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  • @wrrebel said:

    He is very injury prone but if he could stay healthy is great..

    I wouldn't mind if we signed him to an incentive deal

    I would- the guy can't stay healthy. Never lasted an entire 16 games in his career, and has played a total of nine games in the last three seasons. We've entered the "Silly Season"- bring in the cripples and head cases to "help" us out.

    Sanders Career Stats

    @hoorta said:

    I would- the guy can't stay healthy. Never lasted an entire 16 games in his career, and has played a total of nine games in the last three seasons. We've entered the "Silly Season"- bring in the cripples and head cases to "help" us out.

    Sanders Career Stats

    I can see the PC now....Sanders talking about how happy he is to be a member of the Cleveland Browns while his crutches are propped up next to the podium.

    I'll pass.

  • if not already said, sanders was given every concievable break while in indy. management loved him and rewarded him with fat contracts and the best possible medical treament, his teammates respected,

    and the fans supported him (at least for awhile), but he just couldn't seem to pull it together. if sanders couldn't get it done in THIS environment, then i don't see him making a miraculous recovery and

    contributing on the field anywhere else. i say pass.......just efin' sayin'

  • Something no one is touching on this Sanders subject:

    Bob is greatly likely to be on juice and/or HGH. This just

    in: Being on those things to jack you up also make it

    more likely that you will experience significant injuries.

    That is why his injury string will not end, unless he goes

    off the stuff which means he will then be way too small

    to be a good player.

  • Something no one is touching on this Sanders subject:

    Bob is greatly likely to be on juice and/or HGH. This just

    in: Being on those things to jack you up also make it

    more likely that you will experience significant injuries.

    That is why his injury string will not end, unless he goes

    off the stuff which means he will then be way too small

    to be a good player.

    @silverbackattack said:

    Something no one is touching on this Sanders subject:

    Bob is greatly likely to be on juice and/or HGH. This just

    in: Being on those things to jack you up also make it

    more likely that you will experience significant injuries.

    That is why his injury string will not end, unless he goes

    off the stuff which means he will then be way too small

    to be a good player.

    Are you serious? You are very naive if you don't beleive a high percentage of players arent on HGH. HGH and a good level of test will actually keep you from breaking down for years, look at Bonds and other baseball players who thrived in there late 30's. Eventually it does lead to your body breaking down.

    Let me guess when you go to strip clubs, you think the stippers like you?

  • Lets be honest though, if they bring someone in they are going to want a FS that is good in coverage more than a run stopper. Sanders playing style is too close to Wards and there really isn't any reason to bring him to.

  • Signing Sanders would be something Savage would do...........no thanks. If we're gonna blow money in FA then we should blow it on DL or WR or LB. You don't use the BPA method in FA, you have to go by need. Safety is not killing us like other positions are.

  • @silverbackattack said:

    Something no one is touching on this Sanders subject:

    Bob is greatly likely to be on juice and/or HGH. This just

    in: Being on those things to jack you up also make it

    more likely that you will experience significant injuries.

    That is why his injury string will not end, unless he goes

    off the stuff which means he will then be way too small

    to be a good player.

    Are you serious? You are very naive if you don't beleive a high percentage of players arent on HGH. HGH and a good level of test will actually keep you from breaking down for years, look at Bonds and other baseball players who thrived in there late 30's. Eventually it does lead to your body breaking down.

    Let me guess when you go to strip clubs, you think the stippers like you?

    @wrrebel said:

    Are you serious? You are very naive if you don't beleive a high percentage of players arent on HGH. HGH and a good level of test will actually keep you from breaking down for years, look at Bonds and other baseball players who thrived in there late 30's. Eventually it does lead to your body breaking down.

    Let me guess when you go to strip clubs, you think the stippers like you?

    You are beyond ignorant. It's a matter of degrees. Sanders was on a mad

    level of shit - look at his natural size vs. what he ended up with in the NFL.

    There is a difference between a moderate level of HGH to prolong your

    career vs. being on so much juice that you gain 30 lbs of muscle on a

    5-8" frame. When you balloon your body up with that much unnatural

    muscle, things pop and break. That is what happened to him. And if

    he wasn't on the shit? He'd have never even made the league.

    You think everyone is on that much juice? You think Polamalu even

    touches any of that stuff? Not a chance.

    Let me guess: When you go to Browns games, you think they

    are a good team?

    😆

  • @wrrebel said:

    Are you serious? You are very naive if you don't beleive a high percentage of players arent on HGH. HGH and a good level of test will actually keep you from breaking down for years, look at Bonds and other baseball players who thrived in there late 30's. Eventually it does lead to your body breaking down.

    Let me guess when you go to strip clubs, you think the stippers like you?

    You are beyond ignorant. It's a matter of degrees. Sanders was on a mad

    level of shit - look at his natural size vs. what he ended up with in the NFL.

    There is a difference between a moderate level of HGH to prolong your

    career vs. being on so much juice that you gain 30 lbs of muscle on a

    5-8" frame. When you balloon your body up with that much unnatural

    muscle, things pop and break. That is what happened to him. And if

    he wasn't on the shit? He'd have never even made the league.

    You think everyone is on that much juice? You think Polamalu even

    touches any of that stuff? Not a chance.

    Let me guess: When you go to Browns games, you think they

    are a good team?

    😆

    @silverbackattack said:

    You are beyond ignorant. It's a matter of degrees. Sanders was on a mad

    level of shit - look at his natural size vs. what he ended up with in the NFL.

    There is a difference between a moderate level of HGH to prolong your

    career vs. being on so much juice that you gain 30 lbs of muscle on a

    5-8" frame. When you balloon your body up with that much unnatural

    muscle, things pop and break. That is what happened to him. And if

    he wasn't on the shit? He'd have never even made the league.

    You think everyone is on that much juice? You think Polamalu even

    touches any of that stuff? Not a chance.

    Let me guess: When you go to Browns games, you think they

    are a good team?

    😆

    30lbs of mucle where did you come up with that? So your saying he weighed a buck seventy and change coming outa college.

    I suppose jeff reed never touched the stuff. The guy had more acne than a 15 year old boy.

    Harrison, yeah.

    I remember when heinz ward was a rookie he was a bean pole!

    Oh the irony in a steeler fan pointing the finger on performance enhancing drugs. Gotta love it!

  • @silverbackattack said:

    You are beyond ignorant. It's a matter of degrees. Sanders was on a mad

    level of shit - look at his natural size vs. what he ended up with in the NFL.

    There is a difference between a moderate level of HGH to prolong your

    career vs. being on so much juice that you gain 30 lbs of muscle on a

    5-8" frame. When you balloon your body up with that much unnatural

    muscle, things pop and break. That is what happened to him. And if

    he wasn't on the shit? He'd have never even made the league.

    You think everyone is on that much juice? You think Polamalu even

    touches any of that stuff? Not a chance.

    Let me guess: When you go to Browns games, you think they

    are a good team?

    😆

    30lbs of mucle where did you come up with that? So your saying he weighed a buck seventy and change coming outa college.

    I suppose jeff reed never touched the stuff. The guy had more acne than a 15 year old boy.

    Harrison, yeah.

    I remember when heinz ward was a rookie he was a bean pole!

    Oh the irony in a steeler fan pointing the finger on performance enhancing drugs. Gotta love it!

    @erie-dawg said:

    30lbs of mucle where did you come up with that? So your saying he weighed a buck seventy and change coming outa college.

    I suppose jeff reed never touched the stuff. The guy had more acne than a 15 year old boy.

    Harrison, yeah.

    I remember when heinz ward was a rookie he was a bean pole!

    Oh the irony in a steeler fan pointing the finger on performance enhancing drugs. Gotta love it!

    Kickers on HGH? I've heard and read it all now. If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself. James Harrison is also a gym warrior and a mean dude on the field. I'd love for someone to back up the HGH claims because all of it is unwarranted. When you have guys getting flagged for taking certain diet pills on the regular you'd think if guys on the Steelers were in fact using some kind of steroid/anabolic they would have been suspended like the rest of the players caught around the league. The HGH argument with the Steelers really needs to be put to rest. You've quickly become one of the most moronic and polarizing posters on this message board. Does anything intelligent ever exit your mouth? And even if Sanders is clean he's STILL not worth a roster spot. The Colts cut the guy for a reason. You'd think as a Cleveland fan you'd want your team to build through the draft. The teams that win do exactly that and almost never go after the high profile free agents. In this case Sanders is high profile in name only and a injury train wreck. Sign em and set your team back. TJ Ward is too much like Sanders. They don't need to heavy hitters in the secondary. You need a heavy and a ball hawk.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    30lbs of mucle where did you come up with that? So your saying he weighed a buck seventy and change coming outa college.

    I suppose jeff reed never touched the stuff. The guy had more acne than a 15 year old boy.

    Harrison, yeah.

    I remember when heinz ward was a rookie he was a bean pole!

    Oh the irony in a steeler fan pointing the finger on performance enhancing drugs. Gotta love it!

    Kickers on HGH? I've heard and read it all now. If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself. James Harrison is also a gym warrior and a mean dude on the field. I'd love for someone to back up the HGH claims because all of it is unwarranted. When you have guys getting flagged for taking certain diet pills on the regular you'd think if guys on the Steelers were in fact using some kind of steroid/anabolic they would have been suspended like the rest of the players caught around the league. The HGH argument with the Steelers really needs to be put to rest. You've quickly become one of the most moronic and polarizing posters on this message board. Does anything intelligent ever exit your mouth? And even if Sanders is clean he's STILL not worth a roster spot. The Colts cut the guy for a reason. You'd think as a Cleveland fan you'd want your team to build through the draft. The teams that win do exactly that and almost never go after the high profile free agents. In this case Sanders is high profile in name only and a injury train wreck. Sign em and set your team back. TJ Ward is too much like Sanders. They don't need to heavy hitters in the secondary. You need a heavy and a ball hawk.

    Homotron said:

    Kickers on HGH? I've heard and read it all now. If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself. James Harrison is also a gym warrior and a mean dude on the field. I'd love for someone to back up the HGH claims because all of it is unwarranted. When you have guys getting flagged for taking certain diet pills on the regular you'd think if guys on the Steelers were in fact using some kind of steroid/anabolic they would have been suspended like the rest of the players caught around the league. The HGH argument with the Steelers really needs to be put to rest. You've quickly become one of the most moronic and polarizing posters on this message board. Does anything intelligent ever exit your mouth? And even if Sanders is clean he's STILL not worth a roster spot. The Colts cut the guy for a reason. You'd think as a Cleveland fan you'd want your team to build through the draft. The teams that win do exactly that and almost never go after the high profile free agents. In this case Sanders is high profile in name only and a injury train wreck. Sign em and set your team back. TJ Ward is too much like Sanders. They don't need to heavy hitters in the secondary. You need a heavy and a ball hawk.

    I'm not reading this because it's probably piss and black biased and stupid to boot.

    But you implying that the reason he gets injured so much is because of supposed use of HGH is ridiculous.

    HGH is not only commonly used, but also almost recommended for any person coming off a serious injury or surgery. It's reactions take place on the cellular level, and during recovery HGH has been found to assist your immune system in it's recovery process. It is quickly becoming the premier recovery tool as it assists your body in building up those tissue cells which have been damaged much faster than any other type of process.

    Furthermore, the NFL now grants players to take HGH if they meet a certain criteria. Although NFL spokesman Greg Aiello won't release the names of those players on the list, it's believed that it's roughly already 10% of the players and growing steadily. Studies performed by the UCLA Brain Injury Research center have also shown that many of those who experienced traumatic brain injury (basically everyone in the NFL, if you think about it) go on to have deficiencies in hormones secreted by your pituitary gland, which can lead to excessive moodiness, energy level, metabolic irregularities and a laundry list of other problems, even renal failure. The recommended path of treatment for these deficiencies- HGH. It's being prescribed more and more to retiring players, and it's only a matter of time before it becomes commonplace in the NFL.

    For the record, I've never taken it. But I think I may start, I just convinced myself.

    Also, you're a moron.

  • Homotron said:

    Kickers on HGH? I've heard and read it all now. If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself. James Harrison is also a gym warrior and a mean dude on the field. I'd love for someone to back up the HGH claims because all of it is unwarranted. When you have guys getting flagged for taking certain diet pills on the regular you'd think if guys on the Steelers were in fact using some kind of steroid/anabolic they would have been suspended like the rest of the players caught around the league. The HGH argument with the Steelers really needs to be put to rest. You've quickly become one of the most moronic and polarizing posters on this message board. Does anything intelligent ever exit your mouth? And even if Sanders is clean he's STILL not worth a roster spot. The Colts cut the guy for a reason. You'd think as a Cleveland fan you'd want your team to build through the draft. The teams that win do exactly that and almost never go after the high profile free agents. In this case Sanders is high profile in name only and a injury train wreck. Sign em and set your team back. TJ Ward is too much like Sanders. They don't need to heavy hitters in the secondary. You need a heavy and a ball hawk.

    I'm not reading this because it's probably piss and black biased and stupid to boot.

    But you implying that the reason he gets injured so much is because of supposed use of HGH is ridiculous.

    HGH is not only commonly used, but also almost recommended for any person coming off a serious injury or surgery. It's reactions take place on the cellular level, and during recovery HGH has been found to assist your immune system in it's recovery process. It is quickly becoming the premier recovery tool as it assists your body in building up those tissue cells which have been damaged much faster than any other type of process.

    Furthermore, the NFL now grants players to take HGH if they meet a certain criteria. Although NFL spokesman Greg Aiello won't release the names of those players on the list, it's believed that it's roughly already 10% of the players and growing steadily. Studies performed by the UCLA Brain Injury Research center have also shown that many of those who experienced traumatic brain injury (basically everyone in the NFL, if you think about it) go on to have deficiencies in hormones secreted by your pituitary gland, which can lead to excessive moodiness, energy level, metabolic irregularities and a laundry list of other problems, even renal failure. The recommended path of treatment for these deficiencies- HGH. It's being prescribed more and more to retiring players, and it's only a matter of time before it becomes commonplace in the NFL.

    For the record, I've never taken it. But I think I may start, I just convinced myself.

    Also, you're a moron.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm not reading this because it's probably piss and black biased and stupid to boot.

    But you implying that the reason he gets injured so much is because of supposed use of HGH is ridiculous.

    HGH is not only commonly used, but also almost recommended for any person coming off a serious injury or surgery. It's reactions take place on the cellular level, and during recovery HGH has been found to assist your immune system in it's recovery process.

    Furthermore, the NFL now grants players to take HGH if they meet a certain criteria. Although NFL spokesman Greg Aiello won't release the names of those players on the list, it's believed that it's roughly already 10% of the players and growing steadily. Studies performed by the UCLA Brain Injury Research center have also shown that many of those who experienced traumatic brain injury (basically everyone in the NFL, if you think about it) go on to have deficiencies in hormones secreted by your pituitary gland, which can lead to excessive moodiness, energy level, metabolic irregularities and a laundry list of other problems, even renal failure. The recommended path of treatment for these deficiencies- HGH. It's being prescribed more and more to retiring players, and it's only a matter of time before it becomes commonplace in the NFL.

    For the record, I've never taken it. But I think I may start, I just convinced myself.

    Also, you're a moron.

    You may want to read it because I said absolutely NOTHING of the sort. Now who's the xxxxing moron? Some of you are so dumb it hurts and it brings down the guys that do actually have a brain.

  • No what is dumb is not realizing how many nfl players are using growth hormone. I can garentee you its a very high percentage. There isn't a test currently in the nfl for it. if you think james harrison doesn't stick him self with a couple iu's of growth in the stomach once a day your mistaken. I'm not saying just steelers take it but it is widely used in the nfl.

    Shit andy petite admitted using it. So to say a kicker wouldn't use it is foolish.

    Watch the documentary bigger, stronger faster. A lot of these guys are un naturally big and fast, sorry that isn't genetics..

    I would take hgh all day long!

  • No what is dumb is not realizing how many nfl players are using growth hormone. I can garentee you its a very high percentage. There isn't a test currently in the nfl for it. if you think james harrison doesn't stick him self with a couple iu's of growth in the stomach once a day your mistaken. I'm not saying just steelers take it but it is widely used in the nfl.

    Shit andy petite admitted using it. So to say a kicker wouldn't use it is foolish.

    Watch the documentary bigger, stronger faster. A lot of these guys are un naturally big and fast, sorry that isn't genetics..

    I would take hgh all day long!

    @wrrebel said:

    No what is dumb is not realizing how many nfl players are using growth hormone. I can garentee you its a very high percentage. There isn't a test currently in the nfl for it. if you think james harrison doesn't stick him self with a couple iu's of growth in the stomach once a day your mistaken. I'm not saying just steelers take it but it is widely used in the nfl.

    Shit andy petite admitted using it. So to say a kicker wouldn't use it is foolish.

    Watch the documentary bigger, stronger faster. A lot of these guys are un naturally big and fast, sorry that isn't genetics..

    I would take hgh all day long!

    I just don't buy in to it. If everyone was using some form of HGH the league would be all over it. Look how many guys have recently been busted for using insignificant BS. I don't believe a vast majority of the league is using HGH but maybe I'm naive. I can't imagine the league cracking down on some and not cracking down on others. They went after Cushing in a banner year. What's to stop them from going after other guys? and why is Harrison a poster child for this sort of thing? Some guys hit the weight room hard, especially guys with a chip on their shoulder. HGH isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be and believe me I know of a few guys that cycle. It certainly has it's positive effects but also has plenty of negatives and long term use proves to be catastrophic on your body. Petite if that's how you spell his name is a HELL of a lot different than a NFL kicker. No comparison in my opinion and I wouldn't touch HGH. It destroys your body long term. What happened to just working hard in the gym? HGH is the easy way out.

  • @wrrebel said:

    No what is dumb is not realizing how many nfl players are using growth hormone. I can garentee you its a very high percentage. There isn't a test currently in the nfl for it. if you think james harrison doesn't stick him self with a couple iu's of growth in the stomach once a day your mistaken. I'm not saying just steelers take it but it is widely used in the nfl.

    Shit andy petite admitted using it. So to say a kicker wouldn't use it is foolish.

    Watch the documentary bigger, stronger faster. A lot of these guys are un naturally big and fast, sorry that isn't genetics..

    I would take hgh all day long!

    I just don't buy in to it. If everyone was using some form of HGH the league would be all over it. Look how many guys have recently been busted for using insignificant BS. I don't believe a vast majority of the league is using HGH but maybe I'm naive. I can't imagine the league cracking down on some and not cracking down on others. They went after Cushing in a banner year. What's to stop them from going after other guys? and why is Harrison a poster child for this sort of thing? Some guys hit the weight room hard, especially guys with a chip on their shoulder. HGH isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be and believe me I know of a few guys that cycle. It certainly has it's positive effects but also has plenty of negatives and long term use proves to be catastrophic on your body. Petite if that's how you spell his name is a HELL of a lot different than a NFL kicker. No comparison in my opinion and I wouldn't touch HGH. It destroys your body long term. What happened to just working hard in the gym? HGH is the easy way out.

    Homotron said:

    I just don't buy in to it. If everyone was using some form of HGH the league would be all over it. Look how many guys have recently been busted for using insignificant BS. I don't believe a vast majority of the league is using HGH but maybe I'm naive. I can't imagine the league cracking down on some and not cracking down on others. They went after Cushing in a banner year. What's to stop them from going after other guys? and why is Harrison a poster child for this sort of thing? Some guys hit the weight room hard, especially guys with a chip on their shoulder. HGH isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be and believe me I know of a few guys that cycle. It certainly has it's positive effects but also has plenty of negatives and long term use proves to be catastrophic on your body. Petite if that's how you spell his name is a HELL of a lot different than a NFL kicker. No comparison in my opinion and I wouldn't touch HGH. It destroys your body long term. What happened to just working hard in the gym? HGH is the easy way out.

    Tron, cushing supsension was for a band substance that they test for. You do know currently there is not test foor hgh? Also guys can stack small amounts of test with it and not get caught. The body produces a certain amount of test natually. So if its in low doses its virtually impossible to test for. Baseball turned a blind eye to steroids for a decade, football had done it for 5 decades. Believe me if you can take a high dosage of growth you will lose body fat and gain muscle. Your face may end up looking like clay matthews..

    I want the stuff hillis is taking!

    J

  • No on Sanders...I like the motor and the talent...but I just dont see him staying healthy all of sudden...invest the money in youth...We'll be better off down the road.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm not reading this because it's probably piss and black biased and stupid to boot.

    But you implying that the reason he gets injured so much is because of supposed use of HGH is ridiculous.

    HGH is not only commonly used, but also almost recommended for any person coming off a serious injury or surgery. It's reactions take place on the cellular level, and during recovery HGH has been found to assist your immune system in it's recovery process.

    Furthermore, the NFL now grants players to take HGH if they meet a certain criteria. Although NFL spokesman Greg Aiello won't release the names of those players on the list, it's believed that it's roughly already 10% of the players and growing steadily. Studies performed by the UCLA Brain Injury Research center have also shown that many of those who experienced traumatic brain injury (basically everyone in the NFL, if you think about it) go on to have deficiencies in hormones secreted by your pituitary gland, which can lead to excessive moodiness, energy level, metabolic irregularities and a laundry list of other problems, even renal failure. The recommended path of treatment for these deficiencies- HGH. It's being prescribed more and more to retiring players, and it's only a matter of time before it becomes commonplace in the NFL.

    For the record, I've never taken it. But I think I may start, I just convinced myself.

    Also, you're a moron.

    You may want to read it because I said absolutely NOTHING of the sort. Now who's the xxxxing moron? Some of you are so dumb it hurts and it brings down the guys that do actually have a brain.

    Homotron said:

    You may want to read it because I said absolutely NOTHING of the sort. Now who's the xxxxing moron? Some of you are so dumb it hurts and it brings down the guys that do actually have a brain.

    I quoted the wrong person, my bad.

    I lump all of you Steeler fans together anyway. You all have mainly the same opinion, and in most cases it's dumb and completely homeristic. I'm not saying some Browns fans on here aren't the same way, but they at least have credibility, with not being a bandwagoner and all.

    Either way, your brethren is a complete joke.

  • @wrrebel said:

    Ur Retarded.. some one will sign him, and if he stays healthy which is a big if he will be a steal. If he doesn't stay healthy as long as u don't sign him to a garenteed money then oh well.

    You guys signed flozell adams when a lot of teams didn't want to sign some one who is old and injured.

    That worked out well..

    You don't sign him giving him a multi year deal or even expecting to get much out of him. I guess troy palumalo is done to since he has been hurt the last couple of years.

    We signed Flozell Adams to play RT, not LT where he initially wanted to play. He didn't get the attention initially because we was trying out to play LT. After he realized he wasn't going to get the offers to play LT he switched and signed with us. I'd say that's a vastly different scenario. Bob Sanders is also different than Troy. Troy has certainly missed his fair share of games but Sanders seems to get injured on the regular and if he were worth keeping around the Colts would have retained him. I also doubt you'll be able to sign him to a incentive laden deal and the only way he's even worth looking at is if he signs a deal of that nature. Polamalu's injuries haven't been as severe and Bob Sanders is a little undersized all things considered. I wouldn't touch him for anything but a contract littered with specific incentives. I don't know why anyone would want another top tier team's cast off. They are being released for a reason whether it be a ridiculous contract or injury concerns and I don't know that the Browns are desperate for a safety. Draft one, it's what the good teams do.

    Homotron said:

    We signed Flozell Adams to play RT, not LT where he initially wanted to play. He didn't get the attention initially because we was trying out to play LT. After he realized he wasn't going to get the offers to play LT he switched and signed with us. I'd say that's a vastly different scenario. Bob Sanders is also different than Troy. Troy has certainly missed his fair share of games but Sanders seems to get injured on the regular and if he were worth keeping around the Colts would have retained him. I also doubt you'll be able to sign him to a incentive laden deal and the only way he's even worth looking at is if he signs a deal of that nature.

    If he is as bad a risk as you say, why would ANYONE sign him for other than an incentive laden deal? You talk out of both sides of your mouth: first you seem to assume that someone is going to take him on under a full compensatory contract.

    Then you say that anyone would be a fool to do so. So, if someone is going to offer him an incentive laden contract, why not the Browns as much as anyone else? Why not the Steelers, unless he plays the same position a Froggygirlie. Other than him, he would be better than anyone else you have back there. IF healthy, he would be better probably than Abe Elam. If not, and he has the incentive laden deal, then no harm, no foul. Go back to using Abe. At any event he would be better than having Dave Sorensen or whoever we have as a backup at that position.

    Polamalu's injuries haven't been as severe and Bob Sanders is a little undersized all things considered. I wouldn't touch him for anything but a contract littered with specific incentives.

    Again, I think we all agree that those would be the only terms by which he would be picked up.

    I don't know why anyone would want another top tier team's cast off.

    Because you may wish to take the chance that the guy will be healthy and regain his form? It has happened innumerable times in the past

    They are being released for a reason whether it be a ridiculous contract or injury concerns and I don't know that the Browns are desperate for a safety. Draft one, it's what the good teams do.

    The Browns did that with Ward. Now they have other priorities to deal with in the draft, like DLine and LB and WR. If they can get a quality Strong Safety in free agency that is just another way to build your roster.

  • Exactly Gip!

    and just so everyone knows he is in Jaxville right now. Some one will sign him and he will be a steal if healthy..

  • @erie-dawg said:

    30lbs of mucle where did you come up with that? So your saying he weighed a buck seventy and change coming outa college.

    I suppose jeff reed never touched the stuff. The guy had more acne than a 15 year old boy.

    Harrison, yeah.

    I remember when heinz ward was a rookie he was a bean pole!

    Oh the irony in a steeler fan pointing the finger on performance enhancing drugs. Gotta love it!

    Kickers on HGH? I've heard and read it all now. If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself. James Harrison is also a gym warrior and a mean dude on the field. I'd love for someone to back up the HGH claims because all of it is unwarranted. When you have guys getting flagged for taking certain diet pills on the regular you'd think if guys on the Steelers were in fact using some kind of steroid/anabolic they would have been suspended like the rest of the players caught around the league. The HGH argument with the Steelers really needs to be put to rest. You've quickly become one of the most moronic and polarizing posters on this message board. Does anything intelligent ever exit your mouth? And even if Sanders is clean he's STILL not worth a roster spot. The Colts cut the guy for a reason. You'd think as a Cleveland fan you'd want your team to build through the draft. The teams that win do exactly that and almost never go after the high profile free agents. In this case Sanders is high profile in name only and a injury train wreck. Sign em and set your team back. TJ Ward is too much like Sanders. They don't need to heavy hitters in the secondary. You need a heavy and a ball hawk.

    Homotron said:

    If Jeff Read had a bunch of acne it's because he was a dirt ball that drank a lot and didn't really take care of himself.

    That's what steeler nation is all about!

    Beat your wife /sister.

    Get drunk.

    And rape some women.

  • Hey Gip if any team would pay him a full compensatory contract it's the Cleveland Browns. They signed Jake Delhomme and he was a bum 3 seasons ago. Bob Sanders could be a great back up, possible starter if he can stay healthy but it depends on what sort of contract he commands in free agency. Great teams don't build through free agency. If the Steelers signed him I wouldn't be upset about it because I know it would be incentive laden and he'd be a back up considering his injuries.