Mike Tomlin might be on a short leash
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I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10015/1028435-66.stm
The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play. That reflects on Tomlin. If he does not fix that soon they will keep losing. They need to shore up special teams all of them return teams and especially kicking teams. They have the weapons to be a pass first dominate offensive team. What they need is a bruiser back who can finish games off like Bettis did. Ben is one of the top three QB's in football and his best in crunch time. Fixing the age on D and those special teams are way more important than dominating run game.
BTW, the dominating run game did the Ravens well last night
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JosephSixpack said:
How did I ever guess you squids would be all over that article as soon as it came out?For the record, Artie did the same thing with/to Cowher before the '05 season. The same little pep talk, only this came with the message "it's time to win it all Bill -- or else."
The million-dollar question: how did that year turn out?
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
As I recall that season ended with the Seattle Seahawks being repeatedly anally violated on National TV by the obviously biased officiating crew. You can bet your acne covered ass that Mr. Holmgren remembers THAT.
Doug
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how beautiful would it be if Holmy had a chip on his shoulders for the pukes too.
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I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10015/1028435-66.stm
The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play. That reflects on Tomlin. If he does not fix that soon they will keep losing. They need to shore up special teams all of them return teams and especially kicking teams. They have the weapons to be a pass first dominate offensive team. What they need is a bruiser back who can finish games off like Bettis did. Ben is one of the top three QB's in football and his best in crunch time. Fixing the age on D and those special teams are way more important than dominating run game.
BTW, the dominating run game did the Ravens well last night
The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play.
So you attribute Rothlisberger being sacked 8 times by the Browns to awful special teams play?
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how beautiful would it be if Holmy had a chip on his shoulders for the pukes too.
how beautiful would it be if Holmy had a chip on his shoulders for the pukes too.
i hope he does.....it means he'll place the same importance (and satisfaction) on whoopin their asses every year.
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I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10015/1028435-66.stm
The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play. That reflects on Tomlin. If he does not fix that soon they will keep losing. They need to shore up special teams all of them return teams and especially kicking teams. They have the weapons to be a pass first dominate offensive team. What they need is a bruiser back who can finish games off like Bettis did. Ben is one of the top three QB's in football and his best in crunch time. Fixing the age on D and those special teams are way more important than dominating run game.
BTW, the dominating run game did the Ravens well last night
The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play. That reflects on Tomlin. If he does not fix that soon they will keep losing. They need to shore up special teams all of them return teams and especially kicking teams. They have the weapons to be a pass first dominate offensive team. What they need is a bruiser back who can finish games off like Bettis did. Ben is one of the top three QB's in football and his best in crunch time. Fixing the age on D and those special teams are way more important than dominating run game.
BTW, the dominating run game did the Ravens well last night
Well Rich I mostly agree with you- the Steelers may possibly have the worst Special teams in the NFL, but that's not the biggest issue. Yeah, they need another Jerome Bettis- good luck on finding one. But finding adequate pass blockers has to be their #1 priority. Ben's already taken a severe pounding and he's a candidate for a shortened career if the sacks keep piling up at the same rate. And there's the issues of age on D- Hampton is 31, Farrior is 35. That's a lot of holes to try and fill in one offseason.
Yeah, I noticed what a good running game will do in the playoffs- not just the Ravens, the Jets won that game not because of Sanchez, but the superior running attack. I'm glad we don't have to hear Sheps incessant mantra MUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT draft qb, MUUUUUUUsssst draft qb.
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The Steelers problems were not on offense. Nor the inability to run the ball. They lost three games because of awful special teams play. That reflects on Tomlin. If he does not fix that soon they will keep losing. They need to shore up special teams all of them return teams and especially kicking teams. They have the weapons to be a pass first dominate offensive team. What they need is a bruiser back who can finish games off like Bettis did. Ben is one of the top three QB's in football and his best in crunch time. Fixing the age on D and those special teams are way more important than dominating run game.
BTW, the dominating run game did the Ravens well last night
Well Rich I mostly agree with you- the Steelers may possibly have the worst Special teams in the NFL, but that's not the biggest issue. Yeah, they need another Jerome Bettis- good luck on finding one. But finding adequate pass blockers has to be their #1 priority. Ben's already taken a severe pounding and he's a candidate for a shortened career if the sacks keep piling up at the same rate. And there's the issues of age on D- Hampton is 31, Farrior is 35. That's a lot of holes to try and fill in one offseason.
Yeah, I noticed what a good running game will do in the playoffs- not just the Ravens, the Jets won that game not because of Sanchez, but the superior running attack. I'm glad we don't have to hear Sheps incessant mantra MUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT draft qb, MUUUUUUUsssst draft qb.
Well Rich I mostly agree with you- the Steelers may possibly have the worst Special teams in the NFL, but that's not the biggest issue. Yeah, they need another Jerome Bettis- good luck on finding one. But finding adequate pass blockers has to be their #1 priority. Ben's already taken a severe pounding and he's a candidate for a shortened career if the sacks keep piling up at the same rate. And there's the issues of age on D- Hampton is 31, Farrior is 35. That's a lot of holes to try and fill in one offseason.
Yeah, I noticed what a good running game will do in the playoffs- not just the Ravens, the Jets won that game not because of Sanchez, but the superior running attack. I'm glad we don't have to hear Sheps incessant mantra MUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT draft qb, MUUUUUUUsssst draft qb.
Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
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Well Rich I mostly agree with you- the Steelers may possibly have the worst Special teams in the NFL, but that's not the biggest issue. Yeah, they need another Jerome Bettis- good luck on finding one. But finding adequate pass blockers has to be their #1 priority. Ben's already taken a severe pounding and he's a candidate for a shortened career if the sacks keep piling up at the same rate. And there's the issues of age on D- Hampton is 31, Farrior is 35. That's a lot of holes to try and fill in one offseason.
Yeah, I noticed what a good running game will do in the playoffs- not just the Ravens, the Jets won that game not because of Sanchez, but the superior running attack. I'm glad we don't have to hear Sheps incessant mantra MUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT draft qb, MUUUUUUUsssst draft qb.
Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
SpeedyD says, How much time out of your life did you waste looking for this topic just to say that?
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Well Rich I mostly agree with you- the Steelers may possibly have the worst Special teams in the NFL, but that's not the biggest issue. Yeah, they need another Jerome Bettis- good luck on finding one. But finding adequate pass blockers has to be their #1 priority. Ben's already taken a severe pounding and he's a candidate for a shortened career if the sacks keep piling up at the same rate. And there's the issues of age on D- Hampton is 31, Farrior is 35. That's a lot of holes to try and fill in one offseason.
Yeah, I noticed what a good running game will do in the playoffs- not just the Ravens, the Jets won that game not because of Sanchez, but the superior running attack. I'm glad we don't have to hear Sheps incessant mantra MUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT draft qb, MUUUUUUUsssst draft qb.
Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
:lol: :lol: :lol: Are there any Browns fans who _aren't_ Retarded?
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Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"
:lol: :lol: :lol: Are there any Browns fans who _aren't_ Retarded?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Are there any Browns fans who _aren't_ Retarded?
You ask this, but who is the Ri tard? Your team is in the Superbowl, for most fans they would be in a packers forum trash talking or maybe a Jets forum gloating...
You my friend are in a browns forum, we were 5-11 the last two years..
Im a yankee fan and I wouldnt want to go into an orioles forum, let alone a pirates one.. Wait do they have a pirates forum?
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I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
How the hell did I miss the gem? Tomlin is not on thin ice and WON'T be on thin ice and I would have said the same the day this mental sh.it was posted. The Rooney's don't bail on their coaches and those comments were more of a Bruce Arians comment than a Mike Tomlin comment.
EDIT: Lol probably because this was posted LAST YEAR! why would someone bump this?
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I'll be the first to admit that losing 5 games in a row for PGH sends a message to players and coaches. Tomlin has fired the offensive line coach and special teams coach but if another bad season happens I suspect Tomlin might be on his way out.
Words from Art Rooney II
1) Telling the coach you need to run the ball more consistently. Rooney said his coach has conveyed that to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Mike has talked to Bruce about that." When the owner has to tell the coach how to coach that is not good.
2) Rooney said he is satisfied with the job Tomlin has done over the past three years, although he thought the final three games of the 2009 season were crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak. "It was a rough stretch, it was very disappointing," Rooney said of the losing streak. "It basically cost us a chance to defend the title. Read crucial both to the coach and the organization after a troubling five-game losing streak.
3) "I think that was important for the organization and it was important for Mike to show everybody that he's the kind of coach who is not going to lose his team and [who will] keep them in the right direction all the way down to the end," said Rooney. "I think we learned something about Mike, and what we learned I think is positive for the future."
too many I thinks. Tomlin will be gone if he does not make the playoffs next year.
The Rooney's won't put up with losing. Tomlin better figure out how to win games like Cowher did or bye bye Mike.
How the hell did I miss the gem? Tomlin is not on thin ice and WON'T be on thin ice and I would have said the same the day this mental sh.it was posted. The Rooney's don't bail on their coaches and those comments were more of a Bruce Arians comment than a Mike Tomlin comment.
EDIT: Lol probably because this was posted LAST YEAR! why would someone bump this?
Homotron said:
How the hell did I miss the gem? Tomlin is not on thin ice and WON'T be on thin ice and I would have said the same the day this mental sh.it was posted. The Rooney's don't bail on their coaches and those comments were more of a Bruce Arians comment than a Mike Tomlin comment.EDIT: Lol probably because this was posted LAST YEAR! why would someone bump this?
Yeah, I don't know why some troll would bump a year old thread. Unlike some folks, I'll admit I greatly overestimated the demise of the Steelers. Your o-line coach deserves a huge bonus for overcoming the injuries, Mendenhall, Wallace & Hood have stepped it up.
Concerns? Ben's tough, but not invincible- his propensity for taking shots may catch up with him someday.
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I hear the theme from the Twilight Zone playing in the distance..............delete.
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Is this for real??? Being head coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers has more job security than being a justice on the Supreme Court (what up Byron "Whizzer" White!)
He'd have to REALLY screw up bad to get the boot. In four years I think he's doing a pretty damn good job of sticking around IMHO.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Are there any Browns fans who _aren't_ Retarded?
You ask this, but who is the Ri tard? Your team is in the Superbowl, for most fans they would be in a packers forum trash talking or maybe a Jets forum gloating...
You my friend are in a browns forum, we were 5-11 the last two years..
Im a yankee fan and I wouldnt want to go into an orioles forum, let alone a pirates one.. Wait do they have a pirates forum?
You ask this, but who is the Ri tard? Your team is in the Superbowl, for most fans they would be in a packers forum trash talking or maybe a Jets forum gloating...
You my friend are in a browns forum, we were 5-11 the last two years..
Im a yankee fan and I wouldnt want to go into an orioles forum, let alone a pirates one.. Wait do they have a pirates forum?
Do the Pirates even have a team anymore? hahaha maybe they can find some little league kids this year and win more than 5 games
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You ask this, but who is the Ri tard? Your team is in the Superbowl, for most fans they would be in a packers forum trash talking or maybe a Jets forum gloating...
You my friend are in a browns forum, we were 5-11 the last two years..
Im a yankee fan and I wouldnt want to go into an orioles forum, let alone a pirates one.. Wait do they have a pirates forum?
Do the Pirates even have a team anymore? hahaha maybe they can find some little league kids this year and win more than 5 games
Do the Pirates even have a team anymore? hahaha maybe they can find some little league kids this year and win more than 5 games
Storied franchise that has been putrid for the last decade or longer. They do have a solid farm system but usually send off the top tier talent for more farm talent. I expect them to turn it around eventually but a few terrible owners have kept them from a rebound. Let's not forget the Indians. Man they've been on fire! lol.
hey who has more World Series titles?
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Are the Steelers more loaded with talent (compared to competitors) now or is the team better coached now? It didn't take long for Tomlin to surpass Cowher in Super Bowl appearances. (Am I right in thinking that Cowher had just one SB appearance? I know he won just one.)
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Do the Pirates even have a team anymore? hahaha maybe they can find some little league kids this year and win more than 5 games
Storied franchise that has been putrid for the last decade or longer. They do have a solid farm system but usually send off the top tier talent for more farm talent. I expect them to turn it around eventually but a few terrible owners have kept them from a rebound. Let's not forget the Indians. Man they've been on fire! lol.
hey who has more World Series titles?
Homotron said:
Storied franchise that has been putrid for the last decade or longer. They do have a solid farm system but usually send off the top tier talent for more farm talent. I expect them to turn it around eventually but a few terrible owners have kept them from a rebound. Let's not forget the Indians. Man they've been on fire! lol.hey who has more World Series titles?
When did they win their last title? Storied franchise that won titles back when there were 28 teams or fewer. Two of those before the integration of black people into MLB. Sorry but those don't count. Sound familiar faggot?
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Bill Cowher................ the "great" winner.............1994 AFC Championship Game LOSS
1995 Super Bowl LOSS
1997 AFC Vivisional Game LOSS
2001 AFC Championship Game LOSS
2004 AFC Championship Game LOSS
Tomlin is in the hot seat? Horse manure, I don't believe it.
Cowher reached more Conference Championship Games in his 15 years than 22 NFL Franchises (including the Browns) have done in 40.
During his tenure (1992-2006), the Steelers had the most wins and the best winning percentage in the league.
Cowher won Division Titles AND Playoff Games with 5 different starting QBs - find another Head Coach who has accomplished that.
Fact is - they got that far (the AFC Championship Game) and 2 Super Bowls and you're calling him a LOSER?
What would that make the Browns during that time? They had 2 winning seasons (one of which was the "ever impressive 9-7") and 2 playoff appearances and 0 Division Titles. Cowher had 8 Division Championships and 10 Playoff Appearances.
The reality is that you would have given anything for the kind of success that Cowher had - and you'd be lying to yourself if you say anything different.
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