Pat Shurmur Hired As New Cleveland Browns Head Coach
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I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
so you're a two year plan guy? period. no matter what?
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I'm not going to say anything negative. Shurmur could turn into a great coach, be mediocre or be horrible. No one knows yet. No matter who we pick, we have no idea what will happen. Give the guy a chance. And root for his success.
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I think that's what Reb just said: If he doesn't win, THEN start bitching.
I personally expect the Browns to win at least 8 games next year and preferably 10, assuming we even play 16 (or 18) games. I think we're at the point where we'll have the talent to expect that, and the schedule isn't bad.
If we suck and go 6-10? I'll put the whole program on notice. They'll have one more season to show some progress.
I think this move was pretty inevitable and if anything I'm disappointed that next year isn't Year Two in the WCO. I never believed Holmgren would take over the Browns but just hang around watching guys he doesn't know run systems he doesn't believe in. I'm surprised anybody really expect that to happen.
Difference being, the DAY Mangini was hired, the bitching started, and never stopped even though many areas of the team improved despite the lack of depth and talent......
Difference being, the DAY Mangini was hired, the bitching started, and never stopped even though many areas of the team improved despite the lack of depth and talent......
I just wonder if the right move wouldn't have been to give it 1 more year to add players and to give McCoy a full year to develope. If then no progress then pull the trigger.
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John Fox just announced as Denver Broncos Head Coach. So we can put that DC stuff to rest for him.
via Twitter:
"I am excited to announce that John Fox has agreed to terms to become the 14th head coach in Denver Broncos history."
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Daboll is apparently fired.
Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has been fired according to Daniel Wolf of The Dawg Scooper. Wolf reports that Daboll was seem taking boxes to his car.
Wolf reports that Daboll never listened to advice from Browns president Mike Holmgren or Browns senior advisor to the president Gil Haskell.
Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain-Dealer is reporting that Holmgren has not ruled out adding himself as the Browns head coach.
If Holmgren becomes the head coach, Haskell would probably be named the offensive coordinator. There also have been rumors that Ray Rhodes would be named the defensive coordinator.
Adam Caplan of FOXSports reported that Daboll could replace Charlie Weis in Kansas City. Weis is leaving to become the offensive coordinator of the Florida Gators.
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Nah. Life is a case by case endeavor.
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
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Nah. Life is a case by case endeavor.
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
so if it's a guy YOU like the timetable can be stretched. shurmur and holmgren get what 3 years/4?
No to go all political or anything, but this reminds me of 08. MOAN MOAN MOAN CRY CRY CRY, then when the guy THEY want is put in, "STOP CRYING" LOL! Its double standard and I want what I want all the time or I will stomp my feet and throw a fit till everyone gets sick of hearing it. But you had better not do the same.
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thus began the homshert era? what about shmeckho? should we start a contest to name this new regime?
thus began the homshert era? what about shmeckho? should we start a contest to name this new regime?
Holmgreckmur Era
LaMonte's Lads
Shurm Hoheck
Holmgren's Homies
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thus began the homshert era? what about shmeckho? should we start a contest to name this new regime?
Holmgreckmur Era
LaMonte's Lads
Shurm Hoheck
Holmgren's Homies
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Daboll is apparently fired.
Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has been fired according to Daniel Wolf of The Dawg Scooper. Wolf reports that Daboll was seem taking boxes to his car.
Wolf reports that Daboll never listened to advice from Browns president Mike Holmgren or Browns senior advisor to the president Gil Haskell.
Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain-Dealer is reporting that Holmgren has not ruled out adding himself as the Browns head coach.
If Holmgren becomes the head coach, Haskell would probably be named the offensive coordinator. There also have been rumors that Ray Rhodes would be named the defensive coordinator.
Adam Caplan of FOXSports reported that Daboll could replace Charlie Weis in Kansas City. Weis is leaving to become the offensive coordinator of the Florida Gators.
Daboll is apparently fired.
Quite an outdated article you've got there. I'll wait till it hits the Plain Dealer to believe it.
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I remember when I first joined 2 years ago when Mangini got fired someone started a thread of if they liked the hire or not. No debating, no name calling and no shoulda woulda couldas. The question is: Do you like the hire? Plain and simple. Please answer yes or no only.
My answer is yes.
The question is: Do you like the hire? Plain and simple. Please answer yes or no only.
My answer is yes.
NO
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Some of LaMonte's clients include:
Mike Holmgren (Cleveland Browns President)
Brad Childress (Former Minnesota Vikings Head Coach)
John Fox (Carolina Panthers Head Coach)
Josh McDaniels (Former Denver Broncos Head Coach)
Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach/Executive VP)
Mike Singletary (Former San Francisco 49ers Head Coach)
Steve Spagnuolo (St. Louis Rams Head Coach)
Mike Sherman (Texas A&M Aggies football Head Coach)
Charlie Weis (Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Martz (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Nolan (Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator)
Al Saunders (Baltimore Ravens Offensive Consultant)
Gunther Cunningham (Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator)
Leslie Frazier (Minnesota Vikings Head Coach)
Mike Heimerdinger (Tennessee Titans Offensive Coordinator)
Mike McCoy (Denver Broncos Offensive Coordinator)
Marty Mornhinweg (Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator)
Pat Shurmur (Cleveland Browns Head Coach)
Tom Heckert (Cleveland Browns General Manager)
Chris Polian (Indianapolis Colts General Manager)
Mark Dominik (Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager)
Rick Smith (Houston Texans General Manager)
Chris Carpenter (St. Louis Cardinals Pitcher)
Pat Hentgen (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Dave Steib (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Joe Nedney (San Francisco 49ers Placekicker)
Jon Gruden (ESPN Analyst for Monday Night Football)
I'd say LaMonte's very wealthy.
I Haven't heard anything bad about him, so that's a plus. But IMHO it's a little more than coincidence H&H hire another LaMonte guy. -
Im just glad we finally hired someone from the offensive side of the ball instead of one of these control freak defensive coordinators that go into a shell on offense.
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Policy was an O guy.....
so was chris palmer.
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Policy was an O guy.....
so was chris palmer.
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Well we will see.......
I will say he is a better hire than a Crennel or a Butch.
Meanwhile all of us can continue to wait on a shot at the playoffs
Start the music Mistro.....
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Some of LaMonte's clients include:
Mike Holmgren (Cleveland Browns President)
Brad Childress (Former Minnesota Vikings Head Coach)
John Fox (Carolina Panthers Head Coach)
Josh McDaniels (Former Denver Broncos Head Coach)
Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach/Executive VP)
Mike Singletary (Former San Francisco 49ers Head Coach)
Steve Spagnuolo (St. Louis Rams Head Coach)
Mike Sherman (Texas A&M Aggies football Head Coach)
Charlie Weis (Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Martz (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Nolan (Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator)
Al Saunders (Baltimore Ravens Offensive Consultant)
Gunther Cunningham (Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator)
Leslie Frazier (Minnesota Vikings Head Coach)
Mike Heimerdinger (Tennessee Titans Offensive Coordinator)
Mike McCoy (Denver Broncos Offensive Coordinator)
Marty Mornhinweg (Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator)
Pat Shurmur (Cleveland Browns Head Coach)
Tom Heckert (Cleveland Browns General Manager)
Chris Polian (Indianapolis Colts General Manager)
Mark Dominik (Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager)
Rick Smith (Houston Texans General Manager)
Chris Carpenter (St. Louis Cardinals Pitcher)
Pat Hentgen (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Dave Steib (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Joe Nedney (San Francisco 49ers Placekicker)
Jon Gruden (ESPN Analyst for Monday Night Football)
I'd say LaMonte's very wealthy.
I Haven't heard anything bad about him, so that's a plus. But IMHO it's a little more than coincidence H&H hire another LaMonte guy. I'd say LaMonte's very wealthy.
I Haven't heard anything bad about him, so that's a plus. But IMHO it's a little more than coincidence H&H hire another LaMonte guy.No doubt, but good demands compensation.
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People are still overlooking the biggest thing.
Next years combined opponents records is 98-104.
We will have success. Just like in 2007.
People are still overlooking the biggest thing.
Next years combined opponents records is 98-104.
We will have success. Just like in 2007.
and then blow for another 3 years. good reasoning. so let's say 2014 we blow up everything again and start all over because we had the one 'phantom' year (like i'm guessing all these this years' kcs, st. louiss tampa bays etc. will have) because of strength of schedule? yeah o.k.
BTW i don't think our schedule next year is as easy as you make it out to be. if we go 7-9 i'll be surprised.
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