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I can't believe Julio Jones isn't being considered for our first round pick

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  • P pizzadeliveryguy

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Jones ran a 4.39 at the combine, 4.48 for A.J. Green. If he wasn't in the discussion he will be now.

    If we take Jones at 6, then we might as well fire the whole FO and start over. Again.

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    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by CLEVELandMILIDH
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    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    If we take Jones at 6, then we might as well fire the whole FO and start over. Again.

    I agree, we need DL. DL will be the pick GUARANTEED. We won't pick a WR first 3 rounds. We were a run first offense that targeted the TE on passing downs, with the WCO the receivers will be the primary targets. Next year when Robo and MoMass have breakout season's you'll forget you ever wanted to draft Green

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      @pizzadeliveryguy said:

      If we take Jones at 6, then we might as well fire the whole FO and start over. Again.

      I agree, we need DL. DL will be the pick GUARANTEED. We won't pick a WR first 3 rounds. We were a run first offense that targeted the TE on passing downs, with the WCO the receivers will be the primary targets. Next year when Robo and MoMass have breakout season's you'll forget you ever wanted to draft Green

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      P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by pizzadeliveryguy
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      @clevelandmilidh said:

      I agree, we need DL. DL will be the pick GUARANTEED. We won't pick a WR first 3 rounds. We were a run first offense that targeted the TE on passing downs, with the WCO the receivers will be the primary targets. Next year when Robo and MoMass have breakout season's you'll forget you ever wanted to draft Green

      We targeted the TE because our WRs are horrible. The thought that Robo and Mass would make me forget about anyone , let alone Green is comical.

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        @clevelandmilidh said:

        I agree, we need DL. DL will be the pick GUARANTEED. We won't pick a WR first 3 rounds. We were a run first offense that targeted the TE on passing downs, with the WCO the receivers will be the primary targets. Next year when Robo and MoMass have breakout season's you'll forget you ever wanted to draft Green

        We targeted the TE because our WRs are horrible. The thought that Robo and Mass would make me forget about anyone , let alone Green is comical.

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        @pizzadeliveryguy said:

        We targeted the TE because our WRs are horrible. The thought that Robo and Mass would make me forget about anyone Green is comical.

        We target the TE because's that's what Mangini believed in. The primary focus on passing downs were TE's and RB's. That's a fact, you can go listen to interview's form Eric, Colt or Holmgren. This is the main reason Holmgren was frustrated with the offense.

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          @pizzadeliveryguy said:

          We targeted the TE because our WRs are horrible. The thought that Robo and Mass would make me forget about anyone Green is comical.

          We target the TE because's that's what Mangini believed in. The primary focus on passing downs were TE's and RB's. That's a fact, you can go listen to interview's form Eric, Colt or Holmgren. This is the main reason Holmgren was frustrated with the offense.

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          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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          @clevelandmilidh said:

          We target the TE because's that's what Mangini believed in. The primary focus on passing downs were TE's and RB's. That's a fact, you can go listen to interview's form Eric, Colt or Holmgren. This is the main reason Holmgren was frustrated with the offense.

          I agree. We still don't know whether or not our current WRs can do the job. All too often, solid players become lost in the wrong system. That's why we will get a much better picture of where we are this season (IF there is a season). The staff has been built from & for the same offensive & defensive systems. We may just have a diamond in the rough already here! We'll see.

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            @clevelandmilidh said:

            We target the TE because's that's what Mangini believed in. The primary focus on passing downs were TE's and RB's. That's a fact, you can go listen to interview's form Eric, Colt or Holmgren. This is the main reason Holmgren was frustrated with the offense.

            I agree. We still don't know whether or not our current WRs can do the job. All too often, solid players become lost in the wrong system. That's why we will get a much better picture of where we are this season (IF there is a season). The staff has been built from & for the same offensive & defensive systems. We may just have a diamond in the rough already here! We'll see.

            Mike

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            @canton-mike said:

            I agree. We still don't know whether or not our current WRs can do the job. All too often, solid players become lost in the wrong system. That's why we will get a much better picture of where we are this season (IF there is a season). The staff has been built from & for the same offensive & defensive systems. We may just have a diamond in the rough already here! We'll see.

            Mike

            While I suppose it is possible that Robo and MoMass could round into form (3rd year seems to be the magic year for WRs), you couldn't pass up Green if he luckily falls to 6 based on what those two have shown thus far.

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              @canton-mike said:

              I agree. We still don't know whether or not our current WRs can do the job. All too often, solid players become lost in the wrong system. That's why we will get a much better picture of where we are this season (IF there is a season). The staff has been built from & for the same offensive & defensive systems. We may just have a diamond in the rough already here! We'll see.

              Mike

              While I suppose it is possible that Robo and MoMass could round into form (3rd year seems to be the magic year for WRs), you couldn't pass up Green if he luckily falls to 6 based on what those two have shown thus far.

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              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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              @pizzadeliveryguy said:

              While I suppose it is possible that Robo and MoMass could round into form (3rd year seems to be the magic year for WRs), you couldn't pass up Green if he luckily falls to 6 based on what those two have shown thus far.

              I don't disagree with you, but we may (as Fans) get surprised come draft day because we aren't seeing what our FO & Coaching staff are seeing. What we see as an apparent need, they may not & what we see as an area of lesser need, they may see as a great need. Free agency may be a factor as well (depending on WHEN that happens). Time will tell.

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                Wouldn't it be something if AJ Green is at 6, and instead of Goodell saying the Cleveland Browns at no. 6 select AJ Green from Georgia, he says the Cleveland Browns at no 6 select Julio Jones from Alabama. It'd be funny. 😵

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                  Wouldn't it be something if AJ Green is at 6, and instead of Goodell saying the Cleveland Browns at no. 6 select AJ Green from Georgia, he says the Cleveland Browns at no 6 select Julio Jones from Alabama. It'd be funny. 😵

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                  @dawgpound3 said:

                  Wouldn't it be something if AJ Green is at 6, and instead of Goodell saying the Cleveland Browns at no. 6 select AJ Green from Georgia, he says the Cleveland Browns at no 6 select Julio Jones from Alabama. It'd be funny. 😵

                  My inside source said the Browns are locked in on JJ Watt

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                    @dawgpound3 said:

                    Wouldn't it be something if AJ Green is at 6, and instead of Goodell saying the Cleveland Browns at no. 6 select AJ Green from Georgia, he says the Cleveland Browns at no 6 select Julio Jones from Alabama. It'd be funny. 😵

                    My inside source said the Browns are locked in on JJ Watt

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                    @clevelandmilidh said:

                    My inside source said the Browns are locked in on JJ Watt

                    Yeah yeah.... your inside source. I smell Bullshit!

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                      @clevelandmilidh said:

                      My inside source said the Browns are locked in on JJ Watt

                      Yeah yeah.... your inside source. I smell Bullshit!

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                      @dawgpound3 said:

                      Yeah yeah.... your inside source. I smell Bullshit!

                      Your catching on!!

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                        N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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                        J.J. Watt is impressive and we've had good luck taking guys outta Wisconsion, but im not with taking him at #6 not with Peterson or Miller on the board id go with BPA over Need

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                          if the browns take a wr at #6, he has to be one with the complete package. from what i've heard, jones isn't consistent enough with catching the ball. if that's the case, i hope we pass on him that early in the draft.

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                            if the browns take a wr at #6, he has to be one with the complete package. from what i've heard, jones isn't consistent enough with catching the ball. if that's the case, i hope we pass on him that early in the draft.

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                            @sj_browns said:

                            if the browns take a wr at #6, he has to be one with the complete package. from what i've heard, jones isn't consistent enough with catching the ball. if that's the case, i hope we pass on him that early in the draft.

                            Julio fixed his catching problem last season. His coaches noticed that he was always looking to run before he caught the ball. Last year, he changed a lot. Became a heck of a lot more consistent with catching.

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                              @sj_browns said:

                              if the browns take a wr at #6, he has to be one with the complete package. from what i've heard, jones isn't consistent enough with catching the ball. if that's the case, i hope we pass on him that early in the draft.

                              Julio fixed his catching problem last season. His coaches noticed that he was always looking to run before he caught the ball. Last year, he changed a lot. Became a heck of a lot more consistent with catching.

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                              @dawgpound3 said:

                              Julio fixed his catching problem last season. His coaches noticed that he was always looking to run before he caught the ball. Last year, he changed a lot. Became a heck of a lot more consistent with catching.

                              Thats not true. Where did you get this?

                              We must not have been watching the same Alabama games. He's an average catcher at best, a great strider as opposed to a quick one, imo. He'd be a great pickup as a 13+ pick, definitely not at #6.

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                                @dawgpound3 said:

                                Julio fixed his catching problem last season. His coaches noticed that he was always looking to run before he caught the ball. Last year, he changed a lot. Became a heck of a lot more consistent with catching.

                                Thats not true. Where did you get this?

                                We must not have been watching the same Alabama games. He's an average catcher at best, a great strider as opposed to a quick one, imo. He'd be a great pickup as a 13+ pick, definitely not at #6.

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                                @secondwave said:

                                Thats not true. Where did you get this?

                                We must not have been watching the same Alabama games. He's an average catcher at best, a great strider as opposed to a quick one, imo. He'd be a great pickup as a 13+ pick, definitely not at #6.

                                If we want Julio Jones, then that's who we'll get but we have to get him before the rams do...

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                                  @clevelandmilidh said:

                                  My inside source said the Browns are locked in on JJ Watt

                                  Yeah yeah.... your inside source. I smell Bullshit!

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                                  TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                  @dawgpound3 said:

                                  Yeah yeah.... your inside source. I smell Bullshit!

                                  He was making fun of you dumbass.

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                                    bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by
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                                    For the guy who said sanz was not quick he posted the second fastest 3 cone drill and 3rd fastest 20 yard shuttle. While I agree he is not fast he is a quick shifty route runner. I'm not saying the browns should draft him but I think whoever gets him in the later rounds will get a heck of a football player.

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                                      @dawgpound3 said:

                                      Julio fixed his catching problem last season. His coaches noticed that he was always looking to run before he caught the ball. Last year, he changed a lot. Became a heck of a lot more consistent with catching.

                                      Thats not true. Where did you get this?

                                      We must not have been watching the same Alabama games. He's an average catcher at best, a great strider as opposed to a quick one, imo. He'd be a great pickup as a 13+ pick, definitely not at #6.

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                                      S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by
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                                      @secondwave said:

                                      Thats not true. Where did you get this?

                                      We must not have been watching the same Alabama games. He's an average catcher at best, a great strider as opposed to a quick one, imo. He'd be a great pickup as a 13+ pick, definitely not at #6.

                                      i keep hearing julio has catching issues. i don't think the browns would pick him at #6. at #6 the browns need an impact player and not some inconsistent wr.

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                                        I realize these are just combine stats, but he looks like a freak athlete and should climb many boards, and definitely fills that homerun hitter role Heckert mentioned. I would not be disappointed with him.

                                        I dont think his hands are anything to be overly concerned about, I believe he played the first half of the year (if not the whole year) with a hurt hand. The kid is a class act and great character. He may remind you of Braylon, but Julio loves the game and is a great character.

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                                          I orginally had him going 14 to the Rams but after his Combine workout i believe he will go #10 to the Redskins instead, and btw Sanzebacher ran 4.59 i believe

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