Goodbye Elam, Trusnik, et al

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Gips

@joeybagofdonuts said:
Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

I say most of them will likely be leaving soon, not sure if its a good thing just yet though, none of them have anything over mediocre but toughness however its more than we will have without them..

jnuh

I hope Elam stays to be honest. I think he started coming into his own towards the end of the year. And we have so many other holes to fill why let him walk and create another one. He is in the the prime of his career right now why let him him have his best years with another team. I also think think will benefit from Ward being a year further along in his career.

shepwrite

Elam had a really nice year. We already lost a safety to a much better defense (Pool)... rather not do it again.

Harry Buffalo

I actually think Elam will keep getting better for another year or two and I think at least we will be getting the level of play he gave us at the end of this season all through next season.

playerjdd

Just because Mangini is gone doesnt mean some of the players he had relationships will be fired. Mangini did a great job improving our team with talented players. He did alot of housecleaning and got rid of some cancers such as Edwards. No player is above the team.

The Gipper

Isn't practically our entire linebacking corps ex Jets? And it was an average LB corps, so yea, I see a lot of them hitting the road.

It could all depend on the DC they get in here.

Hoss

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given.

Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

miktoxic

@hoss said:
Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

dude: go F yourself.

The Gipper

@hoss said:
Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

WTF makes you think that all these moves were made by Mangini?

If you are so damn smart, why are you not an NFL HC or GM?

Bob806

@westside-steve said:
Hey come on now,how about some of those great Rams players like, uh.............
WSS

Amendola, Long, Laurinaitis......they have some talent over there.

CantonLegend

mangini has a good history of bringing in very good players both through the draft and free agency

the players that he brought to cleveland are no different and in a few years they will be the cornerstones of a solid franchise just like the jets are now

for some reason teams love using manginis players, but dont like using mangini

? Copper

Hey Elam was pretty good in the last half of this season.

I get the feeling that things would be very different for this team if Mangini was just the head coach in '09, and we had brought in an actual GM instead of having him draft and such.

Hoss

@the-gipper said:
WTF makes you think that all these moves were made by Mangini?
If you are so damn smart, why are you not an NFL HC or GM?

LMAO! Gipper come on now, I have seen lists of players posters have said Eric brought to the JETS, yet he didn't run those drafts the GM did. Then I am supposed to believe that the hand picked GM Eric brought here did all the dirty work? You have got to be kidding me. Eric was a genius in New York with their draft, but suddenly he is not responsible for the shit players he acquired here on his own accord?

Give me a fooking break. He doesn't and shouldn't shoulder all the blame, but most of these moves were for Jets players. And the compensation we received was WAY below market value.

Mangini trades with one team, sends high value for low return, and I am supposed to blame the handpicked BAL GM? You are seriously trying to sell this to me?

You're better than that.

bringbackbrownie2

@hoss said:
Give me a fooking break. He doesn't and shouldn't shoulder all the blame, but most of these moves were for Jets players. And the compensation we received was WAY below market value.
You're better than that.

Examples? Surely you can't be refering to Braylon "brick hands" Edwards?! We got Stuckey, Trusnic , and a third and 5th rounder to get rid of that team cancer.. To put it in persepective, the patriots gave up Randy Moss and a 7th rounder for a 3rd rounder...