You Gotta Take Peterson at 6 If He Is There
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WRONG! You guys are switching to the 4-3 and have zero ends worthy of playing the 4-3. Gotta pick Nick Fairley or Da'Quan Bowers.
WRONG! You guys are switching to the 4-3 and have zero ends worthy of playing the 4-3. Gotta pick Nick Fairley or Da'Quan Bowers.
lmao, no one cares what you think.
Fairley has weight and character issues. Those are red-flags.
Bowers' injury kinda puts me off from him a bit, but even then, he's only had 1 great year in college.
And if you haven't displayed your lack of knowledge to Browns fans yet, you should know we're drafting #6. Those two are projected to be taken in the top 3.
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WRONG! You guys are switching to the 4-3 and have zero ends worthy of playing the 4-3. Gotta pick Nick Fairley or Da'Quan Bowers.
lmao, no one cares what you think.
Fairley has weight and character issues. Those are red-flags.
Bowers' injury kinda puts me off from him a bit, but even then, he's only had 1 great year in college.
And if you haven't displayed your lack of knowledge to Browns fans yet, you should know we're drafting #6. Those two are projected to be taken in the top 3.
lmao, no one cares what you think.
Fairley has weight and character issues. Those are red-flags.
Bowers' injury kinda puts me off from him a bit, but even then, he's only had 1 great year in college.
And if you haven't displayed your lack of knowledge to Browns fans yet, you should know we're drafting #6. Those two are projected to be taken in the top 3.
Thanks stupid
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No one has said what many a pundits have said that Peterson looks to be converted to Safety in the NFL. Much like Jenkins was from OSU for the Saints. Jenkins had a very good year this year and looks to be a very good FS in the NFL. I would draft Peterson at 6 as a safety and that is only if Fairley, Bowers, Darius and Green are all off the board by that time.
Dareus is severely overrated. I wouldn't go anywhere near him.
Fairley is ok but he'll be gone for sure by before the 3rd pick. Green, Bowers and Peterson should be the only 3 they should be looking at with the #6.
And it's been speculated, but that's all it is, speculation. Most of that speculation is that Peterson will move to safety later on in his career, a la Rod Woodson.
Dareus is severely overrated. I wouldn't go anywhere near him.
Fairley is ok but he'll be gone for sure by before the 3rd pick. Green, Bowers and Peterson should be the only 3 they should be looking at with the #6.
And it's been speculated, but that's all it is, speculation. Most of that speculation is that Peterson will move to safety later on in his career, a la Rod Woodson.
Correct....but nothing wrong with another Thom Darden in center field.
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It's not just unpopular- it's flat- out stupid. Sorry.
"We" have to take him? Sorry, "we" don't. Committing the cardinal sin of draftniks I see- falling in love with a player WAY too soon.
The Browns two most glaring weaknesses are a legit #1 WR, and a stud DL. A complimentary corner to Joe Hayden is WAY down on the needs. I'd even posit a stud RT is higher up on H&H's shopping list right now.
Let's see- two best corners in the league right now? Asomugah and Revis? Close enough? And Revis even had the not too shabby Cromartie opposite him. So where were they SB Sunday? Watching it on the tube, just like you and me. So quick just who are those super stud corners the Steelers and Packers have- I'll spot you the only guy (and he's at the downside of his career Woodson) you can even vaguely mention as a top shelf corner. The Giants beat the heavily favored Pats in the Super Bowl with who? at corner. Starting to get my drift? You can get by with AVERAGE CBs if your front seven is quite studly (just ask the Steelers and Giants).
Even if Peterson is the next Dion Sanders, he'll have less impact on the Browns success in 2011 than a TD scoring WR or a sack machine DL or LB. Why pass on a team when they rank 27th in the NFL in rush defense? Let's just run, and run some more on them.
I will absolutely guarantee you- if Green, Peterson, and a top shelf DL are all on the board when the Browns draft, there will be no way in HELL the Browns will take Peterson- even one or the other.
I understand that everyone has there opinions at this point and far be it from me to say your are stupid or wrong because they really are valid opinions, ones that I shared just a few short weeks ago, but this article basically points several things that Heckert is looking to do in the draft.
"If there's a really good one, you're not gonna pass on him," Heckert said. "So I think corner is just as good a possibility as anything. I go back to Philadel phia, where we had Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor, two Pro Bowl corners. We drafted Lito [sheppard] and Sheldon [brown] one, two in the same draft. I wouldn't have any problem with that. I mean you've got to have three corners."
So Heckert WILL take Peterson if he is available at 6 it is something along the lines that he has done before.
Heckert said the Browns are set at right, tackle with Tony Pashos, who went on injured reserve Oct. 20 with an ankle injury."We like Tony, we really do," Heckert said. "I thought Tony played really, really well before he got hurt. Tony's our starter."
We are more set at RT than alot of people think. This was something that I have been trying to point out all offseason but alot of people just would listen. Pashos is a good starter at RT and we will more than likely either draft a RT in the mid to late rounds to train to eventually take over in a season or two or sign a younger guy with so upside or another proven veteran. It is also possible that they train Lauvou to learn RT along with his LG spot, he has the smarts to do it and we also still have Womack who actually plays better at RT than at RG.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Your points debunked"If there's a really good one, you're not gonna pass on him," Heckert said. "So I think corner is just as good a possibility as anything. I go back to Philadel phia, where we had Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor, two Pro Bowl corners. We drafted Lito [sheppard] and Sheldon [brown] one, two in the same draft. I wouldn't have any problem with that. I mean you've got to have three corners."
Heckert said the Browns are set at right, tackle with Tony Pashos, who went on injured reserve Oct. 20 with an ankle injury."We like Tony, we really do," Heckert said. "I thought Tony played really, really well before he got hurt. Tony's our starter."
I'll have to say first off, if the Browns DO wind up drafting Peterson, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
But I'll have to agree with Rebs- the pre-draft posturing has already begun. What's Heckert going to say? "Nope, no way we're drafting Peterson @6."? If Peterson is there when we draft, that's a mighty nice bargaining chip- say move down mid first round, grab Julio Jones, and have two second rounders to go for DL help.
As to being "set" @ RT, yeah- Pashos is fine IF healthy- which he hasn't been the last few years. Is that a trend, or an aberration? The Steelers draft O-Line about every year, it's time to get with the program.
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Thats excatly the way i see it as well if Peterson is there with the 6th pick then, i could see us using it as leverage towards another team who needs a great CB....The scenario i could best think of would be the trading places with the Lions at 13 because they need a stud corner and nethier Prince nor Peterson will be there when they pick....We use the 13th pick on Jones before St.Louis can grab him at 14 and pick up additonal draft picks...
Or i could see Heckert taking him and paring him with Joe Haden, like in Philly when he had to Pro bowl Corners...
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If Peterson is there at 6 you have to take him. Not only is he a shut down corner but he can do kick off and punt returns as well. This then would allows Cribbs to either concentrate on being a WR. Or, we can look into trading him to fill another position needed such as a DB, DL, RT, or Safety. I know this will not be a popular idea with most people since most fans consider him to be a scared cow on the Browns team.
If Peterson is there at 6 you have to take him. Not only is he a shut down corner but he can do kick off and punt returns as well. This then would allows Cribbs to either concentrate on being a WR. Or, we can look into trading him to fill another position needed such as a DB, DL, RT, or Safety. I know this will not be a popular idea with most people since most fans consider him to be a scared cow on the Browns team.
That is great a shutdown and NO OFFENSE.................just what we need to lose 6-0
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I find it funny that during this time of the year people forget there's such a thing as free agency.
Jesus Christ guys, it's BPA over need. That should always be the case.
If Peterson falls to us at 6, we have to take him. He'll clearly be the best player available. Then we can do as we please, either keep him or trade him for some picks or guys of need. Whatever the case, Heckert will make a better decision than those on this board bitching and moaning about Peterson and how we don't "need" him.
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We should trade back twice and take a center.
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I agree with alot of people saying we dont need him and alot of people saying we do, ethier way im perfectly happy having Joe Haden and Patrick Peterson as my two Corners for years to come, We really need this FA to begin so we can try to start adding more peices and deciding who would be the best option at #6
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I agree with alot of people saying we dont need him and alot of people saying we do, ethier way im perfectly happy having Joe Haden and Patrick Peterson as my two Corners for years to come, We really need this FA to begin so we can try to start adding more peices and deciding who would be the best option at #6
I agree with alot of people saying we dont need him and alot of people saying we do, ethier way im perfectly happy having Joe Haden and Patrick Peterson as my two Corners for years to come, We really need this FA to begin so we can try to start adding more peices and deciding who would be the best option at #6
Off topic, but one part of the labor agreement is having the free agency BEFORE the draft. I actually think it's a good idea, but a lot of NFL vets don't like it.
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I agree with alot of people saying we dont need him and alot of people saying we do, ethier way im perfectly happy having Joe Haden and Patrick Peterson as my two Corners for years to come, We really need this FA to begin so we can try to start adding more peices and deciding who would be the best option at #6
Off topic, but one part of the labor agreement is having the free agency BEFORE the draft. I actually think it's a good idea, but a lot of NFL vets don't like it.
Off topic, but one part of the labor agreement is having the free agency BEFORE the draft. I actually think it's a good idea, but a lot of NFL vets don't like it.
Yeah i also heard that was gonna be a part of the new deal, which i wouldnt mind ethier you could sign and find players you need prior to the draft and then fill the needs you dont have
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To those suggesting the switch to safety heres an article about it
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WRONG! You guys are switching to the 4-3 and have zero ends worthy of playing the 4-3. Gotta pick Nick Fairley or Da'Quan Bowers.
WRONG! You guys are switching to the 4-3 and have zero ends worthy of playing the 4-3. Gotta pick Nick Fairley or Da'Quan Bowers.
I thought Fairley was supposed to be a DT, not a DE?
In terms of whether or not the Browns have DE worth of playing the 4-3, the Browns think that Robaire Smith may be able to play there, plus they have a few other no name people listed as DE, but you are right, a DE will be important to acquire, as would a DT.
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You know, I wasn’t a huge fan of taking another top 10 CB. I’m still not sure I think it’s a good idea to take another top 10 CB when we have so many other holes to fill.
However, if Peterson is as good as advertised, I would get really excited about having him and Haden on the edges, with Ward and Brown at safety.
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You know, I wasn’t a huge fan of taking another top 10 CB. I’m still not sure I think it’s a good idea to take another top 10 CB when we have so many other holes to fill.
However, if Peterson is as good as advertised, I would get really excited about having him and Haden on the edges, with Ward and Brown at safety.
You know, I wasn’t a huge fan of taking another top 10 CB. I’m still not sure I think it’s a good idea to take another top 10 CB when we have so many other holes to fill.
However, if Peterson is as good as advertised, I would get really excited about having him and Haden on the edges, with Ward and Brown at safety.
hard to argue adding a sure thing to your roster.
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I think he will still be there because of the huge stigma aobut drafting corners too high. The two best players in this draft are clearly Peterson/Green and now probably Jones as the next best guy, but now 4 of the 5 teams ahead of us have a need a corner, but they also have bigger problems in other area's and would think twice about picking a CB that high. Same with Green who now is only likely to go ahead of us if Cinci picks him which probably won't happen. Hell jones will fall to the middle of the first round just because of his position.
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I think he will still be there because of the huge stigma aobut drafting corners too high. The two best players in this draft are clearly Peterson/Green and now probably Jones as the next best guy, but now 4 of the 5 teams ahead of us have a need a corner, but they also have bigger problems in other area's and would think twice about picking a CB that high. Same with Green who now is only likely to go ahead of us if Cinci picks him which probably won't happen. Hell jones will fall to the middle of the first round just because of his position.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
I think he will still be there because of the huge stigma aobut drafting corners too high. The two best players in this draft are clearly Peterson/Green and now probably Jones as the next best guy, but now 4 of the 5 teams ahead of us have a need a corner, but they also have bigger problems in other area's and would think twice about picking a CB that high. Same with Green who now is only likely to go ahead of us if Cinci picks him which probably won't happen. Hell jones will fall to the middle of the first round just because of his position.
No one is scared to take Peterson he may be the number one player taken in this draft, everyone knows hes a sure thing and theres no way he falls to the browns, he'd be lucky to make it to Arizona and they'd take him
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I didn't say anyone would be scared to take him, I said they won't because of his position. CB do not get drafted too high and I don't even think one has ever been taken in the top 3. CB and WR tend to fall back past the 1st 3 picks most of the time, most of the time going from the 5th pick and after. Ya he is about as much of a sure thing as you can get and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to one of the first 5 teams, but I also think there is just as good of a chance that he falls to us.
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