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  • C calfoxwc

    I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

    He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

    was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

    and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

    outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

    Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

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    @calfoxwc said:

    I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

    He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

    was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

    and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

    outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

    Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

    Believe me....I'm no Bellichick fan. The way to win fans over is not to come in and remove all the favorite players of the fans. Bellichick did the same thing in New England....and it obviuosly worked. I know they weren't exactly thrilled when he went with Brady over Bledsoe. I think Bellichick's whole philosophy is to make changes where he thinks they need to be made...no matter what anyone else thinks. You have to have a little respect for the guy.....doing what he feels is the right thing, no matter how unpopular that is.

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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      No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG

      Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out

      of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland.

      It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up,

      and even developed some people skills with the Patriots.

      But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland.

      But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns.

      And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him...

      he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't

      change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in

      the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while

      on vacation in this off-season. 😉

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        No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG

        Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out

        of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland.

        It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up,

        and even developed some people skills with the Patriots.

        But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland.

        But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns.

        And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him...

        he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't

        change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in

        the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while

        on vacation in this off-season. 😉

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        lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by lodilobo
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        @calfoxwc said:

        No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG

        Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out

        of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland.

        It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up,

        and even developed some people skills with the Patriots.

        But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland.

        But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns.

        And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him...

        he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't

        change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in

        the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while

        on vacation in this off-season. 😉

        Lol!...well...at least you're not bitter. You know....I felt the same way. In fact, after he cut Bernie, I rooted against the Browns, hoping Modell would fire the little prick if he lost enough games. I could go as far to say that the main reason Modell kept Bellichick...even after all the fans being pissed off, was because it was all part of Modell's plan. He knew he was leaving, and maybe thought if he alienated most of the fans, "the move" wouldn't have been so traumatic for both parties. Just part of my conspiracy theory.

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          D daddybull1 wrote on last edited by
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          Belechick went with Brady because Bledsoe got injuried -- not because of some genius coaching move...

          In fact, Brady himself got injured in a playoff game later that year in Pittsburgh and Bledsoe came in to save the day (if I remember correctly)...

          Belechick got Brady by default not by his brilliant talent evaluation....

          Peace

          T.Dawg

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          • C calfoxwc

            I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

            He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

            was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

            and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

            outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

            Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

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            @calfoxwc said:

            I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though.

            He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense

            was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards,

            and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his

            outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping

            Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso...

            What i heard is Bernie punched at Billicheck.

            There is more to the story than Bernie changing a play.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            • D daddybull1

              Belechick went with Brady because Bledsoe got injuried -- not because of some genius coaching move...

              In fact, Brady himself got injured in a playoff game later that year in Pittsburgh and Bledsoe came in to save the day (if I remember correctly)...

              Belechick got Brady by default not by his brilliant talent evaluation....

              Peace

              T.Dawg

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              lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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              @daddybull1 said:

              Belechick went with Brady because Bledsoe got injuried -- not because of some genius coaching move...

              In fact, Brady himself got injured in a playoff game later that year in Pittsburgh and Bledsoe came in to save the day (if I remember correctly)...

              Belechick got Brady by default not by his brilliant talent evaluation....

              Peace

              T.Dawg

              You're right...kind of. Bledsoe was hurt, and BB went to Brady. But...when he found out what he had in Brady, he stuck with him, and cut Bledsoe, eventually. I remember...there were a lot of pissed off New England fans. Also....who do you suppose picked Brady in the 6th round of the draft?

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                What i heard is Bernie punched at Billicheck.

                There is more to the story than Bernie changing a play. Ballpeen

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                What I heard, is that the whole Browns offense wanted

                to elbow Butticheck in the nose, and Butticheck shoved Bernie first,

                and injured his hand when Kosar didn't move an inch, then Butticheck cried,

                and Kosar went out and changed the play, and got a TOUCHDOWN, and Butticheck

                wet his pants and kicked Bernie off the team. @@

                Whatever. I'm never going to respect Butticheck, and my decision is final. 😉

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                  N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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                  All else aside why couldnt we bring him in as a QB coach for the Browns or something along those lines, im guessing it has something to do with money as someone else said???

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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    bernie did more for the browns past the championship era than any other player. the fact that he might look at another team for a coaching position has nothing to do with belichick or anything else for that matter concerning the browns EXCEPT if he does want to coach now and not here i believe it has more to do with holmgren's overinflated ego and his make-believe status that would make ANY 'REAL' legitimate football mind not want to be anywhere near this FAT FXXK.

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                      D daddybull1 wrote on last edited by
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                      IODIL, if Belecheat was such a good talent evaluater why did he wait till the 6th round to pick Brady?????

                      He was doing what he was taught by Parcells- you always pick a QB in the later rounds of every draft..

                      I believe Holmgren does the same.

                      He didn't play Brady until he performed on the field like he did every day in practice- genius my ass.

                      Peace

                      T.Dawg

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                        D Dirty Hands wrote on last edited by
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                        @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                        If Belichik hires Kosar, then I agree with Y'all. Belichik is an asshole.

                        Sorry, he ain't getting hired by the Pats.

                        I actually wouldn't be surprised if he did get hired by the pats rumor is that they're the front runner....per his dad who brings his car into the shop i work at in boardman

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                          C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                          mikeyP72 said:

                          We hired Whipple and a few other assistants, probably no Bernie.

                          I'm not picking on you, Mikey, your was the post that finally made me respond to this thread.

                          In short, who cares what Kosar does?

                          He had a nice run in Cleveland and, for a relatively short period of time, was considered to be a 'franchise quarterback'.

                          However, his legend doesn't extend much beyond the imaginations of Browns' fans still aching for a Super Bowl.

                          I like BK. He was a good guy.

                          Let's not go crazy, though.

                          "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                            mikeyP72 said:

                            We hired Whipple and a few other assistants, probably no Bernie.

                            I'm not picking on you, Mikey, your was the post that finally made me respond to this thread.

                            In short, who cares what Kosar does?

                            He had a nice run in Cleveland and, for a relatively short period of time, was considered to be a 'franchise quarterback'.

                            However, his legend doesn't extend much beyond the imaginations of Browns' fans still aching for a Super Bowl.

                            I like BK. He was a good guy.

                            Let's not go crazy, though.

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                            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                            @chicopee-john said:

                            I'm not picking on you, Mikey, your was the post that finally made me respond to this thread.

                            In short, who cares what Kosar does?

                            He had a nice run in Cleveland and, for a relatively short period of time, was considered to be a 'franchise quarterback'.

                            However, his legend doesn't extend much beyond the imaginations of Browns' fans still aching for a Super Bowl.

                            I like BK. He was a good guy.

                            Let's not go crazy, though.

                            yeah, so who has been better in the post 'championship era? you are delirious. he was the smartest QB ever to play for the browns. he couldn't be a QB coach in this league and teach someone in this league full of dummies?

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                              @chicopee-john said:

                              I'm not picking on you, Mikey, your was the post that finally made me respond to this thread.

                              In short, who cares what Kosar does?

                              He had a nice run in Cleveland and, for a relatively short period of time, was considered to be a 'franchise quarterback'.

                              However, his legend doesn't extend much beyond the imaginations of Browns' fans still aching for a Super Bowl.

                              I like BK. He was a good guy.

                              Let's not go crazy, though.

                              yeah, so who has been better in the post 'championship era? you are delirious. he was the smartest QB ever to play for the browns. he couldn't be a QB coach in this league and teach someone in this league full of dummies?

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                              C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                              @miktoxic said:

                              yeah, so who has been better in the post 'championship era? you are delirious. he was the smartest QB ever to play for the browns. he couldn't be a QB in this league full of maybe a handful of smart QBs?

                              Clearly an indication of the bad weather and more and more, 'snow days'.

                              "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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