Pat Shurmur Hired As New Cleveland Browns Head Coach

cddbrowns

@nickers said:
Im just glad we finally hired someone from the offensive side of the ball instead of one of these control freak defensive coordinators that go into a shell on offense.

Policy was an O guy.....

miktoxic

@cddbrowns said:
Policy was an O guy.....

so was chris palmer.

cddbrowns

@miktoxic said:

so was chris palmer.

LOL! Thats what I mean. Sorry, said the fire-er instead of the fire-ee

Mr. T

Well we will see.......

I will say he is a better hire than a Crennel or a Butch.

Meanwhile all of us can continue to wait on a shot at the playoffs

Start the music Mistro.....

cddbrowns

@mr.-t said:
Well we will see.......
I will say he is a better hire than a Crennel or a Butch.

Meanwhile all of us can continue to wait on a shot at the playoffs

Start the music Mistro.....

Butch with a GM would have been dangerous.....IMO of course.

ballpeen

@hoorta said:
I'd say LaMonte's very wealthy. I Haven't heard anything bad about him, so that's a plus. But IMHO it's a little more than coincidence H&H hire another LaMonte guy.

No doubt, but good demands compensation.

http://www.psr-inc.net/

miktoxic

@theclevelandsound said:
People are still overlooking the biggest thing.
Next years combined opponents records is 98-104.

We will have success. Just like in 2007.

and then blow for another 3 years. good reasoning. so let's say 2014 we blow up everything again and start all over because we had the one 'phantom' year (like i'm guessing all these this years' kcs, st. louiss tampa bays etc. will have) because of strength of schedule? yeah o.k.

BTW i don't think our schedule next year is as easy as you make it out to be. if we go 7-9 i'll be surprised.

? Copper

I guess Shurmur is okay, but I still would have preferred Fewell. The Giant's defense is consistently "pretty good/really good." The Rams' offense under Shurmur peaked at 26th in the league. Sure he was only there for 2 years, but we obviously didn't judge Mangini using the "he's only been there two years" logic.

miktoxic

Copper said:
I guess Shurmur is okay, but I still would have preferred Fewell. The Giant's defense is consistently "pretty good/really good." The Rams' offense under Shurmur peaked at 26th in the league. Sure he was only there for 2 years, but we obviously didn't judge Mangini using the "he's only been there two years" logic.

not disagreeing........BUT look at the talent on their DL compared to ours. every year you can name a pro bowler. how about us????

more to do with FO player pick ups via draft or FA.

daddybull1

Just wondering, with the exception of Bill Walsh's teams, how many WCO's have won the super bowl??? What is the percentage???

Also, how long before Grossi and Cabot write articles asking how many wins does Shurmur need to keep his job - (not how many wins it'll take to win the division or get into the playoffs)..

I'll sign off on this pick as soon as we know who the coordinators will be..

As I said previously, the head coach is the face of the team but the coordinators are the bread and butter.

Peace

T.Dawg

? Copper

@miktoxic said:
not disagreeing........BUT look at the talent on their DL compared to ours. every year you can name a pro bowler. how about us????
more to do with FO player pick ups via draft or FA.

Rubin could be a Pro-Bowler. Same with Haden if he had started the whole year. Heck, maybe even a vet type guy like Fujita minus the injury.

We don't have any depth so, until we get some, any pro-bowl calibre players we may or may not have will be impossible to spot because of our all too frquent injuries limiting them to less than a full season of healthy play.

calfoxwc

The fact that Shumur is an OFFENSIVE experienced HC... is great.

Holmgren and Heckert know so much more than a lot of folks - even in the NFL,

that this new hc should have everybody optimistic bigtime.

This next year depends on how RT, #1 WR, and the pass rush is handled in the draft and/or FA.

Anything else is icing on the cake.

Make the right moves, and the Browns surprise everybody next year,

because the list of dire needs is pretty short, unlike the really long list in the past.

miktoxic

Copper said:
Rubin could be a Pro-Bowler. Same with Haden if he had started the whole year. Heck, maybe even a vet type guy like Fujita minus the injury.
We don't have any depth so, until we get some, any pro-bowl calibre players we may or may not have will be impossible to spot because of our all too frquent injuries limiting them to less than a full season of healthy play.

pass rush (in comparison)???

Canton Mike

I like the hire of Shurmur. Now we need some REAL Coordinators, especially Defense Coordinator. I think that our having 2 highly knowledgeable football guys running things will help. The teams they came from were successful on BOTH sides of the ball, so I have to believe they'll be looking for solid Assistants. I am really confident that we will see a much more balanced Brown's Team on the field.

Nice to see "fresh blood" who came from years of learning from winners coming here to Cleveland.

Mike

Canton Mike

I like the hire of Shurmur. Now we need some REAL Coordinators, especially Defense Coordinator. I think that our having 2 highly knowledgeable football guys running things will help. The teams they came from were successful on BOTH sides of the ball, so I have to believe they'll be looking for solid Assistants. I am really confident that we will see a much more balanced Brown's Team on the field.

Nice to see "fresh blood" who came from years of learning from winners coming here to Cleveland.

Mike

? Copper

@miktoxic said:
pass rush (in comparison)???

What? You asked me to give you someone on our defense that could be a frequent pro-bowler calibre player. I did. But, no, comparison implies that we have a pass rush.

miktoxic

@calfoxwc said:
The fact that Shumur is an OFFENSIVE experienced HC... is great.

why?

@calfoxwc said:
Holmgren and Heckert know so much more than a lot of folks - even in the NFL,
that this new hc should have everybody optimistic bigtime.

really?? i believe in heckerts player picks more than fat boy's skills as of recent years.

@calfoxwc said:
This next year depends on how RT, #1 WR, and the pass rush is handled in the draft and/or FA.

agree

@calfoxwc said:
because the list of dire needs is pretty short, unlike the really long list in the past.

and if you believe that then what head coach do you have to thank??

miktoxic

Copper said:
What? You asked me to give you someone on our defense that could be a frequent pro-bowler calibre player. I did. But, no, comparison implies that we have a pass rush.

we had no pass rush from anyone except when we bltzed a cb or linebacker. giants have de's and dl's that have been known for years and a couple of their linebackers are household names. no argument. just saying.

? Copper

@miktoxic said:

we had no pass rush from anyone except when we bltzed a cb or linebacker. giants have de's and dl's that have been known for years and a couple of their linebackers are household names. no argument. just saying.

I agree, I just said that we had no pass rush.

They have a better front seven. By a long shot. But our defense does have Pro Bowl calibre players to build on. We're just two or three players from having a good stop unit.

miktoxic

Copper said:
I agree, I just said that we had no pass rush.
They have a better front seven. By a long shot. But our defense does have Pro Bowl calibre players to build on. We're just two or three players from having a good stop unit.

do you think our players to "have and to hold" will be affected by the new coaching staff? is ryan gone (i haven't heard any confirmation yet)? and who that we have will be best if we change from the 3-4 to 4-3? asking cuz i don't know about these things.