hour a day, Niggas sell crack, Beaners are lazy, Sand Niggas ride camels, because the sooner you do, the sooner you will realize all of it is bullshit. Take a step back and think about it. These stereotypes were put in place to diminish the other culture to keep them apart to make it more mysterious and scary, when in actuality, my black friend Ralph from Wilmington, actually shops at the Gap, my Mexican friend from Denver John Alegrea is the hardest worker I know, my Jewish friend David in Cleveland never let me put my hand in my pocket to by a beer (yes he had money, but not cheap), never seen an Oriental sing karaoke expect in the movies and as for Arabs, I think some actually do ride camels, lol.
Dude calm down and don't put so much stock into what people say. A long time ago, I came to the conclusion of not correcting people when they said N***** and MEANT it. I just sit back and laugh at his dumb ass, life is too short my friend. Let them go through their life and live under a veil of stupidity. You can't buy that type of entertainment.
As the genius Dave Chapelle said, "Our differences are only cultural, people".
Peace, nigga.
p.s. If you would like I can tell you where everyone of these stereotypes originated and why if you would like.
Apparently people think I'm a lot more hyper than I actually am. When I get my blood pressure checked they usually ask me if I just woke up or something. Most people call me a sarcastic smart ass. I don't give two craps about what people say about each other. Apparently to some, it seems I've been going over board, but usually I'm just trying to stay awake. Point is, if you say some thing about someone and they get pissed and ask you not to, you can't really call them a jerk for getting upset.
BTW Kosar, I was lamely trying to make a joke with you. I'm so white I'm nearly transparent. Anyway, I've got a few more Dortmunders to get through before the end of the night, which might have some influence on the coherency of what I post.
And Oh yea, I got a black friend. Well I got a bunch of black friends, well actually where I work I'm part of the minority. I get called the N word all day long and usually get a laugh when I answer with the same.
Apparently people think I'm a lot more hyper than I actually am. When I get my blood pressure checked they usually ask me if I just woke up or something. Most people call me a sarcastic smart ass. I don't give two craps about what people say about each other. Apparently to some, it seems I've been going over board, but usually I'm just trying to stay awake. Point is, if you say some thing about someone and they get pissed and ask you not to, you can't really call them a jerk for getting upset.
BTW Kosar, I was lamely trying to make a joke with you. I'm so white I'm nearly transparent. Anyway, I've got a few more Dortmunders to get through before the end of the night, which might have some influence on the coherency of what I post.
And Oh yea, I got a black friend. Well I got a bunch of black friends, well actually where I work I'm part of the minority. I get called the N word all day long and usually get a laugh when I answer with the same.
Welcome to the board honky.
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Apparently people think I'm a lot more hyper than I actually am. When I get my blood pressure checked they usually ask me if I just woke up or something. Most people call me a sarcastic smart ass. I don't give two craps about what people say about each other. Apparently to some, it seems I've been going over board, but usually I'm just trying to stay awake. Point is, if you say some thing about someone and they get pissed and ask you not to, you can't really call them a jerk for getting upset.
BTW Kosar, I was lamely trying to make a joke with you. I'm so white I'm nearly transparent. Anyway, I've got a few more Dortmunders to get through before the end of the night, which might have some influence on the coherency of what I post.
And Oh yea, I got a black friend. Well I got a bunch of black friends, well actually where I work I'm part of the minority. I get called the N word all day long and usually get a laugh when I answer with the same.
Welcome to the board honky.
Welcome to the board honky.
See, now you got me messed up. I was gonna call you something, but then you said, "welcome to the board" and now I feel like all obligin' and shit. Oh well, One more Dortmunder and it's bedtime for me.
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I think they should have the N word banned during February, Black history month. Everybody of every race who feels the urge to use the N word should instead use the word slave. You'd have to admit it might make February one of the most hilarious months of the year.
I think they should have the N word banned during February, Black history month. Everybody of every race who feels the urge to use the N word should instead use the word slave. You'd have to admit it might make February one of the most hilarious months of the year.
Something tells me if I walked up to a black person this afternoon and called them slave, they would probably be offended.
So to Hecks point about how black folk can say N***** because they use it differently is bogus. (this is a serious conversation about a word, so I don't feel compelled to type out N-word)
I don't use the word, nor ever really have, but in the broad sense, one can call anybody anything with malice as the intent.
As far as Huck Finn goes, they really might as well just ban the book because it was written in a time where the word was common. It may not have even been so much of a derogatory comment as it was simply a common word.
Somewhere later on the word once used was attached to all the old baggage that gave it it's hateful meaning..
As long as all these goofy ideas keep floating around, racial harmony will simply be words on paper. What we do in our everyday life will dictate the level of harmony we reach.
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Hey I was just on the Browns Board and saw amny people calling others fags.
Just thought the PC police here might want to stage a protest.
WSS
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