Ok, This is going to get messy

Go 'Losers

Vermin checking in!

I know you must be talking about the bandwagon fans outside Pennsylvania. We lost but I was certainly proud of the way our fans handled it last night. They had the streets blocked off in case a celebration ensued but even after the loss we still milled around the streets for a little while, nothing to celebrate obviously but chatted a while and agreed it was a great season before going back home. I thought a riot cop was about to bust a group with open containers but to my surprise let them off with a "just keep it on the sidewalk" warning, gotta love it.

And of course there is a connection we have with our team. Both my dad and grandfather worked for a time in the steel mills. My grandfather came to Pittsburgh from Italy when he was 15, without friends or family, and didn't speak English. Days after work he and his buddies too the trolley down to the games. At least I know I have a connection.

But despite being bummed that we lost the general mood in town today is that we'll "get 'em next year," focus on the draft, and patiently await next season. Any fan would.

jrb12711

broseph, we all get it but calm down man. There was already a merged thread of about 6-7 threads made and you started two yourself. I hate the Steelers and the trolls as much as the next guy, but don't reach. It doesn't make you look good.

Vagitron

@pizzadeliveryguy said:
Thanks to drops and injuries.

We didn't have injuries or drops? They're a part of the game last I checked. I've also explained 500 times why I hit this board russwhatever the hell your name is and I've stuck around for the entertainment factor and division news. Look how many Steeler threads are on this message board a day after the Super Bowl. You'd think you just played in the Super Bowl. Now that is pathetic.

pizzadeliveryguy

Homotron said:
We didn't have injuries or drops? They're a part of the game last I checked. I've also explained 500 times why I hit this board russwhatever the hell your name is and I've stuck around for the entertainment factor and division news. Look how many Steeler threads are on this message board a day after the Super Bowl. You'd think you just played in the Super Bowl. Now that is pathetic.

Not the caliber of players like Woodson and Driver. Also, Jones and Nelson had drops that had they caught the ball they would have still been running. Its all excuses just like your 3 turnover excuse which was pretty much my point. You do seem quite a bit more bitter today for some reason.

SJ_Browns

@pizzadeliveryguy said:
You do seem quite a bit more bitter today for some reason.

while i think the comments of SOME browns fans in threads like this are pretty lame and pathetic, i think it's more pathetic for steeler fans (after their favorite team just suffered a sb loss) to park their asses on a browns board and retaliate. i just get a laugh at the mindset of these trolls, i think they're funny. they have some serious ocd issues. and yeah, bitterness definitely is playing a factor in them. it's like they're suffering from pms sb loss or something.

nickers

@sj_browns said:
while i think the comments of SOME browns fans in threads like this are pretty lame and pathetic, i think it's more pathetic for steeler fans (after their favorite team just suffered a sb loss) to park their asses on a browns board and retaliate. i just get a laugh at the mindset of these trolls, i think they're funny. they have some seriuous ocd issues. and yeah, bitterness definitely is playing a factor in them. it's like they're suffering from pms sb loss or something.

Its because the Stooler assholes came here and partied thinking they were gonna just waltz in to Dallas...walk to the winners circle and take home a trophy by just showing up and theyre all butthurt cuz it never happened and,theyre in pieces over it like they were some chosen tribe to be annointed.

The Italian DawgPound

Homotron said:
Hey Johnny come lately whatever makes you feel better when your head hits the pillow at night. The loss absolutely sucks but we still reached the Super Bowl in a year a lot of people didn't think we would. The Steelers still had a chance to win with 2 minutes left in the game and they just didn't get it done. The Packers played a good game and you on here with the other mouth breathers celebrating is pretty pathetic if I'm being honest. You know it's bad when you have a contingent of your own calling out fellow Browns fans for a constant stream of idiocy. And isn't the place a "Steeler Hatred forum" I just now realized it's also about the Cleveland Browns lol. Sad, sad group of individuals.

Face it, pal: there are a lot of people celebrating the fact you lost a SB that you all thought you had won already.

Some others are showing more sportsmanlike feelings. I admire them but this does not change the fact that

1. There is a strong rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cleveland fans

2. You have a great team, that could have easily won the 7th title for your franchise after a remarkable season (one of many recent ones)

3. You have a number of stupid fans. People who come to a Browns forum and act like total assholes: when you root for arguably one of the best teams in the league you must be a very sad little man to come over here (arguably one of the franchises with the worst results through the last 10 years) and brag

4. Last night "when my head hit the pillow" I felt very good knowing those sad little men were experiencing something very close to having a live cat in the stomach

5. Unless you are a sad little man, you should know that after months of reading dumb posts of Steelers fans, even regular quiet fans would unleash their deepest revenge feelings on this board

One thing you can be sure of is that the day the Browns will start winning, and you know it will happen, you will certainly not find me bragging on a Steelers fans board.

kshutchins

Back in the day, I would have cheered for the team in my division to win the game. The Steeler fans here and elsewhere have been so obnoxious that I could not bring myself to root for their team. I know a couple of Steeler fans who are pleasant folks and we have a good-natured rivalry but they are the exceptions.

The Gipper

@supersteelers said:
Thank you all for the verbal beatings. I would do the same if it were you. Green Bay deserved to win. You could tell they were better prepared for this game and watched enough film on us to stretch to the moon. I wish Ben would put in that much time, but oh well. We gave it hell even with 3 TO's, but when you dont cause any those are impossible to overcome.
Gipper, why did the NFLN not recognize the Browns championships (im seriously asking)? It really didnt make sense.....

It is a fairly long story that I have told before. In the late 1940s Bert Bell was both the commissioner of the NFL and the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. There had been proposals on the board that there actually be a "Super Bowl" played between the champions of the AAFC and the NFL after the 1948 and 1949 seasons (they would have called it "the World Series of Football"). Bert Bell refused to go along with the proposal under the theory that his Eagles who were the champions of the NFL in both 1948 and 1949 were far superior to the Browns and that such a game would be a wipeout and thus it was superfluous to play such a game. (in reality, he probably harbored the fear that the exact opposite was the fact).

Things being what they were at the time, because of the Browns dominance of the AAFC the league became non-competitive and thus the merger of 1950 occurred with the various AAFC teams being absorbed into the NFL, including the Browns and the 49ers etc.

Now, the schedule makers got this bright idea of doing in the first game of the season what Bell had refused to do at the end of the last two seasons: match the Eagles against the Browns and see who really was the best team. Needless to say, the Browns wiped the field up with the Eagles something like 35-10.

Well, as the result of that embarassment, Bell, in a fit of pettiness, anger, jealousy, and embarrassment declared that the NFL would not recognize the records of the AAFC. His "reasoning" was that there were several of the original games stats sheets that could not be located and thus the 'records and statistics' of the AAFC could not be verified properly.

Of course, however, of those few original stats sheets that couldn't be located there were copies of them readily available. There wasn't one play that occurred in the AAFC that couldn't be accounted for. But that didn't satisfy Bell. He said every single original game sheet had to be presented or the entire records of the AAFC would not be.

Naturally, this action was done merely out of spite over the fact that the Browns had opened a can of whoopass on his team. The fact is, the Pro Football HOF has the stats sheets from the AAFC, and nothing that happened in that league has been lost. The NFL and its subsequent commissioners have simply continued to adhere to the ruling that Bell made 'out of respect' for the man who was commissioner at the time and his rulings. Bell himself is in the HOF, so they just didn't want to disturb the Bell ruling.

The Browns themselves have taken basicall a neutral position on the situation. They came into the league per an agreement that was entered into between them and the NFL at the time and have continued to adhere to that agreement and have not pushed the AAFC issue.

Nevertheless, that doesn't change the fact that the Cleveland Browns were the best team on the planet and that they won their championships in a league that was the equal to the NFL. Had they been member of the NFL in 46-49 I suggest they probably would have won like 3 of the 4 titles in those years.

And, again, it is ONLY in the official NFL rules that don't recognize the AAFC statistics. The Pro Football Hall of Fame, the Sporting News, and any number of other semi-official reporting bodies include the AAFC. See pro-football-reference etc. etc. where all this stuff is included.

Vagitron

@the-italian-dawgpound said:
Face it, pal: there are a lot of people celebrating the fact you lost a SB that you all thought you had won already.
Some others are showing more sportsmanlike feelings. I admire them but this does not change the fact that

1. There is a strong rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cleveland fans

2. You have a great team, that could have easily won the 7th title for your franchise after a remarkable season (one of many recent ones)

3. You have a number of stupid fans. People who come to a Browns forum and act like total assholes: when you root for arguably one of the best teams in the league you must be a very sad little man to come over here (arguably one of the franchises with the worst results through the last 10 years) and brag

4. Last night "when my head hit the pillow" I felt very good knowing those sad little men were experiencing something very close to having a live cat in the stomach

5. Unless you are a sad little man, you should know that after months of reading dumb posts of Steelers fans, even regular quiet fans would unleash their deepest revenge feelings on this board

One thing you can be sure of is that the day the Browns will start winning, and you know it will happen, you will certainly not find me bragging on a Steelers fans board.

Good post and I don't come here to brag. The ONLY time you'll ever see any gloating or anything REMOTELY egotistical exit my mouth is when the sh.it is being slung in my direction 10 fold. I'd say I'm one of the few that hit this board for division news and the occasional intelligent argument. Unfortunately and this happens more often than not a innocent thread or conversation is made in to something completely different because of the mouth breathing masses. Now if you do in fact read more than you post you already know this occurs daily and on a almost religious like basis. The loss sucked big time and the Packers deserved the "W". Please find a post where I've said anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'm not here to troll. I think it's hilarious that I can hit this board at any given time during the week and find a thread with Steeler in the title started by one of your own. It's a well known fact and something routinely chastised by the Browns fans on this board with a little something between the ears. Don't blame me, hell don't blame the trolls. The venue is put down for all to see each and every day. If the foundation wasn't ROUTINELY set this board would be a lot more pleasant. Unfortunately some of the less intelligent live and breath hating the Steelers and at times seem to care less about their Browns. Sad but true and there isn't a soul on this message board that can with a whole heart deny it.

Vagitron

@kshutchins said:
Back in the day, I would have cheered for the team in my division to win the game. The Steeler fans here and elsewhere have been so obnoxious that I could not bring myself to root for their team. I know a couple of Steeler fans who are pleasant folks and we have a good-natured rivalry but they are the exceptions.

Kathy do you read this message board? I mean really read it? or do you simply post when it suits you best? If Steeler fans on this board are obnoxious how exactly would you label the Browns fans that start the sh.it slinging? The holier than thou bit is amusing and I'd never root for a division rival to win a Super Bowl unless the opposition was more hated. No one in Pittsburgh want's your "temporary fandom" and if you want a PG atmosphere around here start talking to some of your own before you attempt to chase the Steeler faithful away with your holy pitch forks and self righteous BS.

Pumpkin Eater

Homotron said:
Kathy do you read this message board? I mean really read it? or do you simply post when it suits you best? If Steeler fans on this board are obnoxious how exactly would you label the Browns fans that start the sh.it slinging? The holier than thou bit is amusing and I'd never root for a division rival to win a Super Bowl unless the opposition was more hated. No one in Pittsburgh want's your "temporary fandom" and if you want a PG atmosphere around here start talking to some of your own before you attempt to chase the Steeler faithful away with your holy pitch forks and self righteous BS.

This is a Browns board, doofus. Is it really that hard to get that through your thick skull? We don't care to make this a hospitable environment for you idiot Squeeler trolls.

Vagitron

@pumpkin-eater said:
This is a Browns board, doofus. Is it really that hard to get that through your thick skull? We don't care to make this a hospitable environment for you idiot Squeeler trolls.

Look dip sh.it. Follow along because it's obvious you haven't or at least can't. She rolls in here playing the "holy, holy, holy" card and labels the Steeler faithful as rude. My point which is clearly lost on you is that she selectively reads what she wants to read and ignores the rest. You're on of the biggest dip sh.its on this message board and just one of the 15 or so mouth breathers that posts regularly. If I cared about the childish BS I wouldn't post and I sling it back without much complaint. How much do I need to break it down? ABC? 123? Try reading. You can't roll up on the board and say "Man these Steeler fans are rude" when all that a majority of you do is post slanderous bs because you think it gets to people. Guess what dumb ass it doesn't and never has, it just fuels the fire and alleviates boredom.

calfoxwc

Homo - your last post proves "obnoxious".

We belong here. You don't. "obnoxious", is going where you don't belong, and trying to screw that place up.

And we were right all along. Your stinkin, cheapshot, overhyped sleazeball squeelers

can't win a superbowl without cheapshots and/or referees ruling in their favor.

Go "fan" that, and give your Ben Rapistbooger poster a hug, and leave our BROWNSBOARD to us ?

Vagitron

@calfoxwc said:
Homo - your last post proves "obnoxious".
We belong here. You don't. "obnoxious", is going where you don't belong, and trying to screw that place up.

And we were right all along. Your stinkin, cheapshot, overhyped sleazeball squeelers

can't win a superbowl without cheapshots and/or referees ruling in their favor.

Go "fan" that, and give your Ben Rapistbooger poster a hug, and leave our BROWNSBOARD to us ?

Once again not my point. My post was directed at Kathy specifically. The Holier than thou attitude is nauseating. I don't give a sh.it about your obnoxious and mindless rants. If I did I wouldn't post on the board. One last time, my POST WAS DIRECTED AT KATHY. It wasn't directed at you, pumpkin, zombo or any of the other mouth breathing morons. Got it this time? or are you once again to god damn dumb to comprehend the words exiting my internet mouth?

Vagitron

Zombo said:
Wow, this is great ... Homotron snapped!
Who would have thought sweet little ol' Kathy would put him over the edges?

I hope he doesn't have dog to kick around this week ... just imagine how sore his boyfriend's bum must be!

Zombo

lol I didn't snap and Kathy doesn't "bother me". Her short sighted and clouded BS is nauseating because it's unbearably stupid. I responded to her line of BS and then the mouth breather brigade tried making it about themselves. The argument then became a issue of reading comprehension and it's now abundantly clear a few can't read. Thanks for playing.

EDIT: I do have 4 dogs (2 Pit Bulls, a Doberman and a Chocolate lab) I'd much rather come here and kick you and the rest of the mouth breathers around. As far as the gay thing is concerned you guys really do need better material. I thought that line died in middle school no? do people actually still use that one?

Slurp and Burp

As I see it the Steelers are 6-2 in Super Bowl Games while the browns have never been good enough to get there. 45 years says a lot about what kind of a product your organizations puts on the field year after year.

The Browns will fall on their asses again next year and will continue to be the basement dweller of the AFC North and NFL in general.

I you could give out trophies for never being good enough to make it to a super bowl you'd have 45 of them!

Congrats on being THE BIGGEST LOSER in the NFL. You have a monopoly on losing- everyone agrees and so does Lombardi.

ClevelandFanForLife

@slurp-and-burp said:
As I see it the Steelers are 6-2 in Super Bowl Games while the browns have never been good enough to get there. 45 years says a lot about what kind of a product your organizations puts on the field year after year.
The Browns will fall on their asses again next year and will continue to be the basement dweller of the AFC North and NFL in general.

I you could give out trophies for never being good enough to make it to a super bowl you'd have 45 of them!

Congrats on being THE BIGGEST LOSER in the NFL. You have a monopoly on losing- everyone agrees and so does Lombardi.

Again, you read none of the posts above and just spew stuff out of your ass. You have no argument so you just rip on the Browns. I've had enough of this guy. Can we please ban him? There is nothing that separates him from any of the other trolls that we've banned. He sucks. Get rid of him.

The Gipper

@slurp-and-burp said:
As I see it the Steelers are 6-2 in Super Bowl Games while the browns have never been good enough to get there. 45 years says a lot about what kind of a product your organizations puts on the field year after year.
The Browns will fall on their asses again next year and will continue to be the basement dweller of the AFC North and NFL in general.

I you could give out trophies for never being good enough to make it to a super bowl you'd have 45 of them!

Congrats on being THE BIGGEST LOSER in the NFL. You have a monopoly on losing- everyone agrees and so does Lombardi.

They do give out trophies. For championships. We have 13 of them. Call us when you catch up.

Slurp and Burp

thirteen NFL championships? Ok gipper. you guys can sit back and wait until everyone else catches you?

Let's call the NFL and see how many the Browns actually get recognition for. 13? HA! that is a Browns fans fantasy!

1-800-Rodger-Goodell

good luck getting them to crown the browns with 13 championships.