Dick Jauron hired

NewEraDawg

@ballpeen said:
Hey guys.....how about making some football points or just shut the hell up??
Time to tone it down.

Yeah...............and they delete my posts of an ongoing interview with Shurmer . I guess I didn't swear enough.

htownbrown

I can't believe people are cool with everything this team does. It pisses me off that Mangini is gone and this is what we have in return. For losing Mangini I expected more, not this. But Mangini is gone. My only hope now for the new staff is that Heckert has a great draft every year and Holmgren doesn't try to micromanage every facet of the team. I really want this team to win like the rest of you, but I can't sit back and watch this team year after year and not see it through jaded eyes. I have hope to give to the team, but I have zero trust in anything this team does anymore until they earn it. So you can high5 eachother about these hirings and call everyone a hater who doeesnt drink the koolaid, but if your a browns fan with an IQ above 30 then somewhere in the repressive part of your brain it feels the same way I do. And that is the way it should be until they prove otherwise. Had me or any other poster predicted, or pulled a WRREBEL on the entire board, this would be the guys that replace Mangini and Ryan before the season started, after laughing for awhile you probably would have suggested I aim a little higher than that don't you think?

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Milktoxic-

I was heavily against Mangini fired. I don't like the direction we're going in, personally. I thought we had a great system in place, and we just needed another year.

But that didn't happen. So, instead of sitting around all butthurt because my guy didn't get the shot I thought he deserved, I moved on.

Grow up, dickmouth.

Tour2ma

God God.... is it impossible to get banned around here?

Jauron is a good coach. The problems I see are:

- Personel - Who are our DE's? Who's the MLB?

- Group think - too much commonality/ history in the coaching staff; especially on the offensive side of the ball.

Harry Buffalo

@htownbrown said:
I can't believe people are cool with everything this team does. It pisses me off that Mangini is gone and this is what we have in return. For losing Mangini I expected more, not this. But Mangini is gone. My only hope now for the new staff is that Heckert has a great draft every year and Holmgren doesn't try to micromanage every facet of the team. I really want this team to win like the rest of you, but I can't sit back and watch this team year after year and not see it through jaded eyes. I have hope to give to the team, but I have zero trust in anything this team does anymore until they earn it. So you can high5 eachother about these hirings and call everyone a hater who doeesnt drink the koolaid, but if your a browns fan with an IQ above 30 then somewhere in the repressive part of your brain it feels the same way I do. And that is the way it should be until they prove otherwise. Had me or any other poster predicted, or pulled a WRREBEL on the entire board, this would be the guys that replace Mangini and Ryan before the season started, after laughing for awhile you probably would have suggested I aim a little higher than that don't you think?

And I can completely understand that you don't like the hires, but I am glad that you are at least going to give them a chance to see what they can do before you reserve judgment and praise unlike these other guys who are ready for them to be shit canned now. This is obviously not the best hiring we could have done and yes Mangini should have been given more time, but I'm not calling for peoples heads before they have had a chance to prove themselves and I am going to be against any kind of firing before 2 years unless they xxxx up to near McDaniel proportions.

DawgTracker

Is Jauron still checking out other jobs?

Harry Buffalo

@dawgtracker said:
Is Jauron still checking out other jobs?

Jauron is signed with us. He isn't looking at other jobs.

Erie Dawg

Hillis-iz-Boss said:
And I can completely understand that you don't like the hires, but I am glad that you are at least going to give them a chance to see what they can do before you reserve judgment and praise unlike these other guys who are ready for them to be shit canned now. This is obviously not the best hiring we could have done and yes Mangini should have been given more time, but I'm not calling for peoples heads before they have had a chance to prove themselves and I am going to be against any kind of firing before 2 years unless they xxxx up to near McDaniel proportions.

It just seems to me that we didn't take a step forward with coaches. Kinda like the prom queen to a chick with 6 kids.

Lost a hc that had the players seeing the same vision.

Specal teams coach.

Def. Cordinator that with the right pieces could of made us a top ten D.

miktoxic

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Grow up, dickmouth.

ok, you're right. fxxk face. see you at the rawhide later, pillow biter.

just kidding, i know that's high class for you.

oh BTW congrats steelers. thanks for showing us once again how it's done.

Pumpkin Eater

Harry Buffalo

@junkyard-dawg said:
I just told your stupid ass how to get to them. 1: Go to Clevelandbrowns.com, 2: Go into the media section, 3: Watch Manginis and Dabolls pressers from the first handful of games. You can either go there and watch for yourself or you can shut the xxxx up for once in your life.
Bullshit. Your cheerleading like a motherxxxxer for he and the bullshit he's selling to this fanbase kid.

Newsflash: I don't care what you believe. You're a brainless little cheerleader talking out of your ass.

Yeah, THAT would have went over well. Come in and fire a guy hot off of 4 straight wins to close out the season in order to bring in the OC of the 32nd ranked offense in the NFL at HC, up against a tough as shit schedule with no talent? I mean yeah i'm sure you mindless fanboys would have been all over his balls over how brilliant it is but even Clevelands shit media would have put his fat ass on notice over that one.

I take it super tard is some hip new wigger slang? Whatever. Yes clearly last years schedule explains away your boyfriend Flabios shit defenses his entire career as a DC.

Except you haven't a clue, but whatever. Or as your type says "whatevs yo."

Lets see you stay off for a week and then you drag this stupid back up. How about you stop trying to make up a stupid bullshit persona for me and actually make a legitimate argument. Just cause I can toss some cuss words together doesn't mean I'm a rap fan. The fact of the matter is either your spouting stupid conspiracy bullshit and making stupid claims that you are not even willing to look up your self to prove to make yourself feel better about Mangini getting fired. Deal with it you xxxxing hypocrite. I don't get how you can call for a new coach to be fired while you bitch about a coach getting fired after only two seasons. And if Ryan deserved to be fired then why was his defense still better this year than last year (or his whole career) even though the team played the toughest schedule. Which doesn't matter because 5-11 is 5-11.

If you want to think I am a Holmgren cheer leader then fine because Jesus himself wouldn't be able to sway you otherwise but this whole time I have made several things very clear. 1. I thought Mangini should have been given more time since I believe a coach should have around 4 years to prove himself. 2. I think the new coaches should be given the 4 years time to prove them selves like every other coach regardless of team or front office.

But whatever, with your kind of logic you should (and probably are) greeting people as they walk into walmart.

Pumpkin Eater

yeah man, Ryan is probably the most overrated DC in football. I don't get the love affair. He didn't get results in Oakland and he didn't get results in Cleveland.

Harry Buffalo

@junkyard-dawg said:
Stay off? It's called having a life kid. Not everyone can hang out in their mommies basements listening to Eminem while jerking off to Hillis photos and Rob Ryan pressers all day, sorry.
His defense was ranked 22nd. After two years on the job. It was 26th ranked the day he waddled through the door. If it takes you two years to go from 26th to 22nd? You xxxxing suck at your job, that's all there is to it. Inherited the 14th ranked passing defense. Two years later: 18th. That's going backwards. From 28th in rushing D when he walked through the door to... 27th. I realize you think moving up 4 places in the rankings after two years of coaching the squad but the reality is when you're bottom of the barrel? You should be able to make a better jump than that, especially when you're given upgrades or equal talent at most positions.

But hey, that's the differences between a Rob Ryan and a competent coach. You can keep getting pussyhurt over the reality or man up, grow a pair and accept that your loverboy is a joke as a defensive coordinator.

You stupid dipshit. I am not on here claiming that Ryan should have been retained. I am pointing out that your just a xxxxing hypocrite. A hard schedule means one guy should have been kept while another is shown the door is a load of bullshit. Both kept or both fired. Both were fired so xxxxing deal with it. You can't say 5-11 is more like 8-8 talking about strength of schedule and then say that 22nd overall defense has nothing to do with how hard the schedule was. I agree that the record is the record now and you were right that Ryan should have been shown the door, but because of that same reasoning Mangini was shown the door so just xxxxing deal with it and move on.

Oh and since you have such a wonderful full life with kids and a wife I wonder why you take time out of your day to come on here and troll and act like a total dumb ass none stop. Sounds more like you hide your anger from your family and spew it out on here for us to read. Sorry that I live in a college dorm and have a a half an hour a day to get on a read/post and you have to wait until your wife burns one to many roasts in order to get on.

SJ_Browns

so what's the story on jauron's style of d? i haven't been able to find much info on it. i've just recently moved and haven't been on the net much the past few weeks. any info would be much appreciated.

htownbrown

@sj_browns said:
so what's the story on jauron's style of d? i haven't been able to find much info on it. i've just recently moved and haven't been on the net much the past few weeks. any info would be much appreciated.

Its pretty much the 'suck-o-lot' defense! Not much to know, even less to be excited about.

choco

@sj_browns said:
so what's the story on jauron's style of d? i haven't been able to find much info on it. i've just recently moved and haven't been on the net much the past few weeks. any info would be much appreciated.

a very bland T2 4-3 that doesn't blitz, relies on pressure from the front 4....it was almost entirely abandoned after the WCO became mainstream because it was a run stopping defense. u need athletic linebackers to run stop and cover the flats, as well as a rangy safety.

these are all components the browns have none of.....so welcome to several more years of crappy defenses that lose games and give up huge yardage. its a somewhat effective defense when you have talent at the key positions.....if the argument was made that the 3-4 was ineffective because we lacked the personnel, we're in the same xxxxing boat now as before. well, except that all our 3-4 trained players need to learn new jobs....

so yeah...huge step back in both scheme and personnel.

SJ_Browns

thanks for the info, fellas. i heard he had a conservative d, but wasn't sure if that was true. i guess we'll see what happens.