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  • nickersN nickers

    @brownsbacker said:

    he just misunderstood what you said I think, made sense to me

    thats because you have a Stooler fan who cant keep up and when he doesnt agree or understand it...he spins things so it fits and corresponds to his world..He likes to forget hes on enemy territory here and just by his mere associtaion with all things black and urine he thinks somehow hes exempt of any or all critcism. But he forgets...he has to play by our rules...not his. Hes the guest here. He claims hes here to "get Information" and follow the AFCN wich I call BS...He claims were all here just to start threads on the Stoolers but he cant help but feel compelled to comment on every lil negative thing he reads and in his mind its somehow unjust..Lest what should he expect here?.. not to get critisized?...Whats even more funny is to watch him chase things that I or someone might throw out...you know why we doit?...Because we know he;s a sucker and he'll jump on it and to us...its just hilariouse watching him make a total ass of himself just becaus he needs to be right all of the time.

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    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    thats because you have a Stooler fan who cant keep up and when he doesnt agree or understand it...he spins things so it fits and corresponds to his world..He likes to forget hes on enemy territory here and just by his mere associtaion with all things black and urine he thinks somehow hes exempt of any or all critcism. But he forgets...he has to play by our rules...not his. Hes the guest here. He claims hes here to "get Information" and follow the AFCN wich I call BS...He claims were all here just to start threads on the Stoolers but he cant help but feel compelled to comment on every lil negative thing he reads and in his mind its somehow unjust..Lest what should he expect here?.. not to get critisized?...Whats even more funny is to watch him chase things that I or someone might throw out...you know why we doit?...Because we know he;s a sucker and he'll jump on it and to us...its just hilariouse watching him make a total ass of himself just becaus he needs to be right all of the time.

    lol. I'd hate to break it to you Capt. Can't Spell but

    1. You aren't that clever.

    2. I'm not that gullible.

    3. Idiot clearly misunderstood my post as already pointed out.

    Who's dancing again?

    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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      Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      Homo, wtf do you mean when you say half the crap you do?

      follow along on what? you talk sideways, retract statements and say you meant it a whole different way than the first time. You backed one statement up with one 2 year old article.

      But you said eli is not that good.

      he is a choke artist and a runt.

      then a tactician.

      Now he puts up ridiculous numbers?

      But he is no Peyton Manning?

      Seriously! That's not even close to the same!

      That is just the opposite of what you said.

      There are 30- 31 starting qb's that aren't a Peyton M. And a ton that can't even hold his jock. That's not a shock to anyone who waches football it's a fact.

      Hell you take away the steelers D and make the big fag win games with his arm like Peyton, shitsburgh is a .500 club at best.

      Im not sure if you're a woman or not, most chicks talk football like you.

      I guess if you get lost easy when you drive you just might wanna do a gender check

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        Homo, wtf do you mean when you say half the crap you do?

        follow along on what? you talk sideways, retract statements and say you meant it a whole different way than the first time. You backed one statement up with one 2 year old article.

        But you said eli is not that good.

        he is a choke artist and a runt.

        then a tactician.

        Now he puts up ridiculous numbers?

        But he is no Peyton Manning?

        Seriously! That's not even close to the same!

        That is just the opposite of what you said.

        There are 30- 31 starting qb's that aren't a Peyton M. And a ton that can't even hold his jock. That's not a shock to anyone who waches football it's a fact.

        Hell you take away the steelers D and make the big fag win games with his arm like Peyton, shitsburgh is a .500 club at best.

        Im not sure if you're a woman or not, most chicks talk football like you.

        I guess if you get lost easy when you drive you just might wanna do a gender check

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        VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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        @erie-dawg said:

        Homo, wtf do you mean when you say half the crap you do?

        follow along on what? you talk sideways, retract statements and say you meant it a whole different way than the first time. You backed one statement up with one 2 year old article.

        But you said eli is not that good.

        he is a choke artist and a runt.

        then a tactician.

        Now he puts up ridiculous numbers?

        But he is no Peyton Manning?

        Seriously! That's not even close to the same!

        That is just the opposite of what you said.

        There are 30- 31 starting qb's that aren't a Peyton M. And a ton that can't even hold his jock. That's not a shock to anyone who waches football it's a fact.

        Hell you take away the steelers D and make the big fag win games with his arm like Peyton, shitsburgh is a .500 club at best.

        Im not sure if you're a woman or not, most chicks talk football like you.

        I guess if you get lost easy when you drive you just might wanna do a gender check

        lol you can't be this dumb can you? Someone that understood my first post please respond. It really wasn't that hard to follow. Do you need bullet points?

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          @nickers said:

          thats because you have a Stooler fan who cant keep up and when he doesnt agree or understand it...he spins things so it fits and corresponds to his world..He likes to forget hes on enemy territory here and just by his mere associtaion with all things black and urine he thinks somehow hes exempt of any or all critcism. But he forgets...he has to play by our rules...not his. Hes the guest here. He claims hes here to "get Information" and follow the AFCN wich I call BS...He claims were all here just to start threads on the Stoolers but he cant help but feel compelled to comment on every lil negative thing he reads and in his mind its somehow unjust..Lest what should he expect here?.. not to get critisized?...Whats even more funny is to watch him chase things that I or someone might throw out...you know why we doit?...Because we know he;s a sucker and he'll jump on it and to us...its just hilariouse watching him make a total ass of himself just becaus he needs to be right all of the time.

          lol. I'd hate to break it to you Capt. Can't Spell but

          1. You aren't that clever.

          2. I'm not that gullible.

          3. Idiot clearly misunderstood my post as already pointed out.

          Who's dancing again?

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          Homotron said:

          lol. I'd hate to break it to you Capt. Can't Spell but

          1. You aren't that clever.

          2. I'm not that gullible.

          3. Idiot clearly misunderstood my post as already pointed out.

          Who's dancing again?

          1. Im not trying to be clever but, you are and failing miserably at it.

          2. Yes,you are that guillible.

          3. no one misunderstood anything but you but,whatver..

          I dont dance My knees are shot...

          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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            Homotron said:

            lol. I'd hate to break it to you Capt. Can't Spell but

            1. You aren't that clever.

            2. I'm not that gullible.

            3. Idiot clearly misunderstood my post as already pointed out.

            Who's dancing again?

            1. Im not trying to be clever but, you are and failing miserably at it.

            2. Yes,you are that guillible.

            3. no one misunderstood anything but you but,whatver..

            I dont dance My knees are shot...

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            VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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            @nickers said:

            1. Im not trying to be clever but, you are and failing miserably at it.

            2. Yes,you are that guillible.

            3. no one misunderstood anything but you but,whatver..

            I dont dance My knees are shot...

            Is this a keep up the "idiot charade" or what? My initial post was not confusing. I mentioned Eli and clearly transitioned to Peyton. Erie Dawg still couldn't grasp the concept and now twice tried to make a point where a point couldn't be made. He clearly misunderstood my initial post and continues to lack the ability to comprehend that same post. Quit trying to be cute Nickers. You sir fail miserably at it.

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              @nickers said:

              1. Im not trying to be clever but, you are and failing miserably at it.

              2. Yes,you are that guillible.

              3. no one misunderstood anything but you but,whatver..

              I dont dance My knees are shot...

              Is this a keep up the "idiot charade" or what? My initial post was not confusing. I mentioned Eli and clearly transitioned to Peyton. Erie Dawg still couldn't grasp the concept and now twice tried to make a point where a point couldn't be made. He clearly misunderstood my initial post and continues to lack the ability to comprehend that same post. Quit trying to be cute Nickers. You sir fail miserably at it.

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              Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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              Homotron said:

              Is this a keep up the "idiot charade" or what? My initial post was not confusing. I mentioned Eli and clearly transitioned to Peyton. Erie Dawg still couldn't grasp the concept and now twice tried to make a point where a point couldn't be made. He clearly misunderstood my initial post and continues to lack the ability to comprehend that same post. Quit trying to be cute Nickers. You sir fail miserably at it.

              Ok we get it your scouting abilities are bar none and you have an impeccable eye for talent.

              And we all now know that Eli is not as good as Peyton. Brilliant!

              Keep up the good work, I see a coaching job in your future.

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              • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg

                Homotron said:

                Is this a keep up the "idiot charade" or what? My initial post was not confusing. I mentioned Eli and clearly transitioned to Peyton. Erie Dawg still couldn't grasp the concept and now twice tried to make a point where a point couldn't be made. He clearly misunderstood my initial post and continues to lack the ability to comprehend that same post. Quit trying to be cute Nickers. You sir fail miserably at it.

                Ok we get it your scouting abilities are bar none and you have an impeccable eye for talent.

                And we all now know that Eli is not as good as Peyton. Brilliant!

                Keep up the good work, I see a coaching job in your future.

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                VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                @erie-dawg said:

                Ok we get it your scouting abilities are bar none and you have an impeccable eye for talent.

                And we all now know that Eli is not as good as Peyton. Brilliant!

                Keep up the good work, I see a coaching job in your future.

                Hey I wasn't the one that COMPLETELY missed the point and made two posts after the fact completely missing the point twice more. It was a pretty glaring display of your lack of reading comprehension. I also don't believe Eli Manning is all that good and will always be overshadowed by is Brother and father. I'll be surprised if he gets in to the Hall and if he does it won't be first ballot.

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                  Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  Like I said thanks for pointing out the obvious....however you wana word it, LOL.

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                    Like I said thanks for pointing out the obvious....however you wana word it, LOL.

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                    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                    @erie-dawg said:

                    Like I said thanks for pointing out the obvious....however you wana word it, LOL.

                    The obviously that completely slipped your mind, not once but twice lol. Genius.

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                      @erie-dawg said:

                      Like I said thanks for pointing out the obvious....however you wana word it, LOL.

                      The obviously that completely slipped your mind, not once but twice lol. Genius.

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                      Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                      Homotron said:

                      The obviously that completely slipped your mind, not once but twice lol. Genius.

                      Yeah until you told me and the rest of the forum we had no idea Peyton was so good.

                      Since you know so much is it true he is going to be the highest paid qb?

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                        Homotron said:

                        The obviously that completely slipped your mind, not once but twice lol. Genius.

                        Yeah until you told me and the rest of the forum we had no idea Peyton was so good.

                        Since you know so much is it true he is going to be the highest paid qb?

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                        VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                        @erie-dawg said:

                        Yeah until you told me and the rest of the forum we had no idea Peyton was so good.

                        Since you know so much is it true he is going to be the highest paid qb?

                        What are you talking about? Peyton is a tactician but he's also a choke artist that throws his teammates under the bus when things go wrong. I believe I said his brother (Peyton) is a hall of fame lock because of his ridiculous regular season stats and he did finally get a ring. However he's far from a lock in the playoffs. You really do get lost in these conversations don't you?

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                          @erie-dawg said:

                          Yeah until you told me and the rest of the forum we had no idea Peyton was so good.

                          Since you know so much is it true he is going to be the highest paid qb?

                          What are you talking about? Peyton is a tactician but he's also a choke artist that throws his teammates under the bus when things go wrong. I believe I said his brother (Peyton) is a hall of fame lock because of his ridiculous regular season stats and he did finally get a ring. However he's far from a lock in the playoffs. You really do get lost in these conversations don't you?

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                          Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                          Homotron said:

                          What are you talking about? Peyton is a tactician but he's also a choke artist that throws his teammates under the bus when things go wrong. I believe I said his brother is a hall of fame lock because of his ridiculous regular season stats and he did finally get a ring. However he's far from a lock in the playoffs. You really do get lost in these conversations don't you?

                          LOL

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                            Homotron said:

                            What are you talking about? Peyton is a tactician but he's also a choke artist that throws his teammates under the bus when things go wrong. I believe I said his brother is a hall of fame lock because of his ridiculous regular season stats and he did finally get a ring. However he's far from a lock in the playoffs. You really do get lost in these conversations don't you?

                            LOL

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                            VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                            @erie-dawg said:

                            LOL

                            I know it's hard for you to grasp so I'll break it down.

                            1. Eli was mentioned as a "maybe" and I suggested that he likely isn't unless he adds a few more Super Bowls. I really don't think he's all that good.

                            2. I then transitioned to his brother Peyton and said he'll get in because of his ridiculous regular season stats and finally getting the one Super Bowl.

                            3. Apparently you weren't capable of deducing the difference so you lumped it all together like I intentionally contradicted myself. All of which points directly to your complete lack of reading comprehension. You didn't do very well on your SAT, ACT did you?

                            I did edit the post you quoted. I posted from my droid and didn't specify (Peyton) for the last portion.

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                              @erie-dawg said:

                              LOL

                              I know it's hard for you to grasp so I'll break it down.

                              1. Eli was mentioned as a "maybe" and I suggested that he likely isn't unless he adds a few more Super Bowls. I really don't think he's all that good.

                              2. I then transitioned to his brother Peyton and said he'll get in because of his ridiculous regular season stats and finally getting the one Super Bowl.

                              3. Apparently you weren't capable of deducing the difference so you lumped it all together like I intentionally contradicted myself. All of which points directly to your complete lack of reading comprehension. You didn't do very well on your SAT, ACT did you?

                              I did edit the post you quoted. I posted from my droid and didn't specify (Peyton) for the last portion.

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                              Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                              Homotron said:

                              I know it's hard for you to grasp so I'll break it down.

                              1. Eli was mentioned as a "maybe" and I suggested that he likely isn't unless he adds a few more Super Bowls. I really don't think he's all that good.

                              2. I then transitioned to his brother Peyton and said he'll get in because of his ridiculous regular season stats and finally getting the one Super Bowl.

                              3. Apparently you weren't capable of deducing the difference so you lumped it all together like I intentionally contradicted myself. All of which points directly to your complete lack of reading comprehension. You didn't do very well on your SAT, ACT did you?

                              LMFAO!

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                                Homotron said:

                                I know it's hard for you to grasp so I'll break it down.

                                1. Eli was mentioned as a "maybe" and I suggested that he likely isn't unless he adds a few more Super Bowls. I really don't think he's all that good.

                                2. I then transitioned to his brother Peyton and said he'll get in because of his ridiculous regular season stats and finally getting the one Super Bowl.

                                3. Apparently you weren't capable of deducing the difference so you lumped it all together like I intentionally contradicted myself. All of which points directly to your complete lack of reading comprehension. You didn't do very well on your SAT, ACT did you?

                                LMFAO!

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                                @erie-dawg said:

                                LMFAO!

                                And now he'll troll obnoxiously because he knows he looks like a moron. I love this game. Sooooo I'll post something you can chase it with LMAO or similar. How long do you want to keep this up? I can check back to the thread periodically. We'll bolster your post count. You can practice your laugh acronyms.

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                                  @erie-dawg said:

                                  LMFAO!

                                  And now he'll troll obnoxiously because he knows he looks like a moron. I love this game. Sooooo I'll post something you can chase it with LMAO or similar. How long do you want to keep this up? I can check back to the thread periodically. We'll bolster your post count. You can practice your laugh acronyms.

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                                  Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  Homotron said:

                                  And now he'll troll obnoxiously because he knows he looks like a moron. I love this game. Sooooo I'll post something you can chase it with LMAO or similar. How long do you want to keep this up? I can check back to the thread periodically. We'll bolster your post count. You can practice your laugh acronyms.

                                  Yeah something like that.......

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                                    The last overall #1 draft pick to have become a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame was Troy Aikman taken by the Cowboys in 1989. Since then, here is the list of the #1 overall draft selectees:

                                    1990 Jeff George

                                    1991 Russell Maryland

                                    1992 Steve Emtman

                                    1993 Drew Bledsoe

                                    1994 Dan Wilkinson

                                    1995 Ki-Jana Carter

                                    1996 Keyshawn Johnson

                                    1997 Orlando Pace

                                    1998 Peyton Manning

                                    1999 Tim Couch

                                    2000 Courtney Brown

                                    2001 Michael Vick

                                    2002 David Carr

                                    2003 Carson Palmer

                                    2004 Eli Manning

                                    2005 Alex Smith

                                    2006 Mario Williams

                                    2007 Jamarcus Russell

                                    2008 Jack Long

                                    2009 Matthew Stafford

                                    Who among these are potential Hall of Famers? I see perhaps two right now.

                                    2010 Sam Bradford

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    The last overall #1 draft pick to have become a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame was Troy Aikman taken by the Cowboys in 1989. Since then, here is the list of the #1 overall draft selectees:

                                    1990 Jeff George

                                    1991 Russell Maryland

                                    1992 Steve Emtman

                                    1993 Drew Bledsoe

                                    1994 Dan Wilkinson

                                    1995 Ki-Jana Carter

                                    1996 Keyshawn Johnson

                                    1997 Orlando Pace

                                    1998 Peyton Manning

                                    1999 Tim Couch

                                    2000 Courtney Brown

                                    2001 Michael Vick

                                    2002 David Carr

                                    2003 Carson Palmer

                                    2004 Eli Manning

                                    2005 Alex Smith

                                    2006 Mario Williams

                                    2007 Jamarcus Russell

                                    2008 Jack Long

                                    2009 Matthew Stafford

                                    Who among these are potential Hall of Famers? I see perhaps two right now.

                                    2010 Sam Bradford

                                    This shows you haw the "experts" ovverate and what their measure is of great.

                                    1990) george: great arm no heart

                                    1991) maryland: decent but you expect more

                                    1992) Entemen: injury plauged

                                    1993) Bledsoe: all arm, never could read defenses well

                                    1994) Wilkenson: no motivation a total bust

                                    1995) kijana carter: injury pron1996: Keyshawn Johnson Mr. me thought he was twice as good as reality

                                    1997) Orlando pace: solid player sometimes a top player

                                    1998) peyton manning, sure wish he was thwere in 1999 HOF career

                                    1999) Couch: clark decide to make a guy who NEVER HAD A COLLEGE PLAYBOOK his #1 pick at QB

                                    waited 5 years until it was painfully obvious the guy did not have a clue reading defenses.

                                    200) Cournet" looks like tarzan plays like Jane" Brown: Mr. Glass

                                    2001) mike Vick) did Atlanta a favor by screwing up as now they have a real QB

                                    2002) david carr: was highway wreckage fast

                                    2003) carson Palmer: never the same after he was kimo Van Olhoffened

                                    2004) Eli manning: the lesser manning has his moments

                                    2005) Alex smith: time has run out in SF

                                    2006) mario Williams: super mario plays well

                                    2007) Jemarcus Russel: Opie(Phil Savage) was so hot for this guy I thanked God the raiders were more stupid

                                    2008) Jake Long?

                                    2009) matt Stafford: mr glass get injured an awful lot

                                    2010) Bradford: A hit

                                    It absolutely killed the browns to whiff every year with the top pick, especially since we drafted so high.

                                    Coach and brown were horrible busts. Then Gerard warren and we bypass Thomlinson, and Winslow decides to play Evil Knevil,

                                    William druggie green, and Jeff injury faine, then braylon "oops" edwards..only Joe Thomss in the entire decade was any good.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      The last overall #1 draft pick to have become a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame was Troy Aikman taken by the Cowboys in 1989. Since then, here is the list of the #1 overall draft selectees:

                                      1990 Jeff George

                                      1991 Russell Maryland

                                      1992 Steve Emtman

                                      1993 Drew Bledsoe

                                      1994 Dan Wilkinson

                                      1995 Ki-Jana Carter

                                      1996 Keyshawn Johnson

                                      1997 Orlando Pace

                                      1998 Peyton Manning

                                      1999 Tim Couch

                                      2000 Courtney Brown

                                      2001 Michael Vick

                                      2002 David Carr

                                      2003 Carson Palmer

                                      2004 Eli Manning

                                      2005 Alex Smith

                                      2006 Mario Williams

                                      2007 Jamarcus Russell

                                      2008 Jack Long

                                      2009 Matthew Stafford

                                      Who among these are potential Hall of Famers? I see perhaps two right now.

                                      2010 Sam Bradford

                                      This shows you haw the "experts" ovverate and what their measure is of great.

                                      1990) george: great arm no heart

                                      1991) maryland: decent but you expect more

                                      1992) Entemen: injury plauged

                                      1993) Bledsoe: all arm, never could read defenses well

                                      1994) Wilkenson: no motivation a total bust

                                      1995) kijana carter: injury pron1996: Keyshawn Johnson Mr. me thought he was twice as good as reality

                                      1997) Orlando pace: solid player sometimes a top player

                                      1998) peyton manning, sure wish he was thwere in 1999 HOF career

                                      1999) Couch: clark decide to make a guy who NEVER HAD A COLLEGE PLAYBOOK his #1 pick at QB

                                      waited 5 years until it was painfully obvious the guy did not have a clue reading defenses.

                                      200) Cournet" looks like tarzan plays like Jane" Brown: Mr. Glass

                                      2001) mike Vick) did Atlanta a favor by screwing up as now they have a real QB

                                      2002) david carr: was highway wreckage fast

                                      2003) carson Palmer: never the same after he was kimo Van Olhoffened

                                      2004) Eli manning: the lesser manning has his moments

                                      2005) Alex smith: time has run out in SF

                                      2006) mario Williams: super mario plays well

                                      2007) Jemarcus Russel: Opie(Phil Savage) was so hot for this guy I thanked God the raiders were more stupid

                                      2008) Jake Long?

                                      2009) matt Stafford: mr glass get injured an awful lot

                                      2010) Bradford: A hit

                                      It absolutely killed the browns to whiff every year with the top pick, especially since we drafted so high.

                                      Coach and brown were horrible busts. Then Gerard warren and we bypass Thomlinson, and Winslow decides to play Evil Knevil,

                                      William druggie green, and Jeff injury faine, then braylon "oops" edwards..only Joe Thomss in the entire decade was any good.

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                                      @akronjoe said:

                                      This shows you haw the "experts" ovverate and what their measure is of great.

                                      1990) george: great arm no heart

                                      1991) maryland: decent but you expect more

                                      1992) Entemen: injury plauged

                                      1993) Bledsoe: all arm, never could read defenses well

                                      1994) Wilkenson: no motivation a total bust

                                      1995) kijana carter: injury pron1996: Keyshawn Johnson Mr. me thought he was twice as good as reality

                                      1997) Orlando pace: solid player sometimes a top player

                                      1998) peyton manning, sure wish he was thwere in 1999 HOF career

                                      1999) Couch: clark decide to make a guy who NEVER HAD A COLLEGE PLAYBOOK his #1 pick at QB

                                      waited 5 years until it was painfully obvious the guy did not have a clue reading defenses.

                                      200) Cournet" looks like tarzan plays like Jane" Brown: Mr. Glass

                                      2001) mike Vick) did Atlanta a favor by screwing up as now they have a real QB

                                      2002) david carr: was highway wreckage fast

                                      2003) carson Palmer: never the same after he was kimo Van Olhoffened

                                      2004) Eli manning: the lesser manning has his moments

                                      2005) Alex smith: time has run out in SF

                                      2006) mario Williams: super mario plays well

                                      2007) Jemarcus Russel: Opie(Phil Savage) was so hot for this guy I thanked God the raiders were more stupid

                                      2008) Jake Long?

                                      2009) matt Stafford: mr glass get injured an awful lot

                                      2010) Bradford: A hit

                                      It absolutely killed the browns to whiff every year with the top pick, especially since we drafted so high.

                                      Coach and brown were horrible busts. Then Gerard warren and we bypass Thomlinson, and Winslow decides to play Evil Knevil,

                                      William druggie green, and Jeff injury faine, then braylon "oops" edwards..only Joe Thomss in the entire decade was any good.

                                      I disagree with you on Couch. Couch actually did quite well for being the first player taken on what was a paper team.

                                      He took them from a paper team to a playoffs in what? 4 years. That is pretty good. And the team never, ever, never put any kind of offensive line in front of him. Had this guy had a Joe Thomas, Steinbach, and Alex Mack in front of him, players who could actually block, no telling how good he may have been. His record was 3-4 against the Steelers, and he led the team to the playoffs. No one else has been much better since. The downfall of his career were major shoulder injuries, not an inability to read defenses.

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                                        @akronjoe said:

                                        This shows you haw the "experts" ovverate and what their measure is of great.

                                        1990) george: great arm no heart

                                        1991) maryland: decent but you expect more

                                        1992) Entemen: injury plauged

                                        1993) Bledsoe: all arm, never could read defenses well

                                        1994) Wilkenson: no motivation a total bust

                                        1995) kijana carter: injury pron1996: Keyshawn Johnson Mr. me thought he was twice as good as reality

                                        1997) Orlando pace: solid player sometimes a top player

                                        1998) peyton manning, sure wish he was thwere in 1999 HOF career

                                        1999) Couch: clark decide to make a guy who NEVER HAD A COLLEGE PLAYBOOK his #1 pick at QB

                                        waited 5 years until it was painfully obvious the guy did not have a clue reading defenses.

                                        200) Cournet" looks like tarzan plays like Jane" Brown: Mr. Glass

                                        2001) mike Vick) did Atlanta a favor by screwing up as now they have a real QB

                                        2002) david carr: was highway wreckage fast

                                        2003) carson Palmer: never the same after he was kimo Van Olhoffened

                                        2004) Eli manning: the lesser manning has his moments

                                        2005) Alex smith: time has run out in SF

                                        2006) mario Williams: super mario plays well

                                        2007) Jemarcus Russel: Opie(Phil Savage) was so hot for this guy I thanked God the raiders were more stupid

                                        2008) Jake Long?

                                        2009) matt Stafford: mr glass get injured an awful lot

                                        2010) Bradford: A hit

                                        It absolutely killed the browns to whiff every year with the top pick, especially since we drafted so high.

                                        Coach and brown were horrible busts. Then Gerard warren and we bypass Thomlinson, and Winslow decides to play Evil Knevil,

                                        William druggie green, and Jeff injury faine, then braylon "oops" edwards..only Joe Thomss in the entire decade was any good.

                                        I disagree with you on Couch. Couch actually did quite well for being the first player taken on what was a paper team.

                                        He took them from a paper team to a playoffs in what? 4 years. That is pretty good. And the team never, ever, never put any kind of offensive line in front of him. Had this guy had a Joe Thomas, Steinbach, and Alex Mack in front of him, players who could actually block, no telling how good he may have been. His record was 3-4 against the Steelers, and he led the team to the playoffs. No one else has been much better since. The downfall of his career were major shoulder injuries, not an inability to read defenses.

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I disagree with you on Couch. Couch actually did quite well for being the first player taken on what was a paper team.

                                        He took them from a paper team to a playoffs in what? 4 years. That is pretty good. And the team never, ever, never put any kind of offensive line in front of him. Had this guy had a Joe Thomas, Steinbach, and Alex Mack in front of him, players who could actually block, no telling how good he may have been. His record was 3-4 against the Steelers, and he led the team to the playoffs. No one else has been much better since. The downfall of his career were major shoulder injuries, not an inability to read defenses

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                                        Completely agree on couch. He was rushed under center and had nothing around him. If they handled him better and put more of a offfense around him he'd still be the quarterback of the browns.

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                                          @akronjoe said:

                                          This shows you haw the "experts" ovverate and what their measure is of great.

                                          1990) george: great arm no heart

                                          1991) maryland: decent but you expect more

                                          1992) Entemen: injury plauged

                                          1993) Bledsoe: all arm, never could read defenses well

                                          1994) Wilkenson: no motivation a total bust

                                          1995) kijana carter: injury pron1996: Keyshawn Johnson Mr. me thought he was twice as good as reality

                                          1997) Orlando pace: solid player sometimes a top player

                                          1998) peyton manning, sure wish he was thwere in 1999 HOF career

                                          1999) Couch: clark decide to make a guy who NEVER HAD A COLLEGE PLAYBOOK his #1 pick at QB

                                          waited 5 years until it was painfully obvious the guy did not have a clue reading defenses.

                                          200) Cournet" looks like tarzan plays like Jane" Brown: Mr. Glass

                                          2001) mike Vick) did Atlanta a favor by screwing up as now they have a real QB

                                          2002) david carr: was highway wreckage fast

                                          2003) carson Palmer: never the same after he was kimo Van Olhoffened

                                          2004) Eli manning: the lesser manning has his moments

                                          2005) Alex smith: time has run out in SF

                                          2006) mario Williams: super mario plays well

                                          2007) Jemarcus Russel: Opie(Phil Savage) was so hot for this guy I thanked God the raiders were more stupid

                                          2008) Jake Long?

                                          2009) matt Stafford: mr glass get injured an awful lot

                                          2010) Bradford: A hit

                                          It absolutely killed the browns to whiff every year with the top pick, especially since we drafted so high.

                                          Coach and brown were horrible busts. Then Gerard warren and we bypass Thomlinson, and Winslow decides to play Evil Knevil,

                                          William druggie green, and Jeff injury faine, then braylon "oops" edwards..only Joe Thomss in the entire decade was any good.

                                          I disagree with you on Couch. Couch actually did quite well for being the first player taken on what was a paper team.

                                          He took them from a paper team to a playoffs in what? 4 years. That is pretty good. And the team never, ever, never put any kind of offensive line in front of him. Had this guy had a Joe Thomas, Steinbach, and Alex Mack in front of him, players who could actually block, no telling how good he may have been. His record was 3-4 against the Steelers, and he led the team to the playoffs. No one else has been much better since. The downfall of his career were major shoulder injuries, not an inability to read defenses.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          I disagree with you on Couch. Couch actually did quite well for being the first player taken on what was a paper team.

                                          He took them from a paper team to a playoffs in what? 4 years. That is pretty good. And the team never, ever, never put any kind of offensive line in front of him. Had this guy had a Joe Thomas, Steinbach, and Alex Mack in front of him, players who could actually block, no telling how good he may have been. His record was 3-4 against the Steelers, and he led the team to the playoffs. No one else has been much better since. The downfall of his career were major shoulder injuries, not an inability to read defenses

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                                          I agree the line in front of Couch stunk and I agree that is vital to a QB yet Couch could never string enough good games to ever be consistent.

                                          He could not read defenses and would go into brain lock with any blitz and eventually lost his job to weak armed but stronger minded kelly Holcomb.

                                          Couch was a failure yet with the horrid way we stocked talent around him I agree we will never know if he could have at least been decent.

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