Pat Shurmur Hired As New Cleveland Browns Head Coach
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Seriously give the guy a chance.. For all those Mangini lovers who are still bitter get over it.. Im sick of hearing about 2 years..
No one was more crushed than me that Gayboy Gruden didnt come here. But thats over with..
Give the guy a chance....
if he goes 10-22 then you can start your rants!
Why should we? All we heard for 2 years was WAAAAAAAAAAAA! Pretty stupid huh?
Why should we? All we heard for 2 years was WAAAAAAAAAAAA! Pretty stupid huh?
All I heard for the last year was progress...... 5-11 is 5-11 no matter how you spin it...
At least your daddy was hired by ESPN
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People are still overlooking the biggest thing.
Next years combined opponents records is 98-104.
We will have success. Just like in 2007.
People are still overlooking the biggest thing.
Next years combined opponents records is 98-104.
We will have success. Just like in 2007.
While I see what you're saying and am hoping you are right, I see that stat a little bit differently, our opponents combine to be almost 8-8 last year, while we struggled to earn 5-11. Two sides to every coin I suppose, like I said I hope you are right but I guess I'm a pessimist (Gee I wonder why!).
GO SHURM! GO BROWNS!
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si senor
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Why should we? All we heard for 2 years was WAAAAAAAAAAAA! Pretty stupid huh?
I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
Holmgren knew that nobody was going to win last year with our talent and schedule. He simply let mangini take the fall for it instead of bringing in a new coach who would be criticized. This way he has control of everything and added another year for his guy.
Almost every successful (super bowl) WCO offensive team had a great QB with the exception of Seattle for one year. They didn't just dink and dunk they threw the ball down the field. Warner was a great QB in his prime, so was Favre. I don't picture Colt reaching that level but he will be able to dink and dunk
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I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
Holmgren knew that nobody was going to win last year with our talent and schedule. He simply let mangini take the fall for it instead of bringing in a new coach who would be criticized. This way he has control of everything and added another year for his guy.
Almost every successful (super bowl) WCO offensive team had a great QB with the exception of Seattle for one year. They didn't just dink and dunk they threw the ball down the field. Warner was a great QB in his prime, so was Favre. I don't picture Colt reaching that level but he will be able to dink and dunk
Holmgren knew that nobody was going to win last year with our talent and schedule. He simply let mangini take the fall for it instead of bringing in a new coach who would be criticized. This way he has control of everything and added another year for his guy.
Almost every successful (super bowl) WCO offensive team had a great QB with the exception of Seattle for one year. They didn't just dink and dunk they threw the ball down the field. Warner was a great QB in his prime, so was Favre. I don't picture Colt reaching that level but he will be able to dink and dunk
actually that isnt correct.. Heckert signed off on Mangini love for old age LBs like barton and bowens. It was mangini love for x jets special team players that cost him his job..
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What can we expect as far as free agency and draft moves now we are moving to the W C offense ?
Who do people on here see being a good fit into our scheme ?
This is my first post on here, I have been a Browns fan since the 80s when Football was first shown on TV in the UK, fell in love with the team blessed with Kosar, Mac and Byner and have been a fan ever since, I moved to USA in 2005 so I get to see more Browns games on TV and have seen them live here in Florida 3 times this year and once last year in Jacksonville ....... I do not know much about the new coach but I will support him 100% as long as he gives his all to the team.
GO BROWNS
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Why should we? All we heard for 2 years was WAAAAAAAAAAAA! Pretty stupid huh?
I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
Difference being, the DAY Mangini was hired, the bitching started, and never stopped even though many areas of the team improved despite the lack of depth and talent......
If at first you dont succeed, skydiving is not for you. -
What can we expect as far as free agency and draft moves now we are moving to the W C offense ?
Who do people on here see being a good fit into our scheme ?
This is my first post on here, I have been a Browns fan since the 80s when Football was first shown on TV in the UK, fell in love with the team blessed with Kosar, Mac and Byner and have been a fan ever since, I moved to USA in 2005 so I get to see more Browns games on TV and have seen them live here in Florida 3 times this year and once last year in Jacksonville ....... I do not know much about the new coach but I will support him 100% as long as he gives his all to the team.
GO BROWNS
DarrenUK said:
What can we expect as far as free agency and draft moves now we are moving to the W C offense ?Who do people on here see being a good fit into our scheme ?
This is my first post on here, I have been a Browns fan since the 80s when Football was first shown on TV in the UK, fell in love with the team blessed with Kosar, Mac and Byner and have been a fan ever since, I moved to USA in 2005 so I get to see more Browns games on TV and have seen them live here in Florida 3 times this year and once last year in Jacksonville ....... I do not know much about the new coach but I will support him 100% as long as he gives his all to the team.
GO BROWNS
Welcome
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Browns since 1999 pre-Shurmur:
Seasons 12
W-L 64-128
Win pct .333
Playoff app 1
10-loss seasons 9
Browns Hypothetically after Shurmur:
Seasons 10
W-L 130-30
Win pct .888
Playoff app 10
10-loss seasons 0
Just being optomistic
Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10 -
Let's hope that in this case nepotism works. Holmgren now has his puppets in place so there will be no excuses from him. Two years, the clock has started.
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Browns since 1999 pre-Shurmur:
Seasons 12
W-L 64-128
Win pct .333
Playoff app 1
10-loss seasons 9
Browns Hypothetically after Shurmur:
Seasons 10
W-L 130-30
Win pct .888
Playoff app 10
10-loss seasons 0
Just being optomistic
Browns since 1999 pre-Shurmur:
Seasons 12
W-L 64-128
Win pct .333
Playoff app 1
10-loss seasons 9
Browns Hypothetically after Shurmur:
Seasons 10
W-L 130-30
Win pct .888
Playoff app 10
10-loss seasons 0
Just being optomistic
The best thing about hiring Shurmur is that it wasnt Marvin Lewis.
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I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
so you're a two year plan guy? period. no matter what?
so you're a two year plan guy? period. no matter what?
Nah. Life is a case by case endeavor.
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I'm not going to say anything negative. Shurmur could turn into a great coach, be mediocre or be horrible. No one knows yet. No matter who we pick, we have no idea what will happen. Give the guy a chance. And root for his success.
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I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
Difference being, the DAY Mangini was hired, the bitching started, and never stopped even though many areas of the team improved despite the lack of depth and talent......
Difference being, the DAY Mangini was hired, the bitching started, and never stopped even though many areas of the team improved despite the lack of depth and talent......
I just wonder if the right move wouldn't have been to give it 1 more year to add players and to give McCoy a full year to develope. If then no progress then pull the trigger.
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John Fox just announced as Denver Broncos Head Coach. So we can put that DC stuff to rest for him.
via Twitter:
"I am excited to announce that John Fox has agreed to terms to become the 14th head coach in Denver Broncos history."
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Daboll is apparently fired.
Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has been fired according to Daniel Wolf of The Dawg Scooper. Wolf reports that Daboll was seem taking boxes to his car.
Wolf reports that Daboll never listened to advice from Browns president Mike Holmgren or Browns senior advisor to the president Gil Haskell.
Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain-Dealer is reporting that Holmgren has not ruled out adding himself as the Browns head coach.
If Holmgren becomes the head coach, Haskell would probably be named the offensive coordinator. There also have been rumors that Ray Rhodes would be named the defensive coordinator.
Adam Caplan of FOXSports reported that Daboll could replace Charlie Weis in Kansas City. Weis is leaving to become the offensive coordinator of the Florida Gators.
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Nah. Life is a case by case endeavor.
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
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Nah. Life is a case by case endeavor.
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
No to go all political or anything, but this reminds me of 08. MOAN MOAN MOAN CRY CRY CRY, then when the guy THEY want is put in, "STOP CRYING" LOL! Its double standard and I want what I want all the time or I will stomp my feet and throw a fit till everyone gets sick of hearing it. But you had better not do the same.
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