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  • W Westside Steve

    Just a guess fellows.

    Why do you think the murder of Judge Roll has been largely unmentioned in the mainstream press while Ms Giffords has been covered 24/7 ?

    Because he's dead?

    Because he's a man?

    Because he's a Republican?

    Because his death doesn't do much to promote the "agenda?"

    WSS

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    C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    Just a guess fellows.

    Why do you think the murder of Judge Roll has been largely unmentioned in the mainstream press while Ms Giffords has been covered 24/7 ?

    Because he's dead?

    Because he's a man?

    Because he's a Republican?

    Because his death doesn't do much to promote the "agenda?"WSS

    Certainly the fact that the Congresswoman is, well, a female plays into the sentiment. How many women have been executed from death row? That is a strong element.

    However, political opportunism reeks. First Obama turned a very sad and, should-have-been, solemn event into a de facto campaign rally. At the same time, the strangestream media is jumping up and down at the thought of turning this into a 'them' vs. 'us' situation.

    Shameless.

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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      H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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      "First Obama turned a very sad and, should-have-been, solemn event into a de facto campaign rally."

      He did?

      Explain how the president did that, John. By giving a speech about the victims? The "better angels of our nature" part of it?

      Name one partisan, political thing he said. Here's the transcript.

      You're probably going to want to take that back. You're not going to be able to find anything. Or maybe I was listening to a different speech. Or maybe you only listened to the commentary, not the speech.

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        C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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        >>Explain how the president did that, John. By giving a speech about the victims? The "better angels of our nature" part of it?>>

        He NEVER ONCE asked the 'rowdy kids' wearing 'campaign' T-Shirt to simmer down and respect the lives lost and the reason for it.

        Perhaps an act of omission, but he did nothing to temper the 'spirit' of those there for the 'event'.

        "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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          Damn kids.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            Damn political ops for Obamao who put those tshirts on every freakin seat.

            And yes, Obamao played up to them. It was a "look at me, I want to be Pres again" moment,

            that should never have been.

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              @westside-steve said:

              Just a guess fellows.

              Why do you think the murder of Judge Roll has been largely unmentioned in the mainstream press while Ms Giffords has been covered 24/7 ?

              Because he's dead?

              Because he's a man?

              Because he's a Republican?

              Because his death doesn't do much to promote the "agenda?"WSS

              Certainly the fact that the Congresswoman is, well, a female plays into the sentiment. How many women have been executed from death row? That is a strong element.

              However, political opportunism reeks. First Obama turned a very sad and, should-have-been, solemn event into a de facto campaign rally. At the same time, the strangestream media is jumping up and down at the thought of turning this into a 'them' vs. 'us' situation.

              Shameless.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              @chicopee-john said:

              Certainly the fact that the Congresswoman is, well, a female plays into the sentiment. How many women have been executed from death row? That is a strong element.

              However, political opportunism reeks. First Obama turned a very sad and, should-have-been, solemn event into a de facto campaign rally. At the same time, the strangestream media is jumping up and down at the thought of turning this into a 'them' vs. 'us' situation.

              Shameless.

              That about sums it up.

              Nearly every story contains commentary about "civil discourse" along with the phony disclaimer over the reason for the attack.

              Even the speech Obama read.

              But if the presidents promo people actually passed out the T shirts that'd be pretty distasteful wouldn't it?

              Heck?

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              • H heckofajobbrownie

                For instance, I've seen this headline a lot today:

                Doctors remove bone chips from Giffords eye socket

                It's a bit easier to write that story than the one about a guy still being dead.

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                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                For instance, I've seen this headline a lot today:

                Doctors remove bone chips from Giffords eye socket

                It's a bit easier to write that story than the one about a guy still being dead.

                Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead...that got played for 2-3 years.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                  I'm not seeing the "distasteful" in handing out T-shirts that say "Together we stand" - or whatever they said. That hardly gets me going.

                  Only the party that doesn't hold the presidency could give a shit about such a thing. Which is to say, I could see Democrats complaining if Bush did this. And it wouldn't have made any more sense then either.

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                  • H heckofajobbrownie

                    I'm not seeing the "distasteful" in handing out T-shirts that say "Together we stand" - or whatever they said. That hardly gets me going.

                    Only the party that doesn't hold the presidency could give a shit about such a thing. Which is to say, I could see Democrats complaining if Bush did this. And it wouldn't have made any more sense then either.

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                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                    I'm not seeing the "distasteful" in handing out T-shirts that say "Together we stand" - or whatever they said. That hardly gets me going.

                    Only the party that doesn't hold the presidency could give a shit about such a thing. Which is to say, I could see Democrats complaining if Bush did this. And it wouldn't have made any more sense then either.

                    Probably.

                    But in this case it was Dems.

                    I'm sure you'll bring it up to me when Republicans do it.

                    And the shirts were blue.....

                    😉

                    WSS

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                      H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                      Oh my God.

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                        Oh my God.

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                        @heckofajobbrownie said:

                        Oh my God.

                        You knew that was a joke right?

                        (uh right??)

                        WSS

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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          Mine was too.

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                            >>I'm not seeing the "distasteful" in handing out T-shirts that say "Together we stand" - or whatever they said. That hardly gets me going.>>

                            "Together we stand" against what? Mentally deranged people shooting and killing people?

                            I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama's organization commandere, "Together We Stand" as Obama's campaign slogan in 2012.

                            To bad all the, "We Are Fam-ily" shirts are torn, stained or already licensed.

                            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              I don't know, John, as a community after a giant tragedy?

                              Just a guess.

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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                It was a political rally of sorts. It was just a situation to be used and abused, in the favor of Obamao and the left.

                                Not anywhere near like that business where the left blamed Rush and Sarah Palin and the Tea Party...

                                but, they leave no op unused, no stone unturned, no chance wasted, no minority interests that aren't worth buying...

                                blech.

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                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                  Together We Thrive

                                  Tuscon abd America.

                                  FWIW

                                  University says it was their idea and made no profit.

                                  Shirts cost about 60K.

                                  WSS

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                                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                    Yes, I think we can lay that one to rest now.

                                    BTW, according to the Safeway security video it seems Roll acted very bravely and saved another man's life at the cost of his own.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                      that judge is the judge who ruled in favor of illegal immigrants, and against a Rancher, and let their lawsuit continue.

                                      Not much of a hero with that much lib bias.

                                      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/0...-john-roll.html

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                                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                        Cal, he's a Republican. Nominated by the first President Bush at the behest of John McCain. He's a conservative.

                                        When people do things you don't understand (make legal decisions) for people you automatically don't like (illegal aliens) that doesn't make them liberals. It just makes you a crank.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                          Heck, I know he was appointed by Bush. No freakin conservative judge rules

                                          against an AMERICAN rancher, in favor of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

                                          I remember reading about that fiasco. I never said he was a Dem.

                                          That ruling was a sham, I don't care that Bush appointed him or not.

                                          The rancher has had his home broken into, calves killed, trash dumped all over,

                                          and he caught these illegals TRESPASSING on his property. He called the sheriff.

                                          The rancher didn't do anything wrong. The freakin ILLEGALS have no civil rights.

                                          You name me ONE conservative in this country, who says that illegals immigrants have

                                          the rights of American citizens. If they DID, you would not be FREAKIN ALLOWED TO KICK THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

                                          I just don't know where our country is headed, but I think we're headed for big, big, big trouble...

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