History according to Browns Fans
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Kathy,
Did any of the media ever have their footage collected for a documentary? If not, I wonder what still exists to be colaborated.
I can remember back in the day (a few years after these events, I sure), I broke into this Online-Browns-Family by typing current news to out of town fans. You couldn't just search or go to just any media website and copy-and-paste the articles, they just weren't available online. We hand typed news paper clippings to share with others in the dark as to what was going on with the state of the Browns.
Good stuff, strange memories.
I can still remember waking up to a radio interview of Art Modell, and something in his voice perked my attention immediately as he went on to announce that he was moving the team. I had to leave the house, and drove around aimlessly as the story broke that day.
I can remember vividly debating expansion or relocating another team here. The owners race; I still have propaganda from the various ownership partys vying for the team. We had been online for several years debating the Browns before such subjects of substance ever existed.
Had I known that the Browns franchise was going to be so mis-managed and woeful, I would have wished for strength to end any relationship with the NFL. These past 15 years have just been horrible as a Browns Fan. The best thing sprouting from it all is the friendships we've all made here. Cheers to you Brothers and Sisters, as you've become the Cleveland Browns to me!
Kathy,
Did any of the media ever have their footage collected for a documentary? If not, I wonder what still exists to be colaborated.
I can remember back in the day (a few years after these events, I sure), I broke into this Online-Browns-Family by typing current news to out of town fans. You couldn't just search or go to just any media website and copy-and-paste the articles, they just weren't available online. We hand typed news paper clippings to share with others in the dark as to what was going on with the state of the Browns.
Good stuff, strange memories.
I can still remember waking up to a radio interview of Art Modell, and something in his voice perked my attention immediately as he went on to announce that he was moving the team. I had to leave the house, and drove around aimlessly as the story broke that day.
I can remember vividly debating expansion or relocating another team here. The owners race; I still have propaganda from the various ownership partys vying for the team. We had been online for several years debating the Browns before such subjects of substance ever existed.
Had I known that the Browns franchise was going to be so mis-managed and woeful, I would have wished for strength to end any relationship with the NFL. These past 15 years have just been horrible as a Browns Fan. The best thing sprouting from it all is the friendships we've all made here. Cheers to you Brothers and Sisters, as you've become the Cleveland Browns to me!
I don't know if anyone saved the video of that or any of the Cleveland rallies. I do know that this was long before the days when everyone and his brother had a camera in their cell phone. I don't recall seeing any other still camera at the Atlanta rally other than my own.
For some reason I have yet to fathom, I printed out a stack of the internet traffic pertaining to the Save Our Browns effort. I have a binder full of message board posts and emails thanks to my dot matrix printer. I am still amazed at the amount of information we were able to round up from various sources BEFORE it appeared in the media.
Everyone has their unique memories of that nutty time. Beanpot was telling me about a "Diaper Day" event in Baltimore which was designed to mock Browns fans for crying over the loss of their team. I don't remember hearing about that.
I don't have a clue what made me dig through this stuff today.
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I remember Diaper Day. We used to have it out on AOL on a daily basis with the asshole who coordinated that, I belive his name was something ___Meister or Miser.
I may have a box of old posting around as well. I have old newspapers and I have saved souvenirs from the ownership race of Milstein, Thomas Murdough, Wolstein, Dolans, Jacobs, Lerner, etc ... I have a mini nerf football with I believe Milstein & Calvin Hill ownership imprinted on it. They also mailed out key chains and such. I barely opened the stuff but just stored it away as I new the things would be memorable one day.
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Regarding 'Diaper Day', I found an archived story. The guys name was Adam Meisters, but I can't remember his screen name but I believe it had part of his last name within.
http://www2.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=3680
I believe 'Art Beitz' had a few bandwidth directed at that guy with his RavenSucks zone url.
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I remember Diaper Day. We used to have it out on AOL on a daily basis with the asshole who coordinated that, I belive his name was something ___Meister or Miser.
I may have a box of old posting around as well. I have old newspapers and I have saved souvenirs from the ownership race of Milstein, Thomas Murdough, Wolstein, Dolans, Jacobs, Lerner, etc ... I have a mini nerf football with I believe Milstein & Calvin Hill ownership imprinted on it. They also mailed out key chains and such. I barely opened the stuff but just stored it away as I new the things would be memorable one day.
I remember Diaper Day. We used to have it out on AOL on a daily basis with the asshole who coordinated that, I belive his name was something ___Meister or Miser.
I may have a box of old posting around as well. I have old newspapers and I have saved souvenirs from the ownership race of Milstein, Thomas Murdough, Wolstein, Dolans, Jacobs, Lerner, etc ... I have a mini nerf football with I believe Milstein & Calvin Hill ownership imprinted on it. They also mailed out key chains and such. I barely opened the stuff but just stored it away as I new the things would be memorable one day.
I've got some of that stuff too but since I wasn't in Cleveland at the time I'm sure I don't have as much, just what my family and various folks sent me.
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Zombo said:
Yep, Adam Meister. We used to beat the shit out of that douche on aol. I think four people showed up for "diaper day". Dumbest idea ever. He's probably a bag boy and a registered sex offender these days.http://www2.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=3680#
Zombo
Ah .... it's starting to come back to me.
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I will never get the sound of a dial up modem out of my head.
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I will never get the sound of a dial up modem out of my head.
I will never get the sound of a dial up modem out of my head.
lol. The last time I heard it was in the movie "The Proposal." Cracked me up when Sandra Bullock's character didn't know what it was.
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Ominous anniversary.
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Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Baroness! I'll have to send Jim a link, to remind him how much of a goofball he could be back then!
For the youngsters:
Prodigy: One of the "Big 3" computer services, along with AOL and Compuserve. They were the first to allow their users to send and receive e-mails to/from other services. There was a thriving Browns board there, the highlight of which was Pat Hadad re-typing the day's Browns news for we expatriates.
NVN was "National Videotext Network". A bunch of us were active there, as well as the old Prodigy and AOL boards. It's how many of us met all those years ago, when nobody actually met people they conversed with online. (Actually, we didn't call it "online", but "over the computer".) It was a great service until they abruptly closed up shop one day.
Hey Woofie, remember this one:
"I'd settle for semi-reliable rumor."
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Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Baroness! I'll have to send Jim a link, to remind him how much of a goofball he could be back then!
For the youngsters:
Prodigy: One of the "Big 3" computer services, along with AOL and Compuserve. They were the first to allow their users to send and receive e-mails to/from other services. There was a thriving Browns board there, the highlight of which was Pat Hadad re-typing the day's Browns news for we expatriates.
NVN was "National Videotext Network". A bunch of us were active there, as well as the old Prodigy and AOL boards. It's how many of us met all those years ago, when nobody actually met people they conversed with online. (Actually, we didn't call it "online", but "over the computer".) It was a great service until they abruptly closed up shop one day.
Hey Woofie, remember this one:
"I'd settle for semi-reliable rumor."
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Baroness! I'll have to send Jim a link, to remind him how much of a goofball he could be back then!
For the youngsters:
Prodigy: One of the "Big 3" computer services, along with AOL and Compuserve. They were the first to allow their users to send and receive e-mails to/from other services. There was a thriving Browns board there, the highlight of which was Pat Hadad re-typing the day's Browns news for we expatriates.
NVN was "National Videotext Network". A bunch of us were active there, as well as the old Prodigy and AOL boards. It's how many of us met all those years ago, when nobody actually met people they conversed with online. (Actually, we didn't call it "online", but "over the computer".) It was a great service until they abruptly closed up shop one day.
Hey Woofie, remember this one:
"I'd settle for semi-reliable rumor."
Glad to oblige! A real blast from the past. Is Pat still around?
lolololol ... over the computer .... lolololol
You can tell Jim from me that one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life was at a talent show. Two guys "performed" to dueling banjos with penlights illuminating their noses in time with the music. I laughed until it hurt.
Woofie aka The Baroness
Woof Woof, Kathy http://cognitivemanifesto.com/ http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=49&officeID=9 Bendix ESP -
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Baroness! I'll have to send Jim a link, to remind him how much of a goofball he could be back then!
For the youngsters:
Prodigy: One of the "Big 3" computer services, along with AOL and Compuserve. They were the first to allow their users to send and receive e-mails to/from other services. There was a thriving Browns board there, the highlight of which was Pat Hadad re-typing the day's Browns news for we expatriates.
NVN was "National Videotext Network". A bunch of us were active there, as well as the old Prodigy and AOL boards. It's how many of us met all those years ago, when nobody actually met people they conversed with online. (Actually, we didn't call it "online", but "over the computer".) It was a great service until they abruptly closed up shop one day.
Hey Woofie, remember this one:
"I'd settle for semi-reliable rumor."
Glad to oblige! A real blast from the past. Is Pat still around?
lolololol ... over the computer .... lolololol
You can tell Jim from me that one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life was at a talent show. Two guys "performed" to dueling banjos with penlights illuminating their noses in time with the music. I laughed until it hurt.
Woofie aka The Baroness
Glad to oblige! A real blast from the past. Is Pat still around?
lolololol ... over the computer .... lolololol
You can tell Jim from me that one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life was at a talent show. Two guys "performed" to dueling banjos with penlights illuminating their noses in time with the music. I laughed until it hurt.
Woofie aka The Baroness
I haven't heard from, or about, Pat in many years. I got to meet her at the first game back in 1999, but lost touch with her after that. She was very nice, but quiet and rather shy. When I was doing the Atlanta BB thing, our members wondered how I got the information for our weekly newsletters. I always gave the credit to Pat.
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One of my lasting memories of that event (there were many) was the protest outside the owners' hotel. The WBAL sign was a mobile billboard towed by a pickup truck with one guy in it. I think it said "Baltimore and the Browns...A great team". A few of the Atlanta BB guys spotted it and headed that direction. Mayor White sprinted after them, blocked their path and said, "No, no, no. This isn't what we're about." They rejoined the rest of the group.
For the record, they did pay the guy towing the sign a friendly visit after the rally. I believe he had to call AAA after all of his tires inexplicably went flat. Wisely, he didn't put up a fight.
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One of my lasting memories of that event (there were many) was the protest outside the owners' hotel. The WBAL sign was a mobile billboard towed by a pickup truck with one guy in it. I think it said "Baltimore and the Browns...A great team". A few of the Atlanta BB guys spotted it and headed that direction. Mayor White sprinted after them, blocked their path and said, "No, no, no. This isn't what we're about." They rejoined the rest of the group.
For the record, they did pay the guy towing the sign a friendly visit after the rally. I believe he had to call AAA after all of his tires inexplicably went flat. Wisely, he didn't put up a fight.
One of my lasting memories of that event (there were many) was the protest outside the owners' hotel. The WBAL sign was a mobile billboard towed by a pickup truck with one guy in it. I think it said "Baltimore and the Browns...A great team". A few of the Atlanta BB guys spotted it and headed that direction. Mayor White sprinted after them, blocked their path and said, "No, no, no. This isn't what we're about." They rejoined the rest of the group.
For the record, they did pay the guy towing the sign a friendly visit after the rally. I believe he had to call AAA after all of his tires inexplicably went flat. Wisely, he didn't put up a fight.
I was told that a few SOBers turned off or did something to the sign. Apparently the hotel security saw the folks who did it but looked the other way.
Pat was a godsend during those days. I wish I knew where she was to tell her that we still appreciate all she did to keep us informed.
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