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  • The real question might be - Have the Browns lost all respect for themselves that they now lash out at players in the NFC?

    Who do the Browns think they are?

    Surf and Turf said:

    The real question might be - Have the Browns lost all respect for themselves that they now lash out at players in the NFC?

    Who do the Browns think they are?

    i guess you you mean browns' fans. and in saying so i guess we are like the rest of football fans across this country and others to comment on something relevant to the game we love. besides that's what forums such as this are about, speaking your mind and posting comments on such topics. you obviously have nothing to say, but come here to start shit. go F yourself.

  • Surf and Turf said:

    The real question might be - Have the Browns lost all respect for themselves that they now lash out at players in the NFC?

    Who do the Browns think they are?

    i guess you you mean browns' fans. and in saying so i guess we are like the rest of football fans across this country and others to comment on something relevant to the game we love. besides that's what forums such as this are about, speaking your mind and posting comments on such topics. you obviously have nothing to say, but come here to start shit. go F yourself.

    @miktoxic said:

    i guess you you mean browns' fans. and in saying so i guess we are like the rest of football fans across this country and others to comment on something relevant to the game we love. besides that's what forums such as this are about, speaking your mind and posting comments on such topics. you obviously have nothing to say, but come here to start shit. go F yourself.

    Toxic don't feed him. His moms tits are enough. A jay cutler thread, talking about the stoolers, come on ur smarter than that

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    Caleb Hanie talked very specifically about how Cutler DID talk with him and assist him during the game. Unfortunately, the editing director for FOX selected the 5 second snippets that he/she felt added the most drama to the broadcast. Just because you were provided with several shots of Cutler on the sidelines not acting like a cheerleader doesn't mean that he wasn't into the game or uninvolved.

    Bullshit every play he was listening to his mp3. Dude take your cutler love somewhere else.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Bullshit every play he was listening to his mp3. Dude take your cutler love somewhere else.

    Its funny, I actually can't stand Cutler, I just tend to not let my emotions ruin subjective thought. I love how seeing the injury report and listening to people that were actually involved in the situation instead of basing my opinion on the usual media driven hysterics that are used to drum up ratings makes me a Cutler lover.

  • I've got no problem lashing at any pro player who recently signed a contract extension with 20 MILLION of it guarenteed. There are more than a few NFL players who make more than a million/game

    during the regular season... more than many americans make their entire working career. Cutler was in his conference's championship game and acted like a prima donna when the chips were down. If the

    blue collar, lunch pail rattling fans of the league want to question his mojo, then so be it.

  • question your own mogo. your team can't even make the playoffs.

  • @kosar_for_president said:

    Bullshit every play he was listening to his mp3. Dude take your cutler love somewhere else.

    Its funny, I actually can't stand Cutler, I just tend to not let my emotions ruin subjective thought. I love how seeing the injury report and listening to people that were actually involved in the situation instead of basing my opinion on the usual media driven hysterics that are used to drum up ratings makes me a Cutler lover.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    Its funny, I actually can't stand Cutler, I just tend to not let my emotions ruin subjective thought. I love how seeing the injury report and listening to people that were actually involved in the situation instead of basing my opinion on the usual media driven hysterics that are used to drum up ratings makes me a Cutler lover.

    Well there is no other excuse at this point, you are a girl that loves cutler.

  • question your own mogo. your team can't even make the playoffs.

    Surf and Turf said:

    question your own mogo. your team can't even make the playoffs.

    i've got no mogo.........but my mojo is treacherous

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    Its funny, I actually can't stand Cutler, I just tend to not let my emotions ruin subjective thought. I love how seeing the injury report and listening to people that were actually involved in the situation instead of basing my opinion on the usual media driven hysterics that are used to drum up ratings makes me a Cutler lover.

    Well there is no other excuse at this point, you are a girl that loves cutler.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Well there is no other excuse at this point, you are a girl that loves cutler.

    So you have nothing of value to add? At this point you are just one step above a poo-slinging monkey. Nice work.

  • Bottom line is the guy sustained a serious injury.

    It's pretty lame to question his manhood.

    Yeah, I know, some would have played with their leg ripped off and one eye poked out.....yada, yada

  • First he was def hurt..

    second i found the real reason though why he didnt go back in..

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  • Like many, I am not a big Cutler fan, but give the guy a break. He got hurt, Lovie Smith said he and the medical staff helped make the decision in Cutler continuing to play and they all agreed to pull him.

    Here are the stats from the 2010 New York Life Protection Index which is a measure of offensive line effectivenes. The totals are for 16 games and the higher the # the better. Chicago was dead last. I think Cutler has proven his toughness this year. Maybe he's not the smartest or most social person in the world, who knows. I'm not 100% convinced he was listening to an MP3 player either, could have been a head set.

    What I do know is that most, if not all, people on this board (including me) couldn't even tie his shoes when it comes to playing NFL QB.

    THOSE WHO CAN'T, COACH. We can also add THOSE WHO NEVER COULD, CRITICIZE.

    http://newyorklife.stats.com/fb/protection.asp?type=overall

    Rank Team Games Index

    1 Indianapolis Colts 16 90.7

    2 New Orleans Saints 16 81.0

    3 New York Giants 16 80.3

    4 Atlanta Falcons 16 77.7

    5 New England Patriots 16 72.8

    6 Houston Texans 16 72.6

    7 Cincinnati Bengals 16 71.8

    8 Detroit Lions 16 70.3

    9 Denver Broncos 16 69.2

    10 San Diego Chargers 16 68.9

    11 New York Jets 16 67.8

    12 Dallas Cowboys 16 67.6

    13 Tennessee Titans 16 65.6

    14 Green Bay Packers 16 65.3

    15 Miami Dolphins 16 64.5

    16 Seattle Seahawks 16 63.2

    17 St. Louis Rams 16 61.2

    18 Baltimore Ravens 16 58.3

    19 Buffalo Bills 16 57.3

    20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 57.1

    21 Cleveland Browns 16 56.7

    22 Arizona Cardinals 16 55.3

    23 Washington Redskins 16 54.0

    24 Minnesota Vikings 16 52.4

    25 Kansas City Chiefs 16 52.2

    26 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 51.1

    27 San Francisco 49ers 16 45.9

    28 Philadelphia Eagles 16 45.1

    29 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 45.0

    30 Carolina Panthers 16 40.9

    31 Oakland Raiders 16 39.0

    32 Chicago Bears 16 33.1

  • Anyone who's torn anything in their knee before, knows that its no joke. He did try to go out there for one more series, and then was benched.

    When Hanie was playing well and scoring, Cutler was standing and cheering.

    I've torn my ACL and probably my MCL and LCL and the lack of stability in the knee because of these things is huge. Now imagine you are trying to put a lot of lateral pressure on the knee with this kind of tear, while 300 lb linemen are bearing down on you.

    Not everyone is Kosar, who played the last half of a game on a broken ankle.

    @thaak said:

    Anyone who's torn anything in their knee before, knows that its no joke. He did try to go out there for one more series, and then was benched.

    When Hanie was playing well and scoring, Cutler was standing and cheering.

    I've torn my ACL and probably my MCL and LCL and the lack of stability in the knee because of these things is huge. Now imagine you are trying to put a lot of lateral pressure on the knee with this kind of tear, while 300 lb linemen are bearing down on you.

    Not everyone is Kosar, who played the last half of a game on a broken ankle.

    This x 1,000!

    I tore my ACL, MCL and PCL in my left knee my senior year of high school. Just trying to walk on that was painful and I had to be physically carried by lineman off the field.

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

  • @thaak said:

    Anyone who's torn anything in their knee before, knows that its no joke. He did try to go out there for one more series, and then was benched.

    When Hanie was playing well and scoring, Cutler was standing and cheering.

    I've torn my ACL and probably my MCL and LCL and the lack of stability in the knee because of these things is huge. Now imagine you are trying to put a lot of lateral pressure on the knee with this kind of tear, while 300 lb linemen are bearing down on you.

    Not everyone is Kosar, who played the last half of a game on a broken ankle.

    This x 1,000!

    I tore my ACL, MCL and PCL in my left knee my senior year of high school. Just trying to walk on that was painful and I had to be physically carried by lineman off the field.

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

    @next2nothing said:

    This x 1,000!

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

  • @next2nothing said:

    This x 1,000!

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    i would blow you for 20 million dollars. The thing is, he was hurt..

    PEOPLE LET IT GO..

  • @next2nothing said:

    This x 1,000!

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    It would depend on how I could perform. If the injury affected how I could play and if I felt it was going to hurt the team then no.

    According to the reports I heard last night it affected his plant foot and throws. So if Cutler goes out and throws a pick 6 or has a few bad throws in succession then fans would have been mad anyway.

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    It would depend on how I could perform. If the injury affected how I could play and if I felt it was going to hurt the team then no.

    According to the reports I heard last night it affected his plant foot and throws. So if Cutler goes out and throws a pick 6 or has a few bad throws in succession then fans would have been mad anyway.

    @next2nothing said:

    It would depend on how I could perform. If the injury affected how I could play and if I felt it was going to hurt the team then no.

    According to the reports I heard last night it affected his plant foot and throws. So if Cutler goes out and throws a pick 6 or has a few bad throws in succession then fans would have been mad anyway.

    Good point. The fans should be happy they made it that far. I know I would be lol.

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    i would blow you for 20 million dollars. The thing is, he was hurt..

    PEOPLE LET IT GO..

    @wrrebel said:

    i would blow you for 20 million dollars. The thing is, he was hurt..

    PEOPLE LET IT GO..

    Do you take American Express?

  • 20 million? take a nut and a couple of fingers and toes, but i'd still want to be able to walk. just ask steven hawking. how much gash has he been getting lately?
  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    With all due respect,

    it takes a HUGE set of cajones to play football at any level. At the NFL level? You have to also be mentally ill to not have fear for your body and your health. It's pretty easy to sit back and call a guy a poosee for not catching a pass, making an extra yard, hanging in to get blasted before releasing the ball, or any other play on the field.

    Seriously, WTF? Cutler has been there, he has taken his share of hits, clean and otherwise.

    I suppose since he controlled himself instead of putting on a show that he was writhing in pain, he isn't believable.

    Meanwhile Ben cries on the field over being so emotional blah blah blah..............

    In both cases, so f-ing what? You go out there and let Harrison rearrange your testicles a few times and then tell me about being tough.

    If the guy says he's hurt, it should be good enough......... for EVERYONE.

    Cutler is a tough guy and a good kid. He had a great year, took his team deep into the playoffs and doesn't have a damned thing to be ashamed of.

    i agree with your view as many others about this topic.

    i just can't believe all these former players taking shots at him and i'm just talking about what i see on espn. since when did tom jackson become 'mr. controversy'. and trent dilfer is the biggest talking head out of them all. i think he knows a lot about the game and i like the way he breaks things down, BUT what the F did he ever do? he basically got handed the super bowl ring by a ravens defense w/o doing squadoosh. and now you are blasting a guy that was hurt? GTFO.

  • The fact of whether he was really hurt or not is between him, his knee, the doctors on the team, and his conscience. That said, there is no excuse for his behavior on the sidelines. He was pouting around and generally acting disinterested. That shot they had of poor Hanie looking at coverages sitting next to Cutler while Jay was just staring blankly said a lot about his character IMO. You would think that Cutler might have had some interest in helping Hanie out, but nope, he just sat there like a whining child. If he was a Brown, I would be screaming to ship him straight out of town for that.

    @bonedawg said:

    That shot they had of poor Hanie looking at coverages sitting next to Cutler while Jay was just staring blankly said a lot about his character IMO.

    Unexcusable. If I were a Bears fan I'd want him out of town before midnight.