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Is Next Year a Rebuilding Year or Contending Year?

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  • Lets face it, this team is getting a MASSIVE overhaul in the off season. New Head coach, wide receivers coach, new OC, and most likely a new defensive scheme (4-3.) Can this team overcome the changes and hit the ground running in 2011? I am predicting 7-9 and missing the playoffs yet again--not trying to sound pessimistic, just honest.

    Poll results from the old forum

    What type of season will it be?

    • Contending: 27 votes
    • Rebuilding: 25 votes

  • CONTENDING.

    I say this due to our weak schedule. That is all.

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10

  • I don't consider it rebuilding. The team hasn't even been built the first time. A weak schedule will help but we still have six games against division teams with more talent than us.

    GipsG 1 Reply

  • I said contending because i say screw rebuilding. Homie and Heck are here, so there is no rebuilding for them. Their clock is still ticking. No start overs as far as I am concerned.

    Other teams turn it around in a year or two.....time for us to expect the same.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    mopajiM 1 Reply
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  • I think we're gearing up to field an NFL caliber offense for the first time since 2007 (another weak schedule) with Holmgren's WCO, McCoy, Hillis, Hardesty, Vickers, Watson, Moore, A.J. Green or Julio Jones, Breaston, Massoquoi (slot), Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Lauvao, and Womack. We'll finally have the scheme AND the personnel.

    We have some core guys for whatever defense we run: Rubin, Benard, Gocong, Fujita, Haden, Brown, Ward, and Elam. You add some youth and speed in the draft and a free agent or two, that's going to be a legit defense.

    Frankly, I think we're hitting a tipping point of talent... as in, we'll finally have enough after one more good offseason. And we'll be running a grownup offense. And McCoy will be a young veteran with a stronger arm. I think it'll all come together, along with the schedule, for a 10-win season.

    If we even play 10 games. Sigh.

    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC 1 Reply
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  • D DawgTracker

    I don't consider it rebuilding. The team hasn't even been built the first time. A weak schedule will help but we still have six games against division teams with more talent than us.

    @dawgtracker said:

    I don't consider it rebuilding. The team hasn't even been built the first time. A weak schedule will help but we still have six games against division teams with more talent than us.

    Exactly, we dont need to rebuild what hasnt been built yet, heckert done a good job of adding 4 vital and versatile pieces last year and he needs to pull this draft down as well..

    Our offense is only a valid gameplan , a valid playcaller, a WR and a RG/RT away from being complete assuming hardesty is whats advertised..

    We have needed these pieces since before mangini and still need them after...

    The mangini jets defense is a mediocre aging mess i will leave to tom heckert to figure out...hehehehee 😉

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!

  • We've been rebuilding for 12 years now. I don't see how firing a head coach that was starting to make the team competitive is going to change that.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply
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  • Unless Holmgren whips up some voodoo magic, I doubt we will get anything more than an 8-8 record. Or we might go all "false hope 2007."

  • Rebuilding, because contending in the AFC North means 11 or more wins. Even with our weak 2011 schedule I don't think we'll get more than 9 wins and that's if the new coach doesn't blow the whole thing up like moving from 3-4 defense to 4-3 for example.

  • P pizzadeliveryguy

    We've been rebuilding for 12 years now. I don't see how firing a head coach that was starting to make the team competitive is going to change that.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    We've been rebuilding for 12 years now. I don't see how firing a head coach that was starting to make the team competitive is going to change that.

    We have been rebuilding since 1964. That is a lot longer than 12 years.

    I was a teenager in 1964. Trust me, I know.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • I voted contending as we have plenty of needs, but also more talent that at any time since coming back. I also believe much of that talent has been under utilized & in many cases, not properly coached. Our young offensive players had NO experienced mentors, other than Colt learning from Jake. That will most certainly change & combined with more off season upgrading, I think we'll be ok.

    Mike

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  • S shepwrite

    I think we're gearing up to field an NFL caliber offense for the first time since 2007 (another weak schedule) with Holmgren's WCO, McCoy, Hillis, Hardesty, Vickers, Watson, Moore, A.J. Green or Julio Jones, Breaston, Massoquoi (slot), Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Lauvao, and Womack. We'll finally have the scheme AND the personnel.

    We have some core guys for whatever defense we run: Rubin, Benard, Gocong, Fujita, Haden, Brown, Ward, and Elam. You add some youth and speed in the draft and a free agent or two, that's going to be a legit defense.

    Frankly, I think we're hitting a tipping point of talent... as in, we'll finally have enough after one more good offseason. And we'll be running a grownup offense. And McCoy will be a young veteran with a stronger arm. I think it'll all come together, along with the schedule, for a 10-win season.

    If we even play 10 games. Sigh.

    @shepwrite said:

    I think we're gearing up to field an NFL caliber offense for the first time since 2007 (another weak schedule) with Holmgren's WCO, McCoy, Hillis, Hardesty, Vickers, Watson, Moore, A.J. Green or Julio Jones, Breaston, Massoquoi (slot), Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Lauvao, and Womack. We'll finally have the scheme AND the personnel.

    We have some core guys for whatever defense we run: Rubin, Benard, Gocong, Fujita, Haden, Brown, Ward, and Elam. You add some youth and speed in the draft and a free agent or two, that's going to be a legit defense.

    Frankly, I think we're hitting a tipping point of talent... as in, we'll finally have enough after one more good offseason. And we'll be running a grownup offense. And McCoy will be a young veteran with a stronger arm. I think it'll all come together, along with the schedule, for a 10-win season.

    If we even play 10 games. Sigh.

    Nice optimistic viewpoint. +5

  • I am sure the Browns will win it all. I mean 6 games.

  • I think it's another rebuilding year- mostly because we aren't deep in talent, combined with a new coaching staff. Hopefully I'm wrong and we do become one of those worst to first teams, but reality says otherwise (as others pointed out, our division is brutal enough).

    We need to have a great draft, stay healthy, and learn how to win our home games vs. division rivals....then we talk contending team.

    Karlis Missed
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  • I hope we go into every season competing.

    Tired of the BS rebuilding 3 - 5 year plan.

    Just get the shit done. How hard is it to take a bunch of professional athletes and make them want to play?

    Head or Gut?

  • Obviously, we need to see how the offseason unfolds.

    At this moment, any of our defensive front 7 would have find it difficult to get playing time for Baltimore or Pittsburgh (other than Fujita). That's a problem that needs to get fixed.

    sisky fringoS 1 Reply

  • Any body that expects this team to go to the playoffs next year is going to be disappointed. I think we go 8-8 at best with a new coach and our only chance at the playoffs was with Mangini staying and switching offenses. It will take at least one full season for the new coach to get everything set.

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  • They'll be a new offense and maybe a new defense and unless

    they do a major restructure of the AFC Steelers and Ravens

    are 2 pretty big enchiladas in the way..Contending..please

    This is all getting broken down again..at least 2 maybe 3 years

    from a serious run..but they would have fired the coach by this

    time...ITS LIKE F**KING GROUNDHOG DAY WITH THIS FRANCHISE

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  • Seeing as how we were in almost every game up until the 4th quarter I will go with contending. This one step forward two steps back has got to stop no matter what.

    I do know they will not be getting another free pass from me to suck since Mike fired Mangini before he made sure someone better was willing to come here. In reality it's a 50/50 shot.

  • I took contending to mean contending for a playoff spot.

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