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Berns To Coach---Elsewhere???

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  • Riffer X Riffer XR Very Popular Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/...oin_the_ne.html

    This will perk yinz up.

    Is a pig's ass pork?
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      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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      I would prefer him to get a job with the Browns. But if they won't give him a job I'm not against him working for another team, even if it's in the division.

      Ruining threads since 1897.
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        NewEraDawgN NewEraDawg wrote on last edited by
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        we have enough coaches that are on the job training .

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          Has Bernie ever actually been a coach anywhere besides his daughter's pee wee teams?

          Not that he may not be capable, but I just don't think he has any experience.

          Further....isn't he still connected with the Gladiators Arena League team?

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            Make him quarterback coach with the Browns. Now.

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              D daddybull1 wrote on last edited by
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              Bernie can read defense's as good as any QB that played the game... If you catch him on the pre season broadcasts, he usually calls the play or says what play should be called as the teams go to the line of scrimmage.. Now granted, pre season offense & defense is pretty vanilla -- football 101 but it shows he knows the game...

              He'd be a great playcaller in the NFL..

              If he truely wants to dedicate himself to the rigors of an NFL schedule with the personal sacrifices you have to make, then I think it's highly likely He'll succeed...

              If thats the case the Browns sure as hell better put him on the payroll.. I don't want to see another Brown (Paul & Noll) have success with another team...

              Great football mind...

              Peace

              T.Dawg

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                NewEraDawgN NewEraDawg wrote on last edited by
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                I would be wondering what his motivation is at this point . Besides money . And why it took him so long to decide to finally do it .

                It just don't pass the smell test to me .

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                  D daddybull1 wrote on last edited by
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                  Bernie has gone through some rough personal issues in the past few years... Maybe his head is starting to clear and he yearns for the spotlight again..

                  He still owe's the Browns some major benjamins so maybe there might be some hard feelings in the mix..

                  Bernie Kosar is a Cleveland icon, his name is immediately associated with Cleveland..Hope we keep it that way..

                  Peace

                  T.Dawg

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                    Bernie has gone through some rough personal issues in the past few years... Maybe his head is starting to clear and he yearns for the spotlight again..

                    He still owe's the Browns some major benjamins so maybe there might be some hard feelings in the mix..

                    Bernie Kosar is a Cleveland icon, his name is immediately associated with Cleveland..Hope we keep it that way..

                    Peace

                    T.Dawg

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @daddybull1 said:

                    Bernie has gone through some rough personal issues in the past few years... Maybe his head is starting to clear and he yearns for the spotlight again..

                    He still owe's the Browns some major benjamins so maybe there might be some hard feelings in the mix..

                    Why does he owe the Browns money? I mean, the Browns are not a bank that lends out money. If anything he is paid by them for broadcasting. Perhaps he owes Rander Lerner on a personal loan, but not the Browns. Just curious, never heard anything about this.

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                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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                      This makes Me absolutely sick to my effin stomach...Maybe football is just dead here...fukc

                      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                        There was recently an article on Bernie, his divorce, him raising his children and it highlighted the numerous injuries he sustained throughout his career...

                        In the article it said that Kosar had a personal loan from Lerner (not sure if it was Sr. or Jr. Lerner) something like 1.5 million...

                        There was a lot of mud thrown around by his ex and I believe there were some acuisations about substance abuse..

                        A few years back I saw him at a pre season game and he seemed to be buzzed but truthfully Bernie was always a bit goofy in his speach so he could have been completely normal...

                        Granted, he did do the kneel down for Dallas in the Super Bowl but he never left Cleveland on his own---he was asked to leave--diminishing skills I believe...

                        I like Bernie, has a great football mind and in my mind He'll always be a Brown...

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Kosar came in for Aikman in the playoff game, and led the Cowboys to a winning score, to GET to the superbowl.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Kosar

                            The Dallas Cowboys then signed Kosar to a one-year, $1 million contract to fill in for an injured Troy Aikman. Kosar performed well in four games for the Cowboys and earned his only championship ring as a backup in Super Bowl XXVIII. A week prior to the Super Bowl, Kosar relieved an injured Aikman in the second half of the NFC championship game against the San Francisco 49ers, completing five of nine pass attempts for 83 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions.

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                              BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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                              I find it odd that Bernie would want to join the Pats. Was it not Belichick who let him go for diminishing skills...

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                                I find it odd that Bernie would want to join the Pats. Was it not Belichick who let him go for diminishing skills...

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @brownskidd said:

                                I find it odd that Bernie would want to join the Pats. Was it not Belichick who let him go for diminishing skills...

                                I understand they long ago patched up their differences. It was probably Belichick who "apologized" to Bernie for not giving the veteran QB a free hand at changing whatever plays were called, and for cutting him when he had no viable alternative.

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                                  runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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                                  I think Kosar could be a excellent QB coach, as someone else mentioned when you watch the preseason games you can tell he knows about the defenses what play calls should be and how the QB should react/audible against those defenses. And since our OC wont be a true OC you could even start Bernie out as QB coach and maybe work his way up to the working OC at some point.

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                                    I think Kosar could be a excellent QB coach, as someone else mentioned when you watch the preseason games you can tell he knows about the defenses what play calls should be and how the QB should react/audible against those defenses. And since our OC wont be a true OC you could even start Bernie out as QB coach and maybe work his way up to the working OC at some point.

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                                    lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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                                    @runyon27 said:

                                    I think Kosar could be a excellent QB coach, as someone else mentioned when you watch the preseason games you can tell he knows about the defenses what play calls should be and how the QB should react/audible against those defenses. And since our OC wont be a true OC you could even start Bernie out as QB coach and maybe work his way up to the working OC at some point.

                                    Bernie would be an excellent addition to any team, as a qb coach....maybe even OC. Here's the problem: If Holmgren brought Bernie in, it would once again, become Bernie's team. He is a home town hero, who did well here, and was let go in '93....not due to "diminished skills"...which actually was true to some extent, but due to the power struggle between him and Bellichick. Holmgren would risk a repeat of that same situation, which was not good for the team, or anyone involved. The way I saw it back then, was that Belichick was a weasel, just trying to sabatoge the team. The way I see it today, is that Bernie was undermining Belichick's authority with the players, and had to be removed to move forward. No matter how pissed off we were about how it was done, it was absolutely the only way for the HC to get complete control of the team. Personally. I would love to see Kosar come in as a qb coach. No matter what you think of him, there is no denying that he is one of the smartest qb's to ever play the game. Holmgren will never put himself in that situation...to be made out to be the villain, if Bernie disagrees with him. At this point, who knows if Holmgren is the answer?....I hope so.....but I'm not sold on him, yet.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

                                      He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

                                      was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

                                      and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

                                      outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

                                      Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

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                                        I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

                                        He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

                                        was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

                                        and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

                                        outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

                                        Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

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                                        lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

                                        He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

                                        was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

                                        and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

                                        outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

                                        Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

                                        Believe me....I'm no Bellichick fan. The way to win fans over is not to come in and remove all the favorite players of the fans. Bellichick did the same thing in New England....and it obviuosly worked. I know they weren't exactly thrilled when he went with Brady over Bledsoe. I think Bellichick's whole philosophy is to make changes where he thinks they need to be made...no matter what anyone else thinks. You have to have a little respect for the guy.....doing what he feels is the right thing, no matter how unpopular that is.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                          No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG

                                          Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out

                                          of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland.

                                          It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up,

                                          and even developed some people skills with the Patriots.

                                          But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland.

                                          But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns.

                                          And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him...

                                          he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't

                                          change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in

                                          the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while

                                          on vacation in this off-season. 😉

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