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  • Aloysius ?
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    ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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    And to go one step further: because we didn't have any picks in the first three rounds, we had the smallest rookie pool of any team (about $1.8M). That, in turn, probably made it more difficult for us to throw large chunks of money at UDFA's.

    So while our scouts may have been scouring the country for the best possible UDFA's, we probably couldn't throw big money at very many priority FA guys. Perhaps that's why the only "big name" UDFA's we signed were either destined for IR (Eric Young) or extremely raw prospects (Lance Leggett).

    If that's the case, that may explain why we didn't sign Jameel McClain, Gary Guyton, or any of the interesting LB's available.

    And it also explains why we expended a draft choice on Alex Hall. Not only, as Russ said, was there no guarantee that we could sign him as a UDFA, but our small rookie cap made it very unlikely that we would win a bidding war with any other interested teams.

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    • Legacy Fan Legacy FanL
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      Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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      I'm definitely interested on seeing how Bell & Leggett pan out. I havent seen much of Bell on ST's either. The only two jerseys I see down where Cribbs has just made the tackle are Sorensons & Orr's. (Sorenson appears to be a legit safety on running downs). One of the exciting things about getting Quinn into games this season was his chemistry with Steptoe. As Step began emerging more and more as a legitimate slot guy, the timing & vibe between him and Quinn get thrust into the forefront. (Which sickens me that this could have materialized earlier & earlier and we could have avoided the Stallworthless experiment).

      But, if the draft is a crapshoot, then UDFA are even worse in terms of probability. But limiting our supply with the way our staff only seems to play "veterans" doesn't help either.

      Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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      • JewDago J
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        J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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        actually, we need stallworth as our no. 2 right now specifically so steptoe can play the slot. if we don't have someone at least marginally viable out there, there's no reason for defenses to account for that side of the field.

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          P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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          meh undrafted FA's are a crap shoot. It's simply the luck of the draw IMO

          :neutral_face:
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            ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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            Tonight, Jameel McClain notched two tackles and a sack against Dallas. He got some pressure on another play by using a pretty sweet spin move.

            Man, I wish we'd signed this guy.

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              Tonight, Jameel McClain notched two tackles and a sack against Dallas. He got some pressure on another play by using a pretty sweet spin move.

              Man, I wish we'd signed this guy.

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              ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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              Aloysius said:

              Tonight, Jameel McClain notched two tackles and a sack against Dallas. He got some pressure on another play by using a pretty sweet spin move.

              Man, I wish we'd signed this guy.

              The rich getting richer.

              A free (relatively) 3-4 OLB for the Ravens with a great motor, while we'll struggle to draft a guy with this much upside in round 2 this year. Pffft.

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                ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                My thoughts exactly.

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                  ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                  Is Brian Cushing the guy? I doubt it. Sintim??? Maybe.

                  I hate watching us fcuk up time after time...

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                    ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                    Cushing's interesting, but I think he may be better suited playing strongside linebacker in a 4-3. Then again, I said the same thing about Shawn Crable last year, and the Patriots took him in the 3rd Round.

                    Sintim could be the guy, but I haven't seen enough of him to wager a guess. And unfortunately, Virginia (5-7) didn't qualify for a bowl game.

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                      ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                      I think the same thing about Cushing. And Crable didn't get much PT this season, so perhaps you were smarter than Pioli on that one. 🙂

                      Most likely, we'll be looking at Wimbley and Hall on the outside next season. Having DQ and Curry/Rey in there is something I'd be fine with.

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                        J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                        it's likely, though, that sintim is going to be gone before we pick. do you think this draft class is top-heavy enough that someone will want to trade into the top 10? this seems to be a good draft with impact players at almost every position and a strong, strong crop of LBs.

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                          ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                          If you value the pass-rushing of a Sintim over the overall play of a Curry or Maualuga then trading down would be wise.

                          I don't so I wouldn't, but that's just me. I have a feeling that both Curry and Rey are special players.

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                            ? Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                            Are you people really that stupid? Are you?

                            For Pil Sewage to "hit" on ANY good player he would first have to know what the hell he is doing. I told you cool-aid gorgers when they hired our two buffoons...........

                            Phil Sewage brought coffee to Ozzie.

                            RAC broght coffee to Belichik.

                            Lerner is one of the worst owners in the NFL and he has total shit running the team.

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                              J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                              i don't value a specialist over an all-around player. however, the offseason is my favorite part of football (which may or may not be a product of my team's perennial suckitude) and i like to explore every possibility even if it's not necessarily what i want to do.

                              i'd still like curry, or, if he's picked before we can get him, mays more than sintim or even orakpo, for that matter.

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                                i don't value a specialist over an all-around player. however, the offseason is my favorite part of football (which may or may not be a product of my team's perennial suckitude) and i like to explore every possibility even if it's not necessarily what i want to do.

                                i'd still like curry, or, if he's picked before we can get him, mays more than sintim or even orakpo, for that matter.

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                                ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                                @jewdago said:

                                i don't value a specialist over an all-around player. however, the offseason is my favorite part of football (which may or may not be a product of my team's perennial suckitude) and i like to explore every possibility even if it's not necessarily what i want to do.

                                For us, it's only natural. Why do you think there are so many guys who go nuts for the draft here.

                                Half my life has been spent looking at the football season as the offseason and the draft season as the season. 🙂

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                                  MrFreezeM MrFreeze wrote on last edited by
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                                  @inspecta said:

                                  Oh and Ghoolie do you remember this little gem from last year?

                                  Your own words

                                  http://www.browns-revolution.com/forum/forum15/2511-2.html

                                  And for anybody who wants proof of how badly Ghoolie flip flopped on this team just look at that message board and his posts from last year, he was sucking Romeo's cock harder than an asian whore at a navy port.

                                  Now I'm not going to bust his chops too much because this is ghoolie's schtick, but for newbies who don't know ghoolie this is what he does.

                                  Last year he squeezed his fatass into the biggest cheerleader outfit he could find and ra-ra'd the shit out of the browns. Now that they're losing they're asses he's going a complete 180.

                                  Which I understand his frustration, but he's targeting the wrong guy (thomas) as a target of his ire, which is a two fold purpose because he soothes himself by getting brownies riled up over obvious errors in judgement.

                                  Take care ghoolie, 2009 is another year.

                                  Hahahahaha! Good call, Ghoulie, you da man.

                                  If we win our first preseason game next year, make sure someone saves a seat for Ghoulie at the front of the bandwagon.

                                  (Thanks for keeping people honest, Inspecta!)

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