What team has had the best QBs?
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I was a at Rotary lunch that Y.A. Tittle was speaking at. He was about 75 years old at the time. He talked about playing for the niners and getting traded during a pre-season game to NY. The thing that I thought was the funniest and most admirable thing was that he had nothing good to say about Otto Graham and Paul Brown. To see a guy who still had that much competitiveness and fire at that age after accomplishing what he had was inspiring. It also reinforced the theory that PB was a football genius.
I assume by that you mean that he wasn't being personal, just that he was essentially bitter over getting his ass beat by OG and PB time and again, right?
I assume by that you mean that he wasn't being personal, just that he was essentially bitter over getting his ass beat by OG and PB time and again, right?
No it wasn't personal. It came up while talking about how he called all his own plays on the field. Yes bitter about loosing to OG ad the Browns. He said he did'nt like what at the time was thought to be a gimmicky passing offense that PB and Otto ran and that PB called the plays and had them shuttled in to OG.
YA also talked about how he spent a brief time as a scout for the niners and after a visit to LA Tech and seeing Bradshaw told the niners that "oh yah, he can throw the ball a mile but boy is he dumb, he cant remember the plays"he recommended that the niners not look to draft him in '70.
Turned out he went 1st as we all know just imagine if he YA worked for the Steelers and made that reco to them. They may have passed on Bradshaw taken Phips at 1 leaving Bradshaw to the Browns at 3.
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Y.A. usually ended up like this after playing the Browns:
This is one of the most famous photos in NFL history.
Y.A. usually ended up like this after playing the Browns:
This is one of the most famous photos in NFL history.
That photograph was taken in Pittsburgh.
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Raiders: Darryl Lamonica, Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Marc Wilson, Rich Gannon
Kenny Stabler was the mans QB. The guy use to drink Jack Daniels during practice and kick ass on Sundays, he's worth three Tom Brady's.
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Raiders: Darryl Lamonica, Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Marc Wilson, Rich Gannon
Kenny Stabler was the mans QB. The guy use to drink Jack Daniels during practice and kick ass on Sundays, he's worth three Tom Brady's.
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Kenny Stabler was the mans QB. The guy use to drink Jack Daniels during practice and kick ass on Sundays, he's worth three Tom Brady's. NW220
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Joe Namath is one of the greatest qb's I ever watched. He stayed up all night on Sat nights, talking with three ladies at one time,
and still kicked ass on Sundays !
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It all depends on how many QB's you want to list. If it's a 2 man list per team then I go with 49ers. If it's a 3 man list I go with GB. and Any more then 3 I would say Dallas
It all depends on how many QB's you want to list. If it's a 2 man list per team then I go with 49ers. If it's a 3 man list I go with GB. and Any more then 3 I would say Dallas
If you are just going with 2, I think the Colts with Unitas and Manning have the best duo, combined, those two outshine the combo of Montana and Young by a wide margin in my opinion.
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Kenny Stabler was the mans QB. The guy use to drink Jack Daniels during practice and kick ass on Sundays, he's worth three Tom Brady's. NW220
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Joe Namath is one of the greatest qb's I ever watched. He stayed up all night on Sat nights, talking with three ladies at one time,
and still kicked ass on Sundays !
Kenny Stabler was the mans QB. The guy use to drink Jack Daniels during practice and kick ass on Sundays, he's worth three Tom Brady's. NW220
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Joe Namath is one of the greatest qb's I ever watched. He stayed up all night on Sat nights, talking with three ladies at one time,
and still kicked ass on Sundays !
Just talking?
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OK, well, let's take this thread in a slightly different direction: Who would you rate as the Top 5 or 10 QBs of all time.
Here is a list I have put together in alphabetical order that I think the primary candidates would probably come from, but certainly you are free to add to the list:
Troy Aikman
Sammy Baugh
Terry Bradshaw
Tom Brady
Len Dawson
John Elway
Brett Favre
Dan Fouts
Benny Friedman
Otto Graham
Arner Herber
Sonny Jurgenson
Jim Kelly
Sid Luckman
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Warren Moon
Joe Namath
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Fran Tarkenton
John Unitas
Steve Young
So, who is your Top 5?
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I dono about Manning and Unitas over Montana and Young...Id take the rings but the 49ers had better teams as opposed to say the Colts may had the better Talent at the QB position, it'd be a good agrument
I dono about Manning and Unitas over Montana and Young...Id take the rings but the 49ers had better teams as opposed to say the Colts may had the better Talent at the QB position, it'd be a good agrument
I don't know how old you are, but I saw all of them play. For me, Unitas and Montana are an even match, so it would come down to who I thought was better, Young or Manning, and my vote is for Manning for a fairly wide margin.
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I think my Top 5 QBs would be, in no order: Graham, Unitas, Montana, Elway, Manning
Next 5: Marino, Baugh, Kelly, Brady, Favre....though I would have liked to squeeze Staubach in there, maybe in place of Kelly.
Touch Choices.
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My top 5 all-time would be
1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Unitas
4. Manning
5. Marino
And if Dan Marino had won atleast 1 title he would be #2. And by the end of his career Manning will be #1 on my list.
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Wow surpirzed Manning is getting so much love hes great but he hasnt put up the great Post Season numbers yet,we will see
Id go top 5
1.Montana
2.Graham
3.Unitas
4.Brady
5.Manning
Also do think Marnio does deserve some love and had he won a SB would be ranked higher
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Most great QB's had GREAT teams to lead...
How would you like a QB who throws an interception for every TD???
Has a 51.9% completion percentage???
Has a QB rating of 70.9???
Most of us would be bitching pretty loudly, yelling for the backup QB...
In reality, those are the career numbers of Terry Bradshaw who has 4 super bowl rings and is in the hall of fame...Hmmmmm
Peace
T.Dawg
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Most great QB's had GREAT teams to lead...
How would you like a QB who throws an interception for every TD???
Has a 51.9% completion percentage???
Has a QB rating of 70.9???
Most of us would be bitching pretty loudly, yelling for the backup QB...
In reality, those are the career numbers of Terry Bradshaw who has 4 super bowl rings and is in the hall of fame...Hmmmmm
Peace
T.Dawg
Most great QB's had GREAT teams to lead...
How would you like a QB who throws an interception for every TD???
Has a 51.9% completion percentage???
Has a QB rating of 70.9???
Most of us would be bitching pretty loudly, yelling for the backup QB...
In reality, those are the career numbers of Terry Bradshaw who has 4 super bowl rings and is in the hall of fame...Hmmmmm
Peace
T.Dawg
This just goes to show you how we measure QBs so much differently than they used to. Those numbers you cite were probably among the best numbers of the QBs that played contemporaneously with Bradshaw.
If you look at the list of the current Top 20 in career "Passer Rating", you would that over half of the career leaders are currently active QBs.
Yes, today's QBs have better completion percentages and better ratings, but the old guard generally have far greater yards per pass or completion averages. They threw the ball further and took more risks, but also got intercepted more.
It is almost impossible to judge QBs from even the 70s by today's standards.
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